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[ChartBuddy]

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[Searing]

IMHO..most people if they get $$$ back in FTX will leave it in btc/or whatever..IMHO..back when only big boys wanted interest on their tokens...cowardice paid in my case

i myself only HODL...I have friends on bitcointalk and the real world i tell them when I sell so they can buy on no risk in that I'm always wrong or the risk of me having

no kneecaps..because when I sell it is always (really) a buy time for btc/crypto

they started to buy whatever I sold on me whining about it as a joke then a group joke..now it is no joke

and they are likely 11 out of 12 in the profits over the last 12 years or so

thus I just HODL now....I have no skillz...occasionally I will taunt them that I want to sell some btc to freak them out a little

but that is pretty much it now

canary in the gold mine I am (skilz!)

by the by the above is in NO WAY an exaggeration..I can provide references on bitcointalk...some may chime in here.....as I look at my 1 BTC Kirby Vacuum cleaner from

November I think was of 2017 worth now today $115,400...tough to vacuum or so my excuse for not...

I remember and specifically sold 1 BTC for the beast..better then a buddy who sold 90 btc for a sports car he says he will die with and probably bury with himself.

damn/ouch/owie....

brad

[philipma1957]

I think the most coins I ever had was 17 in 2013.

Spending 90 for a car must really hurt.

[Hottiek]

IMHO..most people if they get $$$ back in FTX will leave it in btc/or whatever..IMHO..back when only big boys wanted interest on their tokens...cowardice paid in my case

i myself only HODL...I have friends on bitcointalk and the real world i tell them when I sell so they can buy on no risk in that I'm always wrong or the risk of me having

no kneecaps..because when I sell it is always (really) a buy time for btc/crypto

they started to buy whatever I sold on me whining about it as a joke then a group joke..now it is no joke

and they are likely 11 out of 12 in the profits over the last 12 years or so

thus I just HODL now....I have no skillz...occasionally I will taunt them that I want to sell some btc to freak them out a little

but that is pretty much it now

canary in the gold mine I am (skilz!)

by the by the above is in NO WAY an exaggeration..I can provide references on bitcointalk...some may chime in here.....as I look at my 1 BTC Kirby Vacuum cleaner from

November I think was of 2017 worth now today $115,400...tough to vacuum or so my excuse for not...

I remember and specifically sold 1 BTC for the beast..better then a buddy who sold 90 btc for a sports car he says he will die with and probably bury with himself.

damn/ouch/owie....

brad

 I have some alpaca socks and a BTC hoodie that's worth more than my house (relatively). So many wasted at Satoshi Dice. I bet I lost a small fortune learning I sucked at poker. All of it doesn't matter, as it was thanks to Gavin's faucet.
 Sending that first MO to Florida, wondering if it was a scam, only to get an email with a private key!!! We thought we knew back then... But we think we know now... and it's not over in the least!!! This time I am going to pad myself for the "other part" we don't like to talk about... As I deserve to shave a bit off (even better if it happens to be at the topish) But yeah, I will watch. Whatever happens with extreme excitement
 Also I have been thinking about using timing sales rather than dollar amount sales if and when I ladder out. I appreciate the advice of those here making me look at how I may or may not be making plans. But still taking out anything substantial seems to just end up being a bad idea as my .63ish will continue to gain real value.
Not a bad place to be either way
K

[Searing]

yeah....I don't really bring it up

I have another guy who said he had too many toys in the garage as such...he pointed to his wife's bike....was like 1 or 2 btc..from back when...and said it was the most

expensive thing in the garage

as far as I know it is the first and only and likely ever time such an argument could be won by and old HODL'er

but yeah...I have issues with the Kirby Vacuum at 1 btc back when...i also have issues with price of btc jan 2018 and price in dec 2018 going down 70% or some such

after I retired with the btc/crypto as such....bout pissed myself hodl'ing thru that (did dump 13 btc was not gonna un-retire..got back 5 btc still down 8 btc or so grrrr from

the hoard grrrr...after that dump i was more or less immune through that horror....so HODL'ing became easy...

I have also found since 2013 till even now..that of the 90% or more on the forum here and FB that come in and out of btc/crypto and maybe in the real world

so most people crack at about $50,000 or so when it is 'real $$$'.....a guy in the summer of 2013 cashed out as a millionaire mainly due to family

and wife i think it was on bfl chat (butterfly labs chat) when btc was like July 1st, 2013 like $69 a coin.....

