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September 20, 2025, 08:05:27 PM
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Time to start moving soon, Bitcoin.

Equities and precious metals flying. It really is about time we started seeing Bitcoin go up in price.

Q4 is close, I hope for and expect a significant pump soon otherwise we have had a very weak 2025. Historically Q4 in bull runs brings violent surges upwards. I don’t see why it should be any different this time.

Survive September and we feast in Q4.
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Time to start moving soon, Bitcoin.

Equities and precious metals flying. It really is about time we started seeing Bitcoin go up in price.

Q4 is close, I hope for and expect a significant pump soon otherwise we have had a very weak 2025. Historically Q4 in bull runs brings violent surges upwards. I don’t see why it should be any different this time.

Survive September and we feast in Q4.
We have been anticipating for the cut on interest rate and if that happens, zoom to $125k.

Bitcoin still have strong dominance that could make this month very bullish.

I am optimistic to see Bitcoin take the bull step to a new all time high.
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September 20, 2025, 08:35:34 PM

....i also have issues with price of btc jan 2018 and price in dec 2018 going down 70% or some such

after I retired with the btc/crypto as such....bout pissed myself hodl'ing thru that (did dump 13 btc was not gonna un-retire..got back 5 btc still down 8 btc or so grrrr from

the hoard grrrr...after that dump i was more or less immune through that horror....so HODL'ing became easy...
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just tossed it in a trust for when i die Smiley My lifestyle in no way suffers....still have expertise as boring...and be stealthy with my 2012 Ford Fusion SEL with only $32.K of miles

Of course, i recall your late 2018, since I went through something similar myself in regards to my having to sell some cornz towards the low of that late 2018 dippening, and then I was ONLY able to recover less than half of what I had sold.

My own situation was due to my budgeting for a construction project that I expected the bills to come due in late 2018 but also to be spread out into 2019, so throughout 2018, $6k was tested as support like 6 times before it finally broke down, and when it broke down, I found out that my bills were coming in earlier than expected and even higher than expected, which  I probably already had around 1/2 the cash that I needed, but I had to sell some cornz to cover the other half, and for me that was then around 4% of my then stash.. and yeah, maybe I bought around half of what I had sold back.  It is not a really BIG deal since they were 4x or more in profits, yet the sale was at a time that was not of my own complete choosing, and part of the problem was my presumption that the BTC price would not meaningfully drop below $6k, which it ended up doing.

Regarding the Trust, it seems a bit strange to pass money onto some likely undeserved folks rather than figuring out ways to spend it yourself, but sure, you already did (and decided) what you were going to do.  You likely could be living quite wll with your stash even following a sustainable withdrawal strategy, and also able to earn quite a large income off of your holdings, without really depleting it in terms of the ongoing appreciating dollar value.

Let's say that right now you were to have 46 BTC (yes I know this is hypothetical, but did you see what I did there?), then your spot price value would be about $5.3 million, yet more importantly, your 200-WMA value would be a bit over $2.4 million, which largely means that you could perpetually draw $240k per year income from your stash, which means that you could easily update your car or not.  You would not have to worry about money with that quantity of BTC.  You could live of yourself a cost of living adjustment of 7% per year, and since $240k withdrawal rate is perpetually sustainable you could pass on that withdrawal rate to yur decedents  (heirs).

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When trading or holding Bitcoin, you can see two sides of people’s moods: one is happy, and the other is stressed or angry. The reason is that people often buy a lot of BTC with almost all their money. When the price keeps dropping, your mood becomes bad, you don’t feel like doing anything, and small things annoy you.

But when your holdings are making a profit compared to your purchase price, your mood is very good. I’ve experienced this many times myself. My Bitcoin, along with Ether and Sol, once dropped about 60% below my purchase price. I almost went crazy and didn’t know what to do.

Then a close friend advised me that if possible, I should take some loan in dollars and buy more Bitcoin and Ether during this time. He said when the bull run starts, it could go 3–5×. I followed his advice and ended up making a lot of profit.

From this, I learned that it’s better not to invest all your money at once, but to keep some aside for dips. Now, with what I have, I can secure my future and my future children’s future. I am not married yet, but my plan to marry in 2026.

The lesson is that in bad times, don’t give up find a way to protect yourself from loss.

Your story is all fine and dandy as it relates to bitcoin, yet your wanting to include ethereum and solana into the conversation puts your mindset into question.  Do you know the difference?  Do you know that you are in a bitcoin thread?

