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Fucking conspiracy theorists.

Some dude i came to slowly build personal relations with over a couple of years now, and this is a rare type of event in my life, actively texted me today about chemtrails.
I was like "R U SERIOUS?!". I had these visual, clear words in my mind: "the show must go on. Always...".
After re-texting a few dozen lines of debunkenings and solid reasonings against various absolutely insane sub-theories and statements, i came to a conclusion:

There goes a friendship candidate.

Years wasted.

Go to Start (as in "Monopoly", the game)


I mean, i wouldn't agree to ban Telegram, WhatsApp and the likes, but these message groups avalanche in mobile social media clearly goes over the top of most peoples heads.
Still i got no WhatsApp, i am not in a single messaging group in other messenger apps, of which i only use one .more or less regularly.


Or, it was just a publicity stunt, it's hard to say.

Easy to tell: A rise to $1m would be like from 3% to 100%, based on the price level when the bet was made. Think of it, at least 33-fold gain within 90 days.
This bet almost totally can't be serious. And that "almost" means there's a damn small probability that it is serious. Insanity might be a point, too.

don't be to hard on him. at least he is not a flat earthler. or worse, an altcoiner
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April 14, 2023, 11:27:24 PM
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Fucking conspiracy theorists.

Some dude i came to slowly build personal relations with over a couple of years now, and this is a rare type of event in my life, actively texted me today about chemtrails.
I was like "R U SERIOUS?!". I had these visual, clear words in my mind: "the show must go on. Always...".
After re-texting a few dozen lines of debunkenings and solid reasonings against various absolutely insane sub-theories and statements, i came to a conclusion:

There goes a friendship candidate.

Years wasted.

Go to Start (as in "Monopoly", the game)


I mean, i wouldn't agree to ban Telegram, WhatsApp and the likes, but these message groups avalanche in mobile social media clearly goes over the top of most peoples heads.
Still i got no WhatsApp, i am not in a single messaging group in other messenger apps, of which i only use one .more or less regularly.


Or, it was just a publicity stunt, it's hard to say.

Easy to tell: A rise to $1m would be like from 3% to 100%, based on the price level when the bet was made. Think of it, at least 33-fold gain within 90 days.
This bet almost totally can't be serious. And that "almost" means there's a damn small probability that it is serious. Insanity might be a point, too.

don't be to hard on him. at least he is not a flat earthler. or worse, an altcoiner

 Yeah... and it's not like he went all stabby on you like Bob Lee's friend.
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 Spanish hodler emerges after 500 days in cave


 She began her hibernation on Nov. 20, 2021 — just as Bitcoin fell below $60k in a second failed mooning attempt that year.

 She emerged into the light of spring in southern Spain on Friday wearing dark glasses, carrying her cold wallet and smiling broadly. She was greeted by a phalanx of cameras and her support team who, wearing masks, encircled her in a hug.

She described her experience as "excellent, unbeatable," and said that time had flown by.

"When they came in to get me, I was asleep. I thought something had happened. I said: 'Moon already? Surely not.' I hadn't finished my ramen."
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April 14, 2023, 11:50:52 PM
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Fucking conspiracy theorists.

Some dude i came to slowly build personal relations with over a couple of years now, and this is a rare type of event in my life, actively texted me today about chemtrails.
I was like "R U SERIOUS?!". I had these visual, clear words in my mind: "the show must go on. Always...".
After re-texting a few dozen lines of debunkenings and solid reasonings against various absolutely insane sub-theories and statements, i came to a conclusion:

There goes a friendship candidate.

Years wasted.

Go to Start (as in "Monopoly", the game)


I mean, i wouldn't agree to ban Telegram, WhatsApp and the likes, but these message groups avalanche in mobile social media clearly goes over the top of most peoples heads.
Still i got no WhatsApp, i am not in a single messaging group in other messenger apps, of which i only use one .more or less regularly.

Well man , i think you can give him a opportunitty if he its not an idiot hardcore about any shit conspiracy. If its only one and in a soft way..... you know everyone can have mistakes in some areas.

