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[whoreble]

Anyone else still think we are not mooning quite yet?.....

Yeah... a bit underchooched, a hair lean on enthusiasm for truly stoichiometric rocket blend.

Edit: The final piece of Satoshi puzzle click into place https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4i43gr/craig_wrights_sister_told_bitcoinbelle_that_he/

[r0ach]

Edit: The final piece of Satoshi puzzle click into place https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4i43gr/craig_wrights_sister_told_bitcoinbelle_that_he/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxpVwBzFAkw

[JayJuanGee]

Now that the world knows the Satoshi coins are safely tucked away in the bosom of the Tulip Trust...

Are they?

Or aren't they? 

You gotta buy into Wright's phoney story and lacking evidence if you are going to go with the seemingly made up Tulip Trust scenario. 

Or do you?

Why are you having such a difficult time with this?  You blind or something?

I know something's happening here, but I don't know what it is.

O.k.... I will bite... BMB seemingly turned into a troll...   


In essence, the summary is that Wright has been making the shit up for his own self-interests, and possibly he's got a few screws loose.... This story has been posted all over various bitcoin forums and even received some mainstream media attention. 

At first, when the story broke, a few days ago, a considerable amount of credibility was given to the possibility that the story could be true this time because Gavin had corroborated and gave credit to the story and a few other potentially credible sources were also involved in such corroboration efforts, yet it only took a few hours for the more sophisticated bitcoin folks to poke holes in the story in meaningful ways; however, it seems to have taken a few days to sink in regarding the level of rubbishness that we again had pushed upon us...   so the whole story is crap, and both Wright and Gavin have made retreats.. and such resolution seems to be decent for Bitcoin at the moment because it seems to resolve several matters not only including how much of a phoney is Wright but also sheds some light on Gavin's poor judgement and also his compromised judgement (which would also have the results of discrediting some of his XT and Classic promotional efforts).  A supposed Tulip Trust in intricately related to some of these Wright claims about being Satoshi, yet I have my suspicions that we may not have heard the last from Wright and the supposed existence of a Tulip Trust.

[Fatman3001]

Now that the world knows the Satoshi coins are safely tucked away in the bosom of the Tulip Trust...

Are they?

Or aren't they? 

You gotta buy into Wright's phoney story and lacking evidence if you are going to go with the seemingly made up Tulip Trust scenario. 

Or do you?

Why are you having such a difficult time with this?  You blind or something?

I know something's happening here, but I don't know what it is.

Satoshi came out of the closet and "The Bitcoin Community" threw him back in again.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

Now that the world knows the Satoshi coins are safely tucked away in the bosom of the Tulip Trust...

Are they?

Or aren't they? 

You gotta buy into Wright's phoney story and lacking evidence if you are going to go with the seemingly made up Tulip Trust scenario. 

Or do you?

Why are you having such a difficult time with this?  You blind or something?

I know something's happening here, but I don't know what it is.

O.k.... I will bite... BMB seemingly turned into a troll...   


In essence, the summary is that Wright has been making the shit up for his own self-interests, and possibly he's got a few screws loose.... This story has been posted all over various bitcoin forums and even received some mainstream media attention. 

At first, when the story broke, a few days ago, a considerable amount of credibility was given to the possibility that the story could be true this ------stopped reading here

I don't think anybody needs a summary. You think the signed message for Gavin from block 1 was some MITM parlor trick then?

[JayJuanGee]

Now that the world knows the Satoshi coins are safely tucked away in the bosom of the Tulip Trust...

Are they?

Or aren't they? 

You gotta buy into Wright's phoney story and lacking evidence if you are going to go with the seemingly made up Tulip Trust scenario. 

Or do you?

Why are you having such a difficult time with this?  You blind or something?

I know something's happening here, but I don't know what it is.

O.k.... I will bite... BMB seemingly turned into a troll...   


In essence, the summary is that Wright has been making the shit up for his own self-interests, and possibly he's got a few screws loose.... This story has been posted all over various bitcoin forums and even received some mainstream media attention. 

At first, when the story broke, a few days ago, a considerable amount of credibility was given to the possibility that the story could be true this ------stopped reading here

I don't think anybody needs a summary. You think the signed message for Gavin from block 1 was some MITM parlor trick then?