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Sometimes I think Bitcoin was invented by some time traveler or Aliens lol... But the code was too imperfect at the beginning, so I think it was just natural evolution waiting to happen

ah ha?

You seem to be getting into the interesting question regarding whether bitcoin happened to have been invented or discovered.

Time to start moving soon, Bitcoin.
Equities and precious metals flying. It really is about time we started seeing Bitcoin go up in price.

Q4 is close, I hope for and expect a significant pump soon otherwise we have had a very weak 2025. Historically Q4 in bull runs brings violent surges upwards. I don’t see why it should be any different this time.
Survive September and we feast in Q4.
We have been anticipating for the cut on interest rate and if that happens, zoom to $125k.

Bitcoin still have strong dominance that could make this month very bullish.
I am optimistic to see Bitcoin take the bull step to a new all time high.
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What if I tell you that such greatly anticipated interest rate cut already happened on Thursday.

Does the existence of those facts change your assessment in any way?
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September 20, 2025, 10:24:10 PM

Welcome back searing some Smerit to spread around Sir

Good idea I tossed him some .


Back to BTC  115.7k and another day sideways.

Better than a dip.
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Welcome back searing some Smerit to spread around Sir
Good idea I tossed him some .

Back to BTC  115.7k and another day sideways.
Better than a dip.

At one point (maybe after the late June testing of $100k seemed to have had failed), the "don't wake me up" zone seemed to have had moved above $100k.. so then we might say we are not going to get too excited if the BTC price is anywhere between $100k and $130k.. .. even though surely sub $100k is not out of the question, there have been some difficulties, lately, to get down to even the lower $100k numbers, maybe around mid-July when new ATHs were being struck again?

It is hard to proclaim that we might be in a "don't wake me up to the zone," if there still seems to be a lot of ongoing action in the price (while people are proclaiming to be bored..... and we are still in a place that is kind of at the top of the BTC price range and also including in a kind of price location that seems to be wanting to grind some more upward.  

I hate to place an urgency on this, yet he next 72 hours are critical.tm  

Otherwise (as a back up plan), if the next 72 hours might not be critical, then the next 2 weeks would be critical.


Strike that.

We have had some Septembers in which the price has ground upward (or did not move too much in either direction), but then we arrived at October, we end up with...  surprise, surprise (which some would say is not a surprise).  Need I say more?
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Welcome back searing some Smerit to spread around Sir

Good idea I tossed him some .


Back to BTC  115.7k and another day sideways.

Better than a dip.

I thought so as well a few days ago. Wink
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Bitcoin behaves like a mid volatility stock in 2025: up 23.93% for the year.
It's definitely not what I was expecting in the last year of the cycle, presumably.

Sometimes it feels that someone had put a collar of some sort on it.
I am still expecting a q4 move, but it is strange.
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Welcome back searing some Smerit to spread around Sir
Good idea I tossed him some .

Back to BTC  115.7k and another day sideways.
Better than a dip.

At one point (maybe after the late June testing of $100k seemed to have had failed), the "don't wake me up" zone seemed to have had moved above $100k.. so then we might say we are not going to get too excited if the BTC price is anywhere between $100k and $130k.. .. even though surely sub $100k is not out of the question, there have been some difficulties, lately, to get down to even the lower $100k numbers, maybe around mid-July when new ATHs were being struck again?

It is hard to proclaim that we might be in a "don't wake me up to the zone," if there still seems to be a lot of ongoing action in the price (while people are proclaiming to be bored..... and we are still in a place that is kind of at the top of the BTC price range and also including in a kind of price location that seems to be wanting to grind some more upward.  

I hate to place an urgency on this, yet he next 72 hours are critical.tm  

Otherwise (as a back up plan), if the next 72 hours might not be critical, then the next 2 weeks would be critical.


Strike that.

We have had some Septembers in which the price has ground upward (or did not move too much in either direction), but then we arrived at October, we end up with...  surprise, surprise (which some would say is not a surprise).  Need I say more?

Shut up I have been tap dancing around this belief in October. Do not fuel it up like I did with my famous 70k In may (done in April 2021 and it took until 2024 to get to that 70k)
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in order to be good at HODL'ing btc/crypto you have to 'despise' $$$ a little bit or you crack under the pressure...so that was my mental trickery to HODL
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This is probably one of the most important requirements for hodling!!

