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hmmm...PACW is down 9%, PNC is down 6%, a whole bunch is down 2-4%.
PACW is relatively tiny with deposits at 41b, but PNC has/had 436 bil as per last earnings 16 days ago, don't know right now.
I dunno what to make of all?
Cramer and J. Dimon say that it is OK now. Wink

The official reason for the purchase was to protect the industry and restore trust. How is the purchase of a bankrupt bank going to restore trust in the system? They are covering a dead guy with a blanket and saying it's all right, we'll take care of it, he's not dead, he's taking a nap!


my read is that he is buying stuff with a huge discount and by doing so helping his own balance sheet; no wonder that PNC, which did not get the "goods", is declining 6% today.

I am not sure how it all relates to bitcoin.
I listened to a long P. mcCormick/Jeff Booth podcast ( https://www.whatbitcoindid.com/podcast/why-deflation-is-the-key-to-abundance ) and they were saying that even in nations with 100% yearly inflation, most of the populace still stays in the system and only a small % choose bitcoin.

Blame it on inertia, on being uninformed, etc., but it is a sad truth for now.

nowadays not many people have savings and if they have some they just don't want to gamble with it. investing in whatever is like gambling for most people.
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hmmm...PACW is down 9%, PNC is down 6%, a whole bunch is down 2-4%.
PACW is relatively tiny with deposits at 41b, but PNC has/had 436 bil as per last earnings 16 days ago, don't know right now.
I dunno what to make of all?
Cramer and J. Dimon say that it is OK now. Wink

The official reason for the purchase was to protect the industry and restore trust. How is the purchase of a bankrupt bank going to restore trust in the system? They are covering a dead guy with a blanket and saying it's all right, we'll take care of it, he's not dead, he's taking a nap!
my read is that he is buying stuff with a huge discount and by doing so helping his own balance sheet; no wonder that PNC, which did not get the "goods", is declining 6% today.

I am not sure how it all relates to bitcoin.
I listened to a long P. mcCormick/Jeff Booth podcast ( https://www.whatbitcoindid.com/podcast/why-deflation-is-the-key-to-abundance ) and they were saying that even in nations with 100% yearly inflation, most of the populace still stays in the system and only a small % choose bitcoin.

Blame it on inertia, on being uninformed, etc., but it is a sad truth for now.
nowadays not many people have savings and if they have some they just don't want to gamble with it. investing in whatever is like gambling for most people.

You (vroom) are likely NOT wrong about the factual assertion of which a large number of normies fail/refuse to adequately save and/or invest; however, the fact that normies fail/refuse to invest does not logically lead to a conclusion that they are either conservative or disinclined to gamble with whatever level of savings/investments that they end up making.

It seems to me that we can make reasonable inferences that normies tend to gamble a lot, and even the incentives of our current debt-laden (and inflation-laden) system contributes towards inclinations to gamble rather than to save (especially when there are ideas that dollars do not hold their value and even questions about whether there might be some other places that value can be placed in order to soundly store value)... hence part of the rationale as to why the vast majority of normies who even have any investments would be through equity that they might have in their residential property and/or perhaps 401ks to the extent to which they might have had employment that had offered such packages - since many employers do not even have pensions anymore, as they more frequently had pension plans 20-50 years ago... there are still some employees with pension plans, but maybe those are almost ONLY government workers and some BIGGER companies who had not gone down the rug-pulling road - in terms of either offering those kinds of pension benefits or running those pension benefits to the ground... and perhaps not even the fault of the companies to have had to end up not preserving the financial solvency of their pension plans...

the whole system incentivizes gambling.. which is part of it's flaws that bitcoin likely helps to fix since the incentives in bitcoin are seemingly way more solid.. at least so far.. and at least as long as none of us are mixing up bitcoin and speculating that bitcoin and "crypto" is the same because if we devolve into thinking that bitcoin and crypto is the same gambling paradise kind of a thing, then we likely end up losing the plot and falling back into not being able to see how bitcoin offers better incentives than our current falling apart system that has been snowballingly rolling into higher and higher levels of catastrophes-waiting to happen... just a matter of which ones next... which personally I don't have many joys in witnessing those ongoing catastrophes except for realizing that some of us have seen bitcoin as part of the rescue boat path .. and surely more and more normies are likely becoming more and more aware of bitcoin as a possible rescue path as long as they do not fuck up too much by trying to treat bitcoin in the same kind of gambling ways or even to overly jump into it.. without trying to make sure that they can survive in both worlds, so long as they can still be aggressive into bitcoin.. but careful not to become overly aggressive.. and to be able to recognize the difference between being aggressive and overly aggressive.. for the good of their lil selfies... present company included.  Wink
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Indeed, it is very good for the sport that mostly seemed to have featured British dinosaurs recently and needed something fresh quite badly.
It might change things quite a bit like what happened after Raymond van Barneveld's first major win in darts.

