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This is what is going to happen if BTC doesn't moon soon.

https://twitter.com/DailyLoud/status/1597426588031021057?s=20&t=SUraH6d6SeuWMz3NsIV-RA

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Two emotional amateurs, one is obviously a bitch, attacking her opponent from behind.
You can't go much lower than that, so looks more like BCH vs. BSV to me  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


I am always amazed by looking at those nebulae...thinking about how all that gas gets converted to igniting stars, which then (if they are too massive), end up as a supernova, which makes "metals", which then gets to be incorporated into solids, like our planet (around another star), carbon, nitrogen and oxygen (although those are produced during 'regular" nucleosynthesis and supernovae simply spread them around in an explosion) into our bodies..etc, etc.

I most always have to think about that old song by Moby ("we are all made of stars") when i edit the astro stuff.
Two days left until i get the cooled camera, but no clear skies in sight so far. January should fix this.
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The famous twitter "crypto" guru Pomp used to shill lies about blockFi. What kind of idiot one has to be to trust such crooks with their savings? I guess too many. I don't know if we already hit the bottom but until the market is cleansed from such trash, there is no reason to expect some wild bull run. So I keep DCAing but won't risk any extreme investment. At least not yet.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1597371512570675205

Just to clarify.. it appears that the fund raise was around March 2021.

https://techcrunch.com/2021/03/11/blockfi-lands-a-350m-series-d-at-3b-valuation-for-its-fast-growing-crypto-lending-platform/

Of course, some of the projects were more scammy than others - and I get the sense that some of them were trying to run legitimate businesses - including being backed by assets, following proper procedures with customer funds (including proper disclosures), and surely some of them ended up getting involved (and maybe even overly involved) in relations with businesses in which either they did not engage in adequate due diligence and/or maybe sometimes some of these places got greedy by the yield and presumed that the other businesses were legit (and again perhaps back to due diligence and maybe even employing logic to figure out from where the supposed "yield" would be coming from). 

So yeah.. I will agree that it can become problematic for some of the sponsoring or venture capital and then if they might also be somewhat O.k. with shitcoins, then it becomes a slippery slope. when starting to put out adverts too.

Pomp does frequently assert that he is bitcoin ONLY.. but then his actions seem to defy that.. maybe not as much as some of the shitcoiner guests that he will have on his podcast..

the FTX guys should be locked up.. but they are not .. instead you and some of the other folks here worried about CZ blah blah blah.. we don't have that kind of evidence on CZ.. .. so too premature.. and better to stay focused on what we know and locking up the FTX criminals instead of losing focus.
Why is it always an either or?
Whats wrong with doing both?

I did not mean to create the impression that I am supporting CZ.. but just proclaiming that there are levels of scamminess... and there are levels of evidence that we might have about what is going on in terms of any potentially bad actor... so historically, I have felt that I had to stand up for tether and USDT.. even though surely there may be some problems with them, but they were not anywhere even close to as bankrupt as UST (terra/luna)..

Also people used to beat up on Arthur Hays.. and Hays is a different character than someone like SBF.. so I am largely trying to avoid painting all the potential problematic areas with the same brush.. and I think that I had at least highlighted several of my distinction areas, but I don't necessarily want to go into some kind of a long tirade of proclaiming how wonderful CZ is.. but people suggesting that it was unfair that CZ was attacking poor widdo SBF (FTX) or that CZ was making baseless allegations about Brian Armstrong.. which those allegations were not baseless.. and CZ backed off of some aspect... even though we should be wondering about what Brian is up to sometimes too..

So I am not all or nothing.. even though some of my ways of making proclamations and criticisms seems to have differing leanings from you.

I find blanket assertions that CZ is evil or CZ is just like SBF to be quite contrary to the facts, even though some assertions about parallel practices are surely fair to make.

I have hardly any sympathy for SBF, even if he might have been a front guy.. but there is clearly strong evidence of intentional misuse of customer funds and even lying to customers and to investors and the creation of that fake token to appear that there was value/assets.. and it the evidence is becoming somewhat more and more clear that SBF's/FTX's accounting practices were so lacking that they likely were criminal for the mere fact that they did not exist or the evidence may have also been destroyed.. including that either he or someone within his chain of command had been involved in some of the hacks that may have also been designed to destroy evidence (sure we do not have complete evidence on those matters yet.. but it is developing in that direction). ..
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This is what is going to happen if BTC doesn't moon soon.

https://twitter.com/DailyLoud/status/1597426588031021057?s=20&t=SUraH6d6SeuWMz3NsIV-RA

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I will never understand why people immediately film with a smartphone instead of helping.

For the children in the reastaurant, this fight is hopefully a reason why they will never eat in this "restaurant" again.
people hope the video will go viral and their account (the first to share the video) will be famous and get money from endorsement (pathetic)
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The famous twitter "crypto" guru Pomp used to shill lies about blockFi. What kind of idiot one has to be to trust such crooks with their savings? I guess too many. I don't know if we already hit the bottom but until the market is cleansed from such trash, there is no reason to expect some wild bull run. So I keep DCAing but won't risk any extreme investment. At least not yet.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1597371512570675205

fake smile and mental illness eyes... just how I like my gurus...


https://twitter.com/anilsaidso/status/1597371512570675205

BANG BANG!