Experienced it myself and seen it with many others who managed to hodle through bad times

2018 I think was the last time I touched any.....the crash was so bad i did not want to un-retire....down i think 70% by end of the year I retired.....

sold 13 btc got back over time 5 btc...so down 8 btc (grrrr)

no debt ...no house debt....live off my investements and social security...still enough to get by on the American Dream and buy dumb stuff...

in disguise with my 2012 Ford Fusion SEL with 32.5k of miles on it (no sh*t)

I put it all in a trust when BTC pumped after 2018....freaked me out..too much pressure ..so dumped it into a trust...so now in a trust for others when i die...I can tap into it

..but don't think of it like  my $$$ anymore

basically farmer poor..you have 5 generations of farming say...average farm is 320 acres from way back (small most have like 5k or acres) at $10k an acre.....$3.2 million at

dollars at 320 acres....but you pass it own is how it worked the previous 5 generations...most due same going forward in 2025 onward...

on paper..it is what they call 'farmer poor' ...you look good on paper ..but in reality...still have to kick sh*t off the boots when you go in the house

gold diggers would NOT be impressed comparing above..paper profits vs income reality Smiley ie gold diggers not impressed with working farmers theory

the 2012 Ford Fusion is also an effective anti-gold digger method that works very well

brad

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ow!...crabs on tube-pipes...., so then,  theses crabs...


These crabs!, we never know if they will go under the waves of the sea or if they will climb the rocks...

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 That's what we call, Good eatin'
yes, so, as I should not catch it...  Very good taste, but people are greedy and end up that in some areas they hunt all the crabs possible, causing them to become extinct from these places, and or even, easily destroy their habitats to build in place.
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"Huge hawks and wild bald eagles are among some of the birds that make a meal of crabs. They pick up crabs and take them upwards, throwing them on a hard surface like a stone in order to break the crab's shell and get to the meat. Crabs have a soft shell, making them easy prey for many of their enemies.
When they're under the sea,
Sharks are natural enemies of the crab, relying on it as their only source of food.
Source: Biology Book

These characteristics can be seen in science/biology books.
In fact, all living things in nature are dependent on each other. The Creator has created this beautiful world in the shape of a circle.
Yes, because of this dependence on one another, it was when one day, several human beings of different races came together to build a tower that would reach the heavens....And this story keeps repeating itself in various scenarios.
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Alpaca socks are.... never mind.   Thank you for contributing to the success of Bitcoin!

Hey! Don't knock alpaca socks.

Without alpaca sox what would Proudhon use as an avatar?

Sox rox.
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in order to be good at HODL'ing btc/crypto you have to 'despise' $$$ a little bit or you crack under the pressure...so that was my mental trickery to HODL
...

This is probably one of the most important requirements for hodling!!

Experienced it myself and seen it with many others who managed to hodle through bad times

2018 I think was the last time I touched any.....the crash was so bad i did not want to un-retire....down i think 70% by end of the year I retired.....

sold 13 btc got back over time 5 btc...so down 8 btc (grrrr)

no debt ...no house debt....live off my investements and social security...still enough to get by on the American Dream and buy dumb stuff...

in disguise with my 2012 Ford Fusion SEL with 32.5k of miles on it (no sh*t)

I put it all in a trust when BTC pumped after 2018....freaked me out..too much pressure ..so dumped it into a trust...so now in a trust for others when i die...I can tap into it

..but don't think of it like  my $$$ anymore

basically farmer poor..you have 5 generations of farming say...average farm is 320 acres from way back (small most have like 5k or acres) at $10k an acre.....$3.2 million at

dollars at 320 acres....but you pass it own is how it worked the previous 5 generations...most due same going forward in 2025 onward...

on paper..it is what they call 'farmer poor' ...you look good on paper ..but in reality...still have to kick sh*t off the boots when you go in the house

gold diggers would NOT be impressed comparing above..paper profits vs income reality Smiley ie gold diggers not impressed with working farmers theory

the 2012 Ford Fusion is also an effective anti-gold digger method that works very well

brad


Your words ring a bell in my head how time flies.
The working farmers theory was a backbone of the country economy years ago but it seems like everything has changed entirely.
Technology advancement has made people shift their mindsets away from having large farmlands which was a vast investment then but now tech has taken over. No respect and adequate policies to protect farmers and farm lands like it used to be.

The society is gradually shifting to investing in Bitcoin and other financial markets. People are not taking farming seriously because it doesn't pay like it used to be.
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People are not taking farming seriously because it doesn't pay like it used to be.

Farming was never about "paying". It is about feeding.

Give your head a shake.
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