About the other point , yes the shit spam in groups of no matter what aplication are really shit, for that most of the "serious" groups ended with "only administrator can write message" because a lot of idiots keep saying shit or spamming like retards and they dont check any information or fact.


About theories, and i think i said it before, i really think if we are gonna a multipolar order again, the BTC can be favored by that world. Why?, because we can have a currency in one side and another in the other side (CBDC) and the BTC can be the currecy of change between this "two worlds".

Because you cant use the CBDC of china/rusia in occident and you cant use usd CBDC in "orient" so.... you need to exchange if you wanna buy something in the "other side", and here comes the BTC, i dont know if this its gonna happen ina  black market or in a normal one, but i think this really can happen.
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April 15, 2023, 12:16:12 AM

They move from chem trails to moon landing conspiracies...its just insane and impossible to have a sane discussion with them.

They refuse to listen to facts and use due diligence to do a fact check and just fall back on layers of logical fallacies.

I've dealt with a few and have just given up and cut ties and wish I had done it sooner and not wasted my time in the first place.



TLDR: I agree get way quick there is no hope for them when they start evangelizing.
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They move from chem trails to moon landing conspiracies...its just insane and impossible to have a sane discussion with them.

They refuse to listen to facts and use due diligence to do a fact check and just fall back on layers of logical fallacies.

I've dealt with a few and have just given up and cut ties and wish I had done it sooner and not wasted my time in the first place.



TLDR: I agree get way quick there is no hope for them when they start evangelizing.

 Or quoting lines from Monty Python.
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Fucking conspiracy theorists.

Some dude i came to slowly build personal relations with over a couple of years now, and this is a rare type of event in my life, actively texted me today about chemtrails.
I was like "R U SERIOUS?!". I had these visual, clear words in my mind: "the show must go on. Always...".
After re-texting a few dozen lines of debunkenings and solid reasonings against various absolutely insane sub-theories and statements, i came to a conclusion:

There goes a friendship candidate.

Years wasted.

Go to Start (as in "Monopoly", the game)


I mean, i wouldn't agree to ban Telegram, WhatsApp and the likes, but these message groups avalanche in mobile social media clearly goes over the top of most peoples heads.
Still i got no WhatsApp, i am not in a single messaging group in other messenger apps, of which i only use one .more or less regularly.


I mean no offence here, but your attitude is juvenile. Who cares if your friend believes in chem trails or other obvious crazy conspiracy theories. Is he hurting anyone by believing in that? People believe in all sorts of sh1t, and so what, I bet you even believe in things others disagree with. Perhaps even some of your existing friends and family. And why try to debunk his crap? If someone thougt chocolate ice cream was the best but you thought vanilla ice cream was the best would you argue with them about that then cut them out of your life when you couldn’t convince them.

Seriously, cutting people off because their thinking doesn't align with yours is exactly why the world is so god damn divided these days. Whatever happened to agree to disagree then continue on with things that you both agree.

I actually have a friend who believes in more than just chem trails, he also believes in a flat earth, fake moon landing, mystical energy sources, and other crap. Yeah, I think he is crazy, but he is a nice guy and I enjoy his company. In fact, being that he is open to others ideas he is now also a bitcoiner. I have other acquaintances who are ardent no coiners and they are very unaccepting of others and other ideas.
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April 15, 2023, 01:13:22 AM

They move from chem trails to moon landing conspiracies...its just insane and impossible to have a sane discussion with them.

They refuse to listen to facts and use due diligence to do a fact check and just fall back on layers of logical fallacies.

I've dealt with a few and have just given up and cut ties and wish I had done it sooner and not wasted my time in the first place.



TLDR: I agree get way quick there is no hope for them when they start evangelizing.

 Or quoting lines from Monty Python.


I do not see conspiracies for 1000 here. Smiley




I mean no offence here, but your attitude is juvenile. Who cares if your friend believes in chem trails or other obvious crazy conspiracy theories. Is he hurting anyone by believing in that?

Believing and pushing onto others are two distinctly different things.
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April 15, 2023, 01:40:37 AM
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Fucking conspiracy theorists.