I hope he got back into btc along that timeline or invested the 1 million to show something out of all that at least

but as a kinda 'guess' from my past readings on here and elsewhere about $50k

I had a week at probably around $50k when all my friends and family figured out and had an honest ambush intervention like I was a moonie or in Amway
 
that was one uncomfortable hour before i ran out....and the same week my mom called me up crying that I looked like a schmuck to everyone

i put my btc/crypto in a trust and don't touch it....friends/family/god daughters etc

now they call me up btc/crypto up/down all up in the air....mostly when down..and i say 'this is what you get for trusting your inheritance to me who is obviously clueless..not

my problem..not my money..in the trust...at least i keep a few people up at night

in order to be good at HODL'ing btc/crypto you have to 'despise' $$$ a little bit or you crack under the pressure...so that was my mental trickery to HODL

just tossed it in a trust for when i die My lifestyle in no way suffers....still have expertise as boring...and be stealthy with my 2012 Ford Fusion SEL with only $32.K of miles

on it

anyway...how I coped with it

ps. i type as fast as i think so don't sweat my lengthy posts..

brad

[Searing]

IMHO..most people if they get $$$ back in FTX will leave it in btc/or whatever..IMHO..back when only big boys wanted interest on their tokens...cowardice paid in my case

i myself only HODL...I have friends on bitcointalk and the real world i tell them when I sell so they can buy on no risk in that I'm always wrong or the risk of me having

no kneecaps..because when I sell it is always (really) a buy time for btc/crypto

they started to buy whatever I sold on me whining about it as a joke then a group joke..now it is no joke

and they are likely 11 out of 12 in the profits over the last 12 years or so

thus I just HODL now....I have no skillz...occasionally I will taunt them that I want to sell some btc to freak them out a little

but that is pretty much it now

canary in the gold mine I am (skilz!)

by the by the above is in NO WAY an exaggeration..I can provide references on bitcointalk...some may chime in here.....as I look at my 1 BTC Kirby Vacuum cleaner from

November I think was of 2017 worth now today $115,400...tough to vacuum or so my excuse for not...

I remember and specifically sold 1 BTC for the beast..better then a buddy who sold 90 btc for a sports car he says he will die with and probably bury with himself.

damn/ouch/owie....

brad

 I have some alpaca socks and a BTC hoodie that's worth more than my house (relatively). So many wasted at Satoshi Dice. I bet I lost a small fortune learning I sucked at poker. All of it doesn't matter, as it was thanks to Gavin's faucet.
 Sending that first MO to Florida, wondering if it was a scam, only to get an email with a private key!!! We thought we knew back then... But we think we know now... and it's not over in the least!!! This time I am going to pad myself for the "other part" we don't like to talk about... As I deserve to shave a bit off (even better if it happens to be at the topish) But yeah, I will watch. Whatever happens with extreme excitement
 Also I have been thinking about using timing sales rather than dollar amount sales if and when I ladder out. I appreciate the advice of those here making me look at how I may or may not be making plans. But still taking out anything substantial seems to just end up being a bad idea as my .63ish will continue to gain real value.
Not a bad place to be either way
K

"attic mine" sell everything in your attic you would otherwise die with on Facebook Marketplace or eBay....take it and buy btc dust on PayPal or Coinbase...sit on it till 2035

when 99% of more of all btc has been mined. HODL. Now you have an empty attic, make a rec room house goes up in value $30k or more..get couple arcade games and a

pool table and wait. IF as the past BTC goes up 10x or more and you have just been shuffling crap like that and other stuff meager to  btc dust and HODL'ing 10 years you

should be fine

the other thing to remember is Blackrock wants my BTC badly...I mean ....badly....as long as that is the case I will HODL....all the proof I need...everyone wants my BTC

crypto WITHOUT mining it...seems like a clue

brad

[ChartBuddy]

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[LeyMonte]

Fresh $1.6B money will be added on circulation on September 30th. FTX will pay their creditors. That's a huge amount of money will circulate on the market. We could expect a spike , I think that's the reason Btc is dipping .

"When locked up wealth returns to flight,
The markets tremble with sudden light."

Such a big announcement seems like the calm before the storm. When such a large sum of money comes into the market at once, it seems natural to suddenly change direction.

Because such a large amount coming into the market is really unusual. But the real game will start after the 30th and let's see what happens.

[Hottiek]

yeah....I don't really bring it up

I have another guy who said he had too many toys in the garage as such...he pointed to his wife's bike....was like 1 or 2 btc..from back when...and said it was the most

expensive thing in the garage

as far as I know it is the first and only and likely ever time such an argument could be won by and old HODL'er

but yeah...I have issues with the Kirby Vacuum at 1 btc back when...i also have issues with price of btc jan 2018 and price in dec 2018 going down 70% or some such

after I retired with the btc/crypto as such....bout pissed myself hodl'ing thru that (did dump 13 btc was not gonna un-retire..got back 5 btc still down 8 btc or so grrrr from

the hoard grrrr...after that dump i was more or less immune through that horror....so HODL'ing became easy...

I have also found since 2013 till even now..that of the 90% or more on the forum here and FB that come in and out of btc/crypto and maybe in the real world

so most people crack at about $50,000 or so when it is 'real $$$'.....a guy in the summer of 2013 cashed out as a millionaire mainly due to family

and wife i think it was on bfl chat (butterfly labs chat) when btc was like July 1st, 2013 like $69 a coin.....