But to be fair, if anyone of those British dinosaurs deserves another win, it probably IS Mark Selby. A very worthy runner up.
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here are some guesses for next rate adjustment

https://www.cnet.com/personal-finance/banking/should-you-expect-another-fed-rate-hike-wednesday-5-experts-share-their-predictions/#:~:text=The%20next%20Federal%20Open%20Market,first%20time%20since%20March%202022.

Some say a pause some say .25%

personally its close to a shift.

But I think shift is sept.

at best  this will be a 0.0

I think we are better off with + 0.25%

and one or 2 more banks dropping out.
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I listened to a long P. mcCormick/Jeff Booth podcast ( https://www.whatbitcoindid.com/podcast/why-deflation-is-the-key-to-abundance ) and they were saying that even in nations with 100% yearly inflation, most of the populace still stays in the system and only a small % choose bitcoin.

Blame it on inertia, on being uninformed, etc., but it is a sad truth for now.
I watch them from time to time alongside Blockware, Swan and Simply bitcoin. Basically all the channels that are about bitcoin and finances, but not much about shitcoins.
The older generation still thinks bank is the safest place for your money and if you have to buy something it better be real estate because otherwise it's going to disappear.

nowadays not many people have savings and if they have some they just don't want to gamble with it. investing in whatever is like gambling for most people.

My parents have quite large savings but they don't understand investing and inflation. They lose 10% a year but don't notice it. If you made them buy bitcoin they'd be panicking over every 5% move down and telling me to sell it.

personally its close to a shift.

But I think shift is sept.

Maybe 0 in September and back to printing in December? I feel like the whole world knows they're going to shift and they're trying to make them wait as log as possible without crashing stocks in the process.
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hmmm...PACW is down 9%, PNC is down 6%, a whole bunch is down 2-4%.
PACW is relatively tiny with deposits at 41b, but PNC has/had 436 bil as per last earnings 16 days ago, don't know right now.
I dunno what to make of all?
Cramer and J. Dimon say that it is OK now. Wink

The official reason for the purchase was to protect the industry and restore trust. How is the purchase of a bankrupt bank going to restore trust in the system? They are covering a dead guy with a blanket and saying it's all right, we'll take care of it, he's not dead, he's taking a nap!


my read is that he is buying stuff with a huge discount and by doing so helping his own balance sheet; no wonder that PNC, which did not get the "goods", is declining 6% today.

I am not sure how it all relates to bitcoin.
I listened to a long P. mcCormick/Jeff Booth podcast ( https://www.whatbitcoindid.com/podcast/why-deflation-is-the-key-to-abundance ) and they were saying that even in nations with 100% yearly inflation, most of the populace still stays in the system and only a small % choose bitcoin.
Blame it on inertia, on being uninformed, etc., but it is a sad truth for now.

nowadays not many people have savings and if they have some they just don't want to gamble with it. investing in whatever is like gambling for most people.


I got it, but I am reconsidering even to have more than a current month expense in the bank.
You get 0% there and in a money market almost 5%.
I am sure that after I would post this, some money market would get off parity and money would flow backwards into the "safe" banks.
In fact, I penciled this scenario for sometime in the next 6-8 mo as banks cannot tolerate losing deposits to Treasury direct and money markets for too long.

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here are some guesses for next rate adjustment

https://www.cnet.com/personal-finance/banking/should-you-expect-another-fed-rate-hike-wednesday-5-experts-share-their-predictions/#:~:text=The%20next%20Federal%20Open%20Market,first%20time%20since%20March%202022.

Some say a pause some say .25%

personally its close to a shift.

But I think shift is sept.

at best  this will be a 0.0

I think we are better off with + 0.25%

and one or 2 more banks dropping out.

Fake Zelensky who talked to Lagarde also talked to Powell

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More interesting was Powell's admission, thinking he was speaking with Zelensky, during the call (which reportedly took place in January) that the Fed would hike rates two more times

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/two-more-hikes-powell-makes-stunning-admissions-during-prank-call-fake-zelensky
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here are some guesses for next rate adjustment

https://www.cnet.com/personal-finance/banking/should-you-expect-another-fed-rate-hike-wednesday-5-experts-share-their-predictions/#:~:text=The%20next%20Federal%20Open%20Market,first%20time%20since%20March%202022.

Some say a pause some say .25%

personally its close to a shift.

But I think shift is sept.

at best  this will be a 0.0

I think we are better off with + 0.25%

and one or 2 more banks dropping out.

Fake Zelensky who talked to Lagarde also talked to Powell

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More interesting was Powell's admission, thinking he was speaking with Zelensky, during the call (which reportedly took place in January) that the Fed would hike rates two more times

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/two-more-hikes-powell-makes-stunning-admissions-during-prank-call-fake-zelensky

WELL they make it a guessing game. But I can't see 3 or 4 or 5 jumps bringing us to 6 or 6.5%.

So it is going to give soon.


May 2 to 3.
June 13 to 14.
July 25 to 26.
September 19 to 20.
October 31 to November 1.


0/25/25/0/drop50

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25/25/0/drop25/drop25

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