It doesn't really matter because it was not made public, and Wright brags about having a big dick (in other words the 15th largest computer in the world, and the largest private computer in the world).  Maybe he hashed with that biggest dick computer some kind of information that appeared to be real, and any event there is no need to have individuals privately vouching when there are a variety of public methods that would be much less convoluted and much more verifiable, in the event that someone really wanted to show evidence of truth of this kind of Satoshi identity nature.

[iCEBREAKER]

where's segwit?  

Segwit is (as promised) right here:

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7910

every day without an inch of movement from Blockstream, increases the possibility. The fact that they start bringing up PoW changes when backed into a corner gives even more weight to the idea that they would rather go to war than compromise to 2MB.

Blockstream is moving rapidly on segwit, sidechains, and Lightning.  They are meticulously preparing Bitcoin to be carefully scaled ASAP.

Classic, OTOH, is spreading '2MB? Not much testing needed' nonsense.

And yes, we will "go to war" to defend Bitcoin's diverse/diffuse/defensible/resilient characteristics, from which its key interesting property of antifragility emerges.

Whine about it all you want.  Nothing you do can move our Honey Badger's needle one iota.  You have no power here.

You're the one whining. We're winning.

Now who is the one whining?  You.

Now who is the one winning?  Me.

I hope you've learned something here, besides what it feels like to be crushed by a 75,000 horsepower iCEBREAKER.

[Fatman3001]

where's segwit?  

Segwit is (as promised) right here:

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7910

every day without an inch of movement from Blockstream, increases the possibility. The fact that they start bringing up PoW changes when backed into a corner gives even more weight to the idea that they would rather go to war than compromise to 2MB.

Blockstream is moving rapidly on segwit, sidechains, and Lightning.  They are meticulously preparing Bitcoin to be carefully scaled ASAP.

Classic, OTOH, is spreading '2MB? Not much testing needed' nonsense.

And yes, we will "go to war" to defend Bitcoin's diverse/diffuse/defensible/resilient characteristics, from which its key interesting property of antifragility emerges.

Whine about it all you want.  Nothing you do can move our Honey Badger's needle one iota.  You have no power here.

You're the one whining. We're winning.

Now who is the one whining?  You.

Now who is the one winning?  Me.

I hope you've learned something here, besides what it feels like to be crushed by a 75,000 horsepower iCEBREAKER.

Cool! I managed to annoy wINDBREAKER!

Success!!!

Edit: a post from January? Man, I must really have gotten under his skin. This feels sooooo gooood!

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

Now that the world knows the Satoshi coins are safely tucked away in the bosom of the Tulip Trust...

Are they?

Or aren't they? 

You gotta buy into Wright's phoney story and lacking evidence if you are going to go with the seemingly made up Tulip Trust scenario. 

Or do you?

Why are you having such a difficult time with this?  You blind or something?

I know something's happening here, but I don't know what it is.

O.k.... I will bite... BMB seemingly turned into a troll...   


In essence, the summary is that Wright has been making the shit up for his own self-interests, and possibly he's got a few screws loose.... This story has been posted all over various bitcoin forums and even received some mainstream media attention. 

At first, when the story broke, a few days ago, a considerable amount of credibility was given to the possibility that the story could be true this ------stopped reading here

I don't think anybody needs a summary. You think the signed message for Gavin from block 1 was some MITM parlor trick then?

It doesn't really matter because it was not made public----- snipped here

It doesn't matter to the code, but it matters who has access to the coins and when. Maybe he doesn't give a shit if we believe him. Maybe he was using Gavin to confirm him for his Tulip Trustee. Idk.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

I think the most sensible theory going is that Kleiman was the voice of Satoshi on this forum; the times during which our Satoshi posted seems to suggest he was doing it from the states. I think Wright probably wrote the white paper and had Kleiman edit it? And it was probably Wright communicating with Gavin by email.

Or not. But it has to have been someone, and a bunch of this stuff fits. Even if CSW happens to be some kind of nut. Let's face it...

[Fatman3001]

I think the most sensible theory going is that Kleiman was the voice of Satoshi on this forum; the times during which our Satoshi posted seems to suggest he was doing it from the states. I think Wright probably wrote the white paper and had Kleiman edit it? And it was probably Wright communicating with Gavin by email.

Or not. But it has to have been someone, and a bunch of this stuff fits. Even if CSW happens to be some kind of nut. Let's face it...

