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[Franciem]

after mike tyson announcement his atm
more investor come to bitcoin

Im sure we can hit 250$ 

[Cconvert2G36]

Pigeons, almost too delicious.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4498529/hillary-delicious

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[Norway]

Sometimes, I get the imrpession that some people in this forum wants the transactions/seconds to be as small as possible.
BOMB: New code incomming! Blocksize is just a temporary fix! Bitcoin will scale. By sharing the work. Like the VISA thieves do today. Not hard to do theoretically! Ha ha ha, we will see who's surviving!

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[JayJuanGee]

Sometimes, I get the imrpession that some people in this forum wants the transactions/seconds to be as small as possible.
BOMB: New code incomming! Blocksize is just a temporary fix! Bitcoin will scale. By sharing the work. Like the VISA thieves do today. Not hard to do theoretically! Ha ha ha, we will see who's surviving!

From the whole scaling debate, I thought that generally people were o.k. with the idea of increasing the blocksize etc; however, the issue is having a new system imposed that is NOT thoroughly vetted and seems to have the potential to take away decentralization.

I believe overall there is consensus that transactions/second have to increase; it is just a question regarding the extent to which what appeared to be a minority was going to be imposing such a hard fork and new direction.. along with questionable centralization baggage.

[Cconvert2G36]

Sometimes, I get the imrpession that some people in this forum wants the transactions/seconds to be as small as possible.
BOMB: New code incomming! Blocksize is just a temporary fix! Bitcoin will scale. By sharing the work. Like the VISA thieves do today. Not hard to do theoretically! Ha ha ha, we will see who's surviving!

From the whole scaling debate, I thought that generally people were o.k. with the idea of increasing the blocksize etc; however, the issue is having a new system imposed that is NOT thoroughly vetted and seems to have the potential to take away decentralization.

I believe overall there is consensus that transactions/second have to increase; it is just a question regarding the extent to which what appeared to be a minority was going to be imposing such a hard fork and new direction.. along with questionable centralization baggage.

Scaling past 1MB is necessarily going to be a hard fork, 75% is not a minority. And I'm thankful that Gavin and Mike were willing to stick their necks out to press the issue. I do think a significant amount of investment and use is being deterred by the limit.

On the other hand, it's important to show the outside world that major changes to Bitcoin don't happen on a whim, so the careful debate and vetting of ideas is important. It was a major mistake to include anything other than BIP101 to XT (though I disagree with the accusations levied at the additions.) It's going to be a slow drip to the conference in Dec. Until then, I'll stockpile memes and get ready to ride the pump when an agreement is in view.

My personal opinion agrees with Peter R, miners are economically incentivized to choose an appropriate max_block_size. Control at the protocol level is illusory, and inappropriate. Given enough time, I think we'll see this happen, but not without much hand wringing and gnashing of teeth. 

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[rememberme]

The weekend dump is coming 

[dre1982]

The weekend dump is coming 

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 like always but now it's higher then normal so the can't dump it lower then last time.

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[Fatman3001]

Am I the only one who thinks this VW-case is friggin hilarious?

Ze Germans have been bashing the Greeks for nearly a decade for fingering the numbers, which consequently led to their economy imploding. This, according to ze Germans, is a sin that can never be forgiven.

And now it turns out that the symbol of German industrial might (VW) has been fingering their engine software to avoid taxes on emission and to get satisfy emission standards. If they have to pay back emission taxes AND fines for every single vehicle sold with these engines it can break VWs back.

In other words: Ze Germans (who historically have been such a beacon of morals and decency [pfffff]) can be thrown into depression because of their own lying cheating ways.

BTW: Congratulations to Greece for the reelection of Syriza! I know this isn't the reddest crowd, but it's heartening to see that the Greek people is standing strong and trying to change how things are done.  

[Searing]

Am I the only one who thinks this VW-case is friggin hilarious?

Ze Germans have been bashing the Greeks for nearly a decade for fingering the numbers, which consequently led to their economy imploding. This, according to ze Germans, is a sin that can never be forgiven.

And now it turns out that the symbol of German industrial might (VW) has been fingering their engine software to avoid taxes on emission and to get satisfy emission standards. If they have to pay back emission taxes AND fines for every single vehicle sold with these engines it can break VWs back.

In other words: Ze Germans (who historically have been such a beacon of morals and decency [pfffff]) can be thrown into depression because of their own lying cheating ways.

BTW: Congratulations to Greece for the reelection of Syriza! I know this isn't the reddest crowd, but it's heartening to see that the Greek people is standing strong and trying to change how things are done.  

I'd heard about this chip stuff years ago from my auto mechanic friends but they said it was NOT VW .the story I've heard ...it was the guys making big semi truck engines doing such
so it may be we will find out EVERYONE has been cheating in this manner

........if nothing else if it is only VW then we will know this for sure in that every frigging
supposed 'clean' diesel made by ANYBODY is gonna get tested now in a big way by numerous countries...VW better hope it is everyone ..if it is ONLY just them
that was dumb enough to do this cheat with all the countries going after them on regulations on such they will be out of business eventually imho )

[Fatman3001]

Am I the only one who thinks this VW-case is friggin hilarious?

Ze Germans have been bashing the Greeks for nearly a decade for fingering the numbers, which consequently led to their economy imploding. This, according to ze Germans, is a sin that can never be forgiven.

And now it turns out that the symbol of German industrial might (VW) has been fingering their engine software to avoid taxes on emission and to get satisfy emission standards. If they have to pay back emission taxes AND fines for every single vehicle sold with these engines it can break VWs back.

In other words: Ze Germans (who historically have been such a beacon of morals and decency [pfffff]) can be thrown into depression because of their own lying cheating ways.

BTW: Congratulations to Greece for the reelection of Syriza! I know this isn't the reddest crowd, but it's heartening to see that the Greek people is standing strong and trying to change how things are done.  

I'd heard about this chip stuff years ago from my auto mechanic friends but they said it was NOT VW .the story I've heard ...it was the guys making big semi truck engines doing such
so it may be we will find out EVERYONE has been cheating in this manner

........if nothing else if it is only VW then we will know this for sure in that every frigging
supposed 'clean' diesel made by ANYBODY is gonna get tested now in a big way by numerous countries...VW better hope it is everyone ..if it is ONLY just them
that was dumb enough to do this cheat with all the countries going after them on regulations on such they will be out of business eventually imho )

BMW passed with flying colours in the same test that VW got caught, so it seems it is possible to make them clean. I am interested to see how FIAT is doing though. Renault and Volvo got nicked in the truck-scandal you're referring to, so I would be surprised if they were caught doing that again.

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