Pomp really has a conundrum on his hands...  He either got out of BlockFi, in which case he will likely end up in some very nasty court cases.  Or, he lost the "biggest investment he had ever made".

Seems BANG BANG = LOSE LOSE.

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You people seen this ? Cheesy

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Then again, I also wondered whether causing an exchange like FTX to collapse could also backfire in many regards concerning his own exchange. People withdrawing assets en masse, massive push for harsh regulation, also massive push for innovation in the DEX space etc.
I doubt that CZ caused FTX to collapse, and it is a good thing that FTX did collapse, since it was quite apparent that they did not have assets to back up their bullshit token, or whatever else they were using to look like assets when they were stealing customers funds and otherwise gambling with customer funds.  

Fuck FTX and any attempt to blame CZ for their collapse.. that's bullshit.  FTX caused its own collapse, and it should not have gotten that BIG in the first place.  

Regarding whether Binance is solvent, sell your BNB and withdraw all your funds.  Let's see what happens.  

Guess what?  Probably nothing is going to happen, since Binance likely was not doing anything even close to as shady as what FTX, SBF and other FTX stooges/criminals were doing.. and still I have not heard of any of the FTX folks getting arrested yet.. even though the evidence is pretty damned clear that they were stealing customer funds... on a broad level, not even just some reasonable amount .. like 30%.. it was way higher stealing levels than that... or do you want to say that they just borrowed the customer money so they could trade with it or buy houses for SBF's parents?  or whatever other secret bullshit they were doing with the money that we have not even heard about yet?
Your response seems to be insinuating some wrong things as to what I meant with my post. Wink

I have no intention to mischaracterize anything that you said.. so if you believe that you need to clarify, add or subtract.. then that's up to you.

Absolutely, fuck FTX! I am all for scammy and shady companies to collapse. Actually, this is why I already posted this and on top of that I recommend an absolutely hilarious video where you can see SBF talking such an amazing bullshit that I would probably have withdrawn my funds the day that video came out if I had been an FTX customer. I urge everyone to watch that video, and maybe sharing this treasure with you is worth a merit, but only when it made you shake your head and laugh of course! Cheesy It is beyond ridiculous how SBF is recklessly talking himself into trouble in a conversation with a finance professional.

Sure.  Nothing wrong with those links and the underlying information - and a lot of those kinds of ridiculousnesses have been coming out in the past few weeks - and even highlighting some of the earlier red flag signs, too.

Regarding the reason for the collapse, that is of course the pure insolvency SBF is responsible for, but CZ got the domino game going. He kicked it off so to say. This is not to say that I blame CZ for FTX to collapse. In fact, CZ did the right thing but the intention might not have been as altruistic as one might believe here. Many sources state that SBF and CZ are sort of enemies, like a bit more than just competitors. They had their Twitter fights and so on. What I meant to say with my post is that I asked myself whether CZ, as emotional as his move might have been, was fully aware of a potential push on al fronts that he can't really like given the opaque corporate structure of Binance. Also, people withdrawing money from all exchanges, including Binance, is probably not something he really welcomed.

Yes.. you had already said some of that.... and we likely still need to be careful in terms of drawing too many inferences or trying to go too far with some of the information that has been available, or is coming out or even new connections that are being seen.

Another interesting fact is that CZ was one of the seed investors into FTX.. and that was part of the reason why CZ was holding so much FTT.. and yeah, CZ's serving as a seed investor into FTX does not necessarily mean that CZ was benevolent.. but it does suggest that CZ was not as hostile to FTX or to SBF as people were making him out to be.. and surely, we can even go by CZ's tweets to acknowledge that CZ admitted that the collapse of FTX was way quicker than even he could have imagined.. but still we can also take some of those representations with grains of salt (even though there are archives that show those kinds of tweets)... so to a large extent, I would still be concerned about drawing too much from any narrow sets of facts, and facts are still developing.. so each of us needs to figure out how much we are going to buy into various spins and the extent to which our own strategies might be affected by information that is coming out or being clarified based on our new assessment of the situation.

I personally believe that Binance is solvent, but I would not naively believe that it is the case 100%. Binance is operational and that is all that counts because if CZ were forced to prove that everything is sufficiently backed, he would actually have to present a report with proofs of all the sources and that in turn would give insight into this opaque network of globally distributed banks and companies holding Binance's assets.
of course he is not going to do that.. unless he is forced to do it.. and even then.. no one really reveals all of their cards (and they usually are not forced to do so, unless they are being tortured. and even then they might not tell everything).

So @JayJuanGee, I guess we are on the same page here. Wink

Sure.. we might be in the same chapter.. or even in the same ballpark, so I doubt that I was ever accusing you of being a looney.. hahahaha.. but at the same time, I would expect that guys (and gal) here should have varying perspectives, and varying ways of presenting or emphasizing information and various information that they might see (or experiences that they might have) that will contribute towards their seeing some of the information differently, even if directionally it is similar it still might not be exactly the same when various emphases are different.
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The price is drifting upward now and the reality is setting in what just happened to FTX users. For some reason looking at the market now makes me feel like we’ve seen the bottom for the year. I’m feeling a bit regretful that I didn’t scoop up any BTC when it was in the $15Ks but still think this is a great entry price. With each passing day it feels like the worst is behind us and the start of a new cycle is here.
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