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April 20, 2023, 07:36:22 PM

Expected correction after a pretty incredible surge from $16,000 which was not really that long ago. Let’s hope we don’t go too much lower so we can consolidate and get pump hard into the end of Q2.

It’s the first correction we’ve had in a little bit, but it only wiped off a little over a week’s worth of gains. No reason to worry if it sticks around $28K for a while. It was expected to be choppy around $30K as the bulls reload for another moon shot to bring us back to around the $40K level, which I assume will be breached by the end of the year.
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April 20, 2023, 07:47:36 PM

Straight after the SpaceX launch. Obviously a dig at Musk.



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Says the guy who's been helping make laws for 140 years.
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April 20, 2023, 08:18:54 PM

The MiCA regulation in Europa has passed the votes. It will take effect in 2024.

https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2023/04/20/eu-parliament-approves-crypto-licensing-funds-transfer-rules/

anybody knows if this affects non-custodial wallets and (private) onchain transfers?

You can continue to do what you want. As soon as you use an official money transmitter, you have to do KYC from  a transfer sum of €1000.
That is the status today. So what will the future bring?  Roll Eyes
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happy 420 gentlebeings!

Starship launch attempt #2       t-minus 30m
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1wcilQ58hI

Thanks for posting, I would have missed it otherwise. It went pretty well.

I wish I could go watch one of these larger rockets take off. I'd have to travel a long way for that though so in the meantime I'll settle with my Estes.

Estes have starship as a flying model?
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April 20, 2023, 08:38:54 PM

I don't  buy the whole anti-Gensler sentiment...
He certainly knows his stuff.  His MIT lectures "Blockchain and money" are among the best on the topic out there.

MIT 15.S12 Blockchain and Money, Fall 2018 MIT OpenCourseWare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH6vE97qIP4&list=PLUl4u3cNGP63UUkfL0onkxF6MYgVa04Fn


I tend to think Gensler is good for Bitcoin and bad for shitcoins...

There is a quite reasonable explanation why he wasn't answering the mEth questions in the hearing straightly.
That is, his agency is probably building a case against mEth.

SEC Coming For Your Crypto (Ethereum)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldcRstRjMqQ

You think he will stop at shitcoins...that's laughable.
Maybe a few people here should read the "First they came" poem by M. Niemoller...
...it's quite relevant despite a multitude of the opposite opinions on this forum.
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April 20, 2023, 09:27:13 PM

Expected correction after a pretty incredible surge from $16,000 which was not really that long ago. Let’s hope we don’t go too much lower so we can consolidate and get pump hard into the end of Q2.

It’s the first correction we’ve had in a little bit, but it only wiped off a little over a week’s worth of gains. No reason to worry if it sticks around $28K for a while. It was expected to be choppy around $30K as the bulls reload for another moon shot to bring us back to around the $40K level, which I assume will be breached by the end of the year.

Not to conservative

By may/June perhaps?
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April 20, 2023, 10:07:35 PM

The MiCA regulation in Europa has passed the votes. It will take effect in 2024.

https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2023/04/20/eu-parliament-approves-crypto-licensing-funds-transfer-rules/

anybody knows if this affects non-custodial wallets and (private) onchain transfers?

You can continue to do what you want. As soon as you use an official money transmitter, you have to do KYC from  a transfer sum of €1000.
That is the status today. So what will the future bring?  Roll Eyes

I'm pretty sure the EUSSR will want to lay hand on non-custodial wallets at some point in the future...

Was just curious if they already went for it...  Roll Eyes
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I don't  buy the whole anti-Gensler sentiment...
He certainly knows his stuff.  His MIT lectures "Blockchain and money" are among the best on the topic out there.

MIT 15.S12 Blockchain and Money, Fall 2018 MIT OpenCourseWare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH6vE97qIP4&list=PLUl4u3cNGP63UUkfL0onkxF6MYgVa04Fn


I tend to think Gensler is good for Bitcoin and bad for shitcoins...

There is a quite reasonable explanation why he wasn't answering the mEth questions in the hearing straightly.
That is, his agency is probably building a case against mEth.

SEC Coming For Your Crypto (Ethereum)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldcRstRjMqQ

You think he will stop at shitcoins...that's laughable.


mmh actually, that's not what I said.

Again, here is my quote: "I tend to think Gensler is good for Bitcoin and bad for shitcoins"
(I mean him, not the people behind him, or anyone else ...as it is now):

He knows very well the technical an monetary differences between Bitcoin and shitcoins.  I think you know how important that knowledge is in order to understand Bitcoins's decentralization, purity and the value thereof.  (check out his MIT lectures and you will see how deep his understanding is)

He has already declared Bitcoin a non-security. Which is good for Bitcoin.

When asked about different shitcoins, he always refers to the Howey-Test.  And it's obvious that almost any shitcoin will pass that test.
In result that is bad for these shitcoins



Maybe a few people here should read the "First they came" poem by M. Niemoller...
...it's quite relevant despite a multitude of the opposite opinions on this forum.

I learned it in high school, decades ago.  It was good life advice for me.


As I understand it, you try to draw a connection between Niemöller's saying and this Bitcoin/shitcoin/Gensler talk, no?

I might get you wrong, but do you wanna imply that Bitcoiners should speak out in favor of shitcoins, like mEth, in order to avoid being the next on the list who the state is coming for ?

If yes, primarily prepare for JJG's batslap  Grin  and secondarily I think it's a not so accurate comparison:

The Nazis came for their opponents...
but most shitcoins like mEth are no opponent for the fiat system, because they support exactly the same power structure, (power of the rich) by POS, pre-mine etc.

And.. if Bitcoin is seen as an enemy, it will be so, no matter if shitcoins exist or not.  It's not the same animal.

Also the Nazis came to put humans into camps or to kill them...
imo inadequate to compare that to regulators who come for illegal securities scams and try to get them registered in a way that any other non-scammy product has to take


However, anyone feel free to vocally support shitcoins in order to save Bitcoin from the state..
But I think that logic is flawed.
It makes only sense, if you are a shitcoiner and don't get the difference between Bitcoin and shitcoins... but even Gensler gets it, what brings me back to my OP



Edit:
You think he will stop at shitcoins...that's laughable.

maybe I got your writing wrong idk...

I think as for now Gensler stopped at shitcoins, because Bitcoin is no security.  And that is good for BTC.  
I don't know how he will act in the future.. maybe he will get pressured by "someone" to attack BTC as well... who knows ... I'll be watching Wink



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#Bitcoin is everything there is divided by 21 Million.



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