Some dude i came to slowly build personal relations with over a couple of years now, and this is a rare type of event in my life, actively texted me today about chemtrails.
I was like "R U SERIOUS?!". I had these visual, clear words in my mind: "the show must go on. Always...".
After re-texting a few dozen lines of debunkenings and solid reasonings against various absolutely insane sub-theories and statements, i came to a conclusion:

There goes a friendship candidate.

Years wasted.

Go to Start (as in "Monopoly", the game)


I mean, i wouldn't agree to ban Telegram, WhatsApp and the likes, but these message groups avalanche in mobile social media clearly goes over the top of most peoples heads.
Still i got no WhatsApp, i am not in a single messaging group in other messenger apps, of which i only use one .more or less regularly.


I mean no offence here, but your attitude is juvenile. Who cares if your friend believes in chem trails or other obvious crazy conspiracy theories. Is he hurting anyone by believing in that? People believe in all sorts of sh1t, and so what, I bet you even believe in things others disagree with. Perhaps even some of your existing friends and family. And why try to debunk his crap? If someone thougt chocolate ice cream was the best but you thought vanilla ice cream was the best would you argue with them about that then cut them out of your life when you couldn’t convince them.

Seriously, cutting people off because their thinking doesn't align with yours is exactly why the world is so god damn divided these days. Whatever happened to agree to disagree then continue on with things that you both agree.

I actually have a friend who believes in more than just chem trails, he also believes in a flat earth, fake moon landing, mystical energy sources, and other crap. Yeah, I think he is crazy, but he is a nice guy and I enjoy his company. In fact, being that he is open to others ideas he is now also a bitcoiner. I have other acquaintances who are ardent no coiners and they are very unaccepting of others and other ideas.


My partner believes in flat earth 🌏
My partner believes in chem trails
My partner believes in fake moon landing

As for mystical energy sources we both believe in that. Since they are mystical they don’t define well and are easy to believe in.

Most likely I am able to be his friend because we both believe in solar.
He has a solar company.
We like mining gear.

Also having had a complete psychotic break and seeing a lot of unreal shit I can honestly tell you
The universe can do whatever the fuck it wants in fact it does so I don’t sweat the small stuff.
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They move from chem trails to moon landing conspiracies...its just insane and impossible to have a sane discussion with them.

They refuse to listen to facts and use due diligence to do a fact check and just fall back on layers of logical fallacies.

I've dealt with a few and have just given up and cut ties and wish I had done it sooner and not wasted my time in the first place.



TLDR: I agree get way quick there is no hope for them when they start evangelizing.

 Or quoting lines from Monty Python.


I do not see conspiracies for 1000 here. Smiley




I mean no offence here, but your attitude is juvenile. Who cares if your friend believes in chem trails or other obvious crazy conspiracy theories. Is he hurting anyone by believing in that?

Believing and pushing onto others are two distinctly different things.

 I don't care if someone talks conspiracies but if I hear one "Ni!", I'm outta there; there's something seriously wrong with those people.
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Fucking conspiracy theorists.

Some dude i came to slowly build personal relations with over a couple of years now, and this is a rare type of event in my life, actively texted me today about chemtrails.
I was like "R U SERIOUS?!". I had these visual, clear words in my mind: "the show must go on. Always...".
After re-texting a few dozen lines of debunkenings and solid reasonings against various absolutely insane sub-theories and statements, i came to a conclusion:

There goes a friendship candidate.

Years wasted.

Go to Start (as in "Monopoly", the game)


I mean, i wouldn't agree to ban Telegram, WhatsApp and the likes, but these message groups avalanche in mobile social media clearly goes over the top of most peoples heads.
Still i got no WhatsApp, i am not in a single messaging group in other messenger apps, of which i only use one .more or less regularly.


I mean no offence here, but your attitude is juvenile. Who cares if your friend believes in chem trails or other obvious crazy conspiracy theories. Is he hurting anyone by believing in that? People believe in all sorts of sh1t, and so what, I bet you even believe in things others disagree with. Perhaps even some of your existing friends and family. And why try to debunk his crap? If someone thougt chocolate ice cream was the best but you thought vanilla ice cream was the best would you argue with them about that then cut them out of your life when you couldn’t convince them.

