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[Fatman3001]

Am I the only one who thinks this VW-case is friggin hilarious?

Ze Germans have been bashing the Greeks for nearly a decade for fingering the numbers, which consequently led to their economy imploding. This, according to ze Germans, is a sin that can never be forgiven.

And now it turns out that the symbol of German industrial might (VW) has been fingering their engine software to avoid taxes on emission and to get satisfy emission standards. If they have to pay back emission taxes AND fines for every single vehicle sold with these engines it can break VWs back.

In other words: Ze Germans (who historically have been such a beacon of morals and decency [pfffff]) can be thrown into depression because of their own lying cheating ways.

BTW: Congratulations to Greece for the reelection of Syriza! I know this isn't the reddest crowd, but it's heartening to see that the Greek people is standing strong and trying to change how things are done.  

[Searing]

Am I the only one who thinks this VW-case is friggin hilarious?

Ze Germans have been bashing the Greeks for nearly a decade for fingering the numbers, which consequently led to their economy imploding. This, according to ze Germans, is a sin that can never be forgiven.

And now it turns out that the symbol of German industrial might (VW) has been fingering their engine software to avoid taxes on emission and to get satisfy emission standards. If they have to pay back emission taxes AND fines for every single vehicle sold with these engines it can break VWs back.

In other words: Ze Germans (who historically have been such a beacon of morals and decency [pfffff]) can be thrown into depression because of their own lying cheating ways.

BTW: Congratulations to Greece for the reelection of Syriza! I know this isn't the reddest crowd, but it's heartening to see that the Greek people is standing strong and trying to change how things are done.  

I'd heard about this chip stuff years ago from my auto mechanic friends but they said it was NOT VW .the story I've heard ...it was the guys making big semi truck engines doing such
so it may be we will find out EVERYONE has been cheating in this manner

........if nothing else if it is only VW then we will know this for sure in that every frigging
supposed 'clean' diesel made by ANYBODY is gonna get tested now in a big way by numerous countries...VW better hope it is everyone ..if it is ONLY just them
that was dumb enough to do this cheat with all the countries going after them on regulations on such they will be out of business eventually imho )

[Fatman3001]

Am I the only one who thinks this VW-case is friggin hilarious?

Ze Germans have been bashing the Greeks for nearly a decade for fingering the numbers, which consequently led to their economy imploding. This, according to ze Germans, is a sin that can never be forgiven.

And now it turns out that the symbol of German industrial might (VW) has been fingering their engine software to avoid taxes on emission and to get satisfy emission standards. If they have to pay back emission taxes AND fines for every single vehicle sold with these engines it can break VWs back.

In other words: Ze Germans (who historically have been such a beacon of morals and decency [pfffff]) can be thrown into depression because of their own lying cheating ways.

BTW: Congratulations to Greece for the reelection of Syriza! I know this isn't the reddest crowd, but it's heartening to see that the Greek people is standing strong and trying to change how things are done.  

I'd heard about this chip stuff years ago from my auto mechanic friends but they said it was NOT VW .the story I've heard ...it was the guys making big semi truck engines doing such
so it may be we will find out EVERYONE has been cheating in this manner

........if nothing else if it is only VW then we will know this for sure in that every frigging
supposed 'clean' diesel made by ANYBODY is gonna get tested now in a big way by numerous countries...VW better hope it is everyone ..if it is ONLY just them
that was dumb enough to do this cheat with all the countries going after them on regulations on such they will be out of business eventually imho )

BMW passed with flying colours in the same test that VW got caught, so it seems it is possible to make them clean. I am interested to see how FIAT is doing though. Renault and Volvo got nicked in the truck-scandal you're referring to, so I would be surprised if they were caught doing that again.

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[BlindMayorBitcorn]

#Fingeringthenumbers, #Numberingthefingers, #thePeoplesCar, #Godwinslaw

[Fatman3001]

#Godwinslaw

I'm not a big proponent of erasing history. Especially when some people seem so eager to forget; and brush it away with #Godwinslaw.

"We'll never forget!", that's what I learned in school.

In my mind that should mean that we raise an eyebrow when ze Germans get on their high horse to cast judgement on others. At least the Greeks didn't vote "Golden Dawn" in to clear up the mess. We'll see if ze Germans can deal with things as graciously if this VW shit hits the fan. I'll gladly suffer some gratuitous nazi comparisons if that will remind them to stay on the straight and narrow.

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[600watt]

Am I the only one who thinks this VW-case is friggin hilarious?

Ze Germans have been bashing the Greeks for nearly a decade for fingering the numbers, which consequently led to their economy imploding. This, according to ze Germans, is a sin that can never be forgiven.

And now it turns out that the symbol of German industrial might (VW) has been fingering their engine software to avoid taxes on emission and to get satisfy emission standards. If they have to pay back emission taxes AND fines for every single vehicle sold with these engines it can break VWs back.

In other words: Ze Germans (who historically have been such a beacon of morals and decency [pfffff]) can be thrown into depression because of their own lying cheating ways.