I hope he got back into btc along that timeline or invested the 1 million to show something out of all that at least

but as a kinda 'guess' from my past readings on here and elsewhere about $50k

I had a week at probably around $50k when all my friends and family figured out and had an honest ambush intervention like I was a moonie or in Amway
 
that was one uncomfortable hour before i ran out....and the same week my mom called me up crying that I looked like a schmuck to everyone

i put my btc/crypto in a trust and don't touch it....friends/family/god daughters etc

now they call me up btc/crypto up/down all up in the air....mostly when down..and i say 'this is what you get for trusting your inheritance to me who is obviously clueless..not

my problem..not my money..in the trust...at least i keep a few people up at night

in order to be good at HODL'ing btc/crypto you have to 'despise' $$$ a little bit or you crack under the pressure...so that was my mental trickery to HODL

just tossed it in a trust for when i die My lifestyle in no way suffers....still have expertise as boring...and be stealthy with my 2012 Ford Fusion SEL with only $32.K of miles

on it

anyway...how I coped with it

ps. i type as fast as i think so don't sweat my lengthy posts..

brad

 I need to make a trust, but I really also want to blow it all before I die!!! Your words ring so true in my proverbial ears, as I believe we have been around about the same time (this is my newish account). I have not bought any corn since before this account was made (You can only buy so many hookers and blow). I am not greedy, and, yes, getting rich was never the plan; it was a very nice outcome but I was in it for the tech. I seen the real-world first case use and was blown away.
 Do I wish I would have been able to hold onto more than I did? I would think I do... But don't we all??? I remember how pissed off I was paying the extra 21 dollars from sending that first MO in. I got 6 less corn as the spot price was 3.17.
Could have, should have, would have
K  
 

[LeyMonte]

Do I wish I would have been able to hold onto more than I did? I would think I do... But don't we all??? I remember how pissed off I was paying the extra 21 dollars from sending that first MO in. I got 6 less corn as the spot price was 3.17.
Could have, should have, would have
K  

Yes,

you're right,

we've all thought at some point "could have been, should have been" and in the end it didn't happen or many did. But it's also a lesson that crypto is not just about coins, it's about a combination of patience, passion and experience.

[ChartBuddy]

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[AlcoHoDL]

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I hate it when I am building a high end  Pc and the ram specs good yet it does not work in the mobo. Well even though btc is down a bit at least silver went up a bit.

I can relate. It happened to me in 2008, in a very high-end DIY PC build ($$$$). Mobo didn't like the memory. Bought another set of sticks, which were certified by the mobo manufacturer, which worked fine. Eventually I used the "bad" RAM on another build, but I remember the feeling when the thing kept crashing on me...

[AlcoHoDL]

I wonder what Proudhoun's up to... Too busy to FUD, apparently.

This was a funny idea for a thread BTW:

Please use this thread to only post confirmed news from confirmed sources to help everyone understand what is obvious - bitcoin is in a downtrend to oblivion.  

My latest find comes, of course, from official sources in China and details how the Chinese government is planning a massive 99% attack on the blockchain.  I'll put the main points below, but anyone can check the facts from the source:

1.  Chinese offials delcare bitcoin a global financial virus
2.  Officials from other nations are in agreement with china China, including the US
3.  The Chinese government has millions of petahashes ready to deploy on the blockchain to destroy the protocol
4.  In addition to attacking the blockchian, China will sell all their mined bitcoins on MtGox

It's obvious bitcoin has gone as far as it can go, but any other thoughts about this devastating news?

A mega-pump happening today, and nutildah shall be crowned the new proudhon!

[ChartBuddy]

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[nutildah]

A mega-pump happening today, and nutildah shall be crowned the new proudhon!

Thanks but I would be an unworthy replacement. Nobody can do it like him!

the other thing to remember is Blackrock wants my BTC badly...I mean ....badly....as long as that is the case I will HODL....all the proof I need...everyone wants my BTC

crypto WITHOUT mining it...seems like a clue

brad

Welcome back!

[ChartBuddy]

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[bogdanb]

"Huge hawks and wild bald eagles are among some of the birds that make a meal of crabs. They pick up crabs and take them upwards, throwing them on a hard surface like a stone in order to break the crab's shell and get to the meat. Crabs have a soft shell, making them easy prey for many of their enemies.
When they're under the sea,
Sharks are natural enemies of the crab, relying on it as their only source of food.
Source: Biology Book

These characteristics can be seen in science/biology books.
In fact, all living things in nature are dependent on each other. The Creator has created this beautiful world in the shape of a circle.

[Gachapin]

...
in order to be good at HODL'ing btc/crypto you have to 'despise' $$$ a little bit or you crack under the pressure...so that was my mental trickery to HODL
...

This is probably one of the most important requirements for hodling!!

Experienced it myself and seen it with many others who managed to hodle through bad times