Seriously, cutting people off because their thinking doesn't align with yours is exactly why the world is so god damn divided these days. Whatever happened to agree to disagree then continue on with things that you both agree.

I actually have a friend who believes in more than just chem trails, he also believes in a flat earth, fake moon landing, mystical energy sources, and other crap. Yeah, I think he is crazy, but he is a nice guy and I enjoy his company. In fact, being that he is open to others ideas he is now also a bitcoiner. I have other acquaintances who are ardent no coiners and they are very unaccepting of others and other ideas.


My partner believes in flat earth 🌏
My partner believes in chem trails
My partner believes in fake moon landing

As for mystical energy sources we both believe in that. Since they are mystical they don’t define well and are easy to believe in.

Most likely I am able to be his friend because we both believe in solar.
He has a solar company.
We like mining gear.

Also having had a complete psychotic break and seeing a lot of unreal shit I can honestly tell you
The universe can do whatever the fuck it wants in fact it does so I don’t sweat the small stuff.

So you have a common cauuse that you are working towards but don't agree with everything. My god man! How do you do it.
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They move from chem trails to moon landing conspiracies...its just insane and impossible to have a sane discussion with them.

They refuse to listen to facts and use due diligence to do a fact check and just fall back on layers of logical fallacies.

I've dealt with a few and have just given up and cut ties and wish I had done it sooner and not wasted my time in the first place.



TLDR: I agree get way quick there is no hope for them when they start evangelizing.

 Or quoting lines from Monty Python.


I do not see conspiracies for 1000 here. Smiley




I mean no offence here, but your attitude is juvenile. Who cares if your friend believes in chem trails or other obvious crazy conspiracy theories. Is he hurting anyone by believing in that?

Believing and pushing onto others are two distinctly different things.

 I don't care if someone talks conspiracies but if I hear one "Ni!", I'm outta there; there's something seriously wrong with those people.


How do you feel about "Peng" and "Neee-Wom"?
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They move from chem trails to moon landing conspiracies...its just insane and impossible to have a sane discussion with them.

They refuse to listen to facts and use due diligence to do a fact check and just fall back on layers of logical fallacies.

I've dealt with a few and have just given up and cut ties and wish I had done it sooner and not wasted my time in the first place.



TLDR: I agree get way quick there is no hope for them when they start evangelizing.

 Or quoting lines from Monty Python.


I do not see conspiracies for 1000 here. Smiley




I mean no offence here, but your attitude is juvenile. Who cares if your friend believes in chem trails or other obvious crazy conspiracy theories. Is he hurting anyone by believing in that?

Believing and pushing onto others are two distinctly different things.

 I don't care if someone talks conspiracies but if I hear one "Ni!", I'm outta there; there's something seriously wrong with those people.


How do you feel about "Peng" and "Neee-Wom"?

 First I've heard of them... as I said, I'm outta there at "Ni!"  Wink
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Fucking conspiracy theorists.

Some dude i came to slowly build personal relations with over a couple of years now, and this is a rare type of event in my life, actively texted me today about chemtrails.
I was like "R U SERIOUS?!". I had these visual, clear words in my mind: "the show must go on. Always...".
After re-texting a few dozen lines of debunkenings and solid reasonings against various absolutely insane sub-theories and statements, i came to a conclusion:

There goes a friendship candidate.

Years wasted.

Go to Start (as in "Monopoly", the game)


I mean, i wouldn't agree to ban Telegram, WhatsApp and the likes, but these message groups avalanche in mobile social media clearly goes over the top of most peoples heads.
Still i got no WhatsApp, i am not in a single messaging group in other messenger apps, of which i only use one .more or less regularly.


I mean no offence here, but your attitude is juvenile. Who cares if your friend believes in chem trails or other obvious crazy conspiracy theories. Is he hurting anyone by believing in that? People believe in all sorts of sh1t, and so what, I bet you even believe in things others disagree with. Perhaps even some of your existing friends and family. And why try to debunk his crap? If someone thougt chocolate ice cream was the best but you thought vanilla ice cream was the best would you argue with them about that then cut them out of your life when you couldn’t convince them.