BTW: Congratulations to Greece for the reelection of Syriza! I know this isn't the reddest crowd, but it's heartening to see that the Greek people is standing strong and trying to change how things are done.  

Pride goes before a fall.  

germany was trying hard to set up an image of straigthness and reliability. the fact that this most epic fuck-up by vw can tear that image down shows that this de-glorification was overdue. german elite is as greedy as any other elite. more arrogant maybe, but as greedy.

i am not sure if the regular german has the slightest idea how seriously this fuck up is seen internationally.

[Denker]

Am I the only one who thinks this VW-case is friggin hilarious?

Ze Germans have been bashing the Greeks for nearly a decade for fingering the numbers, which consequently led to their economy imploding. This, according to ze Germans, is a sin that can never be forgiven.

And now it turns out that the symbol of German industrial might (VW) has been fingering their engine software to avoid taxes on emission and to get satisfy emission standards. If they have to pay back emission taxes AND fines for every single vehicle sold with these engines it can break VWs back.

In other words: Ze Germans (who historically have been such a beacon of morals and decency [pfffff]) can be thrown into depression because of their own lying cheating ways.

BTW: Congratulations to Greece for the reelection of Syriza! I know this isn't the reddest crowd, but it's heartening to see that the Greek people is standing strong and trying to change how things are done.  

Pride goes before a fall.  

germany was trying hard to set up an image of straigthness and reliability. the fact that this most epic fuck-up by vw can tear that image down shows that this de-glorification was overdue. german elite is as greedy as any other elite. more arrogant maybe, but as greedy.

i am not sure if the regular german has the slightest idea how seriously this fuck up is seen internationally.

Of course we know that. We are reading foreign newspapers and watching medias from outside. This is a really big mess. You should ask the normal worker/employee what they think about that.They are totally pissed that a small group of managers and decision makers where doing this.And now where many see the coming threat of getting dismissed guess who will have to go first?
Furthermore this is a big image damage to all german export companies. We know very well how serious this is.The media is reporting every day.
A nice distraction to the other mess we are facing by all this "refugees" coming in thanks to our silly chancelor.

[tarmi]

147 bot is in!

let's trap more noobs in this range.

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[Fatman3001]

Am I the only one who thinks this VW-case is friggin hilarious?

Ze Germans have been bashing the Greeks for nearly a decade for fingering the numbers, which consequently led to their economy imploding. This, according to ze Germans, is a sin that can never be forgiven.

And now it turns out that the symbol of German industrial might (VW) has been fingering their engine software to avoid taxes on emission and to get satisfy emission standards. If they have to pay back emission taxes AND fines for every single vehicle sold with these engines it can break VWs back.

In other words: Ze Germans (who historically have been such a beacon of morals and decency [pfffff]) can be thrown into depression because of their own lying cheating ways.

BTW: Congratulations to Greece for the reelection of Syriza! I know this isn't the reddest crowd, but it's heartening to see that the Greek people is standing strong and trying to change how things are done.  

Pride goes before a fall.  

germany was trying hard to set up an image of straigthness and reliability. the fact that this most epic fuck-up by vw can tear that image down shows that this de-glorification was overdue. german elite is as greedy as any other elite. more arrogant maybe, but as greedy.

i am not sure if the regular german has the slightest idea how seriously this fuck up is seen internationally.

Or how much it will cost. In Norway they may have to pay as much as $10000 in unpaid taxes and fines per vehicle if they are given the same rates as individuals. That is, if the cars are eligible for approval at all. If not, every customer will need full reimbursement; in addition to fines of course.

Now, Norway is a small country, but if we slam a 1-4 billion usd loss in their face I would dread to think what the rest of the world has to offer. Will Germany be begging us for forgiveness? How will it look like when they try to explain to Greece that VW is "too big to fail"?

I'm guessing they're gonna work on all fronts to minimize damage and come to some agreement on the EU level where they will be let off with a fine of a few billion, a small percentage of what they should have paid. But still, Tsipras has little to lose by telling them what's what if they keep rolling their eyes at him.

[Proxiebuier]

The weekend dump is coming 

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 like always but now it's higher then normal so the can't dump it lower then last time.

yeahh some people need cash, need money to relax with family
i sell some of my bitcoin too

[Fatman3001]

@BMB

A nice distraction to the other mess we are facing by all this "refugees" coming in thanks to our silly chancelor.

Where the fuck is that Godwin fella you're talking about? I'd like to ask him a couple of questions.

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[BlindMayorBitcorn]

@BMB

A nice distraction to the other mess we are facing by all this "refugees" coming in thanks to our silly chancelor.

Where the fuck is that Godwin fella you're talking about? I'd like to ask him a couple of questions.

That is actually really disturbing 

[dre1982]

It's still hovering around the 235. I didn't expect that. Normally there is a weekend dip. Wondering what the next week will bring.

[Denker]

@BMB

A nice distraction to the other mess we are facing by all this "refugees" coming in thanks to our silly chancelor.

Where the fuck is that Godwin fella you're talking about? I'd like to ask him a couple of questions.

Ridiculous. Not even close to that.