Seriously, cutting people off because their thinking doesn't align with yours is exactly why the world is so god damn divided these days. Whatever happened to agree to disagree then continue on with things that you both agree.

I actually have a friend who believes in more than just chem trails, he also believes in a flat earth, fake moon landing, mystical energy sources, and other crap. Yeah, I think he is crazy, but he is a nice guy and I enjoy his company. In fact, being that he is open to others ideas he is now also a bitcoiner. I have other acquaintances who are ardent no coiners and they are very unaccepting of others and other ideas.


My partner believes in flat earth 🌏
My partner believes in chem trails
My partner believes in fake moon landing

As for mystical energy sources we both believe in that. Since they are mystical they don’t define well and are easy to believe in.

Most likely I am able to be his friend because we both believe in solar.
He has a solar company.
We like mining gear.

Also having had a complete psychotic break and seeing a lot of unreal shit I can honestly tell you
The universe can do whatever the fuck it wants in fact it does so I don’t sweat the small stuff.

 OMG!  "My Partner Believes..." sounds like the next song title for @sirazimuth.  Obviously, he'll have to collaborate/share the royalties with you @philipma1957.
 By the way @sirazimuth - "This World is Ours" is my favourite of the songs you have shared with us.  Good stuff!

 edit: Okay, "Wild and Free" has it beat but I was thinking of the acoustic songs.
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April 15, 2023, 02:21:27 AM

Fucking conspiracy theorists.

Some dude i came to slowly build personal relations with over a couple of years now, and this is a rare type of event in my life, actively texted me today about chemtrails.
I was like "R U SERIOUS?!". I had these visual, clear words in my mind: "the show must go on. Always...".
After re-texting a few dozen lines of debunkenings and solid reasonings against various absolutely insane sub-theories and statements, i came to a conclusion:

There goes a friendship candidate.

Years wasted.

Go to Start (as in "Monopoly", the game)


I mean, i wouldn't agree to ban Telegram, WhatsApp and the likes, but these message groups avalanche in mobile social media clearly goes over the top of most peoples heads.
Still i got no WhatsApp, i am not in a single messaging group in other messenger apps, of which i only use one .more or less regularly.


I mean no offence here, but your attitude is juvenile. Who cares if your friend believes in chem trails or other obvious crazy conspiracy theories. Is he hurting anyone by believing in that? People believe in all sorts of sh1t, and so what, I bet you even believe in things others disagree with. Perhaps even some of your existing friends and family. And why try to debunk his crap? If someone thougt chocolate ice cream was the best but you thought vanilla ice cream was the best would you argue with them about that then cut them out of your life when you couldn’t convince them.

Seriously, cutting people off because their thinking doesn't align with yours is exactly why the world is so god damn divided these days. Whatever happened to agree to disagree then continue on with things that you both agree.

I actually have a friend who believes in more than just chem trails, he also believes in a flat earth, fake moon landing, mystical energy sources, and other crap. Yeah, I think he is crazy, but he is a nice guy and I enjoy his company. In fact, being that he is open to others ideas he is now also a bitcoiner. I have other acquaintances who are ardent no coiners and they are very unaccepting of others and other ideas.


My partner believes in flat earth 🌏
My partner believes in chem trails
My partner believes in fake moon landing

As for mystical energy sources we both believe in that. Since they are mystical they don’t define well and are easy to believe in.

Most likely I am able to be his friend because we both believe in solar.
He has a solar company.
We like mining gear.

Also having had a complete psychotic break and seeing a lot of unreal shit I can honestly tell you
The universe can do whatever the fuck it wants in fact it does so I don’t sweat the small stuff.

So you have a common cauuse that you are working towards but don't agree with everything. My god man! How do you do it.

Like I said if you saw some of the shit I have seen from 1979 to 1985 you would know there is more to the picture than meets the eye.

But I am a deep endless universe/multiverse guy so the flat earth one is the hardest one for me to keep the peace on.
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amazing couple of high speed minutes...and this intro shot over the waves...if i had not seen it with mine own eye i would think it cgi

turn the volume up and watch the fire sprite dance


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