JVP confirmed that CW was the Satashi Nakamoto he met in 2005. So if it's a scam then he's in on it too.

[whoreble]

I hope you've learned something here, besides what it feels like to be crushed by a 75,000 horsepower iCEMAKER.

What's the safe word again?

@Fatman & BMB, too many TLAs, getting confused.

[European Central Bank]

JVP confirmed that CW was the Satashi Nakamoto he met in 2005. So if it's a scam then he's in on it too.

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/satoshi-saga-continues-tulip-trust-trustee-expected-to-appear-by-september-says-joseph-vaughnperling-1462467803

This interview with him sucks butt. I'm not interested in what he has to say after all this cryptic shit.

[JayJuanGee]

Now that the world knows the Satoshi coins are safely tucked away in the bosom of the Tulip Trust...

Are they?

Or aren't they? 

You gotta buy into Wright's phoney story and lacking evidence if you are going to go with the seemingly made up Tulip Trust scenario. 

Or do you?

Why are you having such a difficult time with this?  You blind or something?

I know something's happening here, but I don't know what it is.

O.k.... I will bite... BMB seemingly turned into a troll...   


In essence, the summary is that Wright has been making the shit up for his own self-interests, and possibly he's got a few screws loose.... This story has been posted all over various bitcoin forums and even received some mainstream media attention. 

At first, when the story broke, a few days ago, a considerable amount of credibility was given to the possibility that the story could be true this ------stopped reading here

I don't think anybody needs a summary. You think the signed message for Gavin from block 1 was some MITM parlor trick then?

It doesn't really matter because it was not made public----- snipped here

It doesn't matter to the code, but it matters who has access to the coins and when. Maybe he doesn't give a shit if we believe him. Maybe he was using Gavin to confirm him for his Tulip Trustee. Idk.

I'm not saying anything different than you, here.. in respect to what matters... Yes, if if he does have access to the coins, or anyone has access to the coins, then that does matter.  So far, no one has shown to have access to the coins whether directly or some kind of supposed Tulip Trust... or supposed Tulip Trustee....

There has not been any meaningful evidence to corroborate any of the claims within means that would truly be available if someone were to want to demonstrate an ability to control Satoshi coins.

In other words, there is not need to ascribe further uncertainties to the Satoshi coins than what previously existed and what had already likely been priced in.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

I hope you've learned something here, besides what it feels like to be crushed by a 75,000 horsepower iCEMAKER.

What's the safe word again?

@Fatman & BMB, too many TLAs, getting confused.

NLC is probably right.

[Fatman3001]

JVP confirmed that CW was the Satashi Nakamoto he met in 2005. So if it's a scam then he's in on it too.

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/satoshi-saga-continues-tulip-trust-trustee-expected-to-appear-by-september-says-joseph-vaughnperling-1462467803

This interview with him sucks butt. I'm not interested in what he has to say after all this cryptic shit.

Nobody is forcing you to have an opinion. Just kick your shoes off, lean back and relax.

[JayJuanGee]

I think the most sensible theory going is that Kleiman was the voice of Satoshi on this forum; the times during which our Satoshi posted seems to suggest he was doing it from the states. I think Wright probably wrote the white paper and had Kleiman edit it? And it was probably Wright communicating with Gavin by email.

Or not. But it has to have been someone, and a bunch of this stuff fits. Even if CSW happens to be some kind of nut. Let's face it...

JVP confirmed that CW was the Satashi Nakamoto he met in 2005. So if it's a scam then he's in on it too.

Looks like the two of you want to use scant evidence and nearly pure conjecture to continue this matter when more easily and readily available means to prove (if CW had been involved as Satoshi) exist and are not being employed... in other words, you are attempting to spread FUCD... based on pure conjecture when the actual direct evidence and logic supports the contrary conclusion that Wright is a credential reliant, fucking phoney and wanna be scam artist.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

By being ready to continue this matter, do you mean buying him dinner? I'm just not ready to close my mind to possibilities.

[JayJuanGee]

JVP confirmed that CW was the Satashi Nakamoto he met in 2005. So if it's a scam then he's in on it too.

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/satoshi-saga-continues-tulip-trust-trustee-expected-to-appear-by-september-says-joseph-vaughnperling-1462467803

This interview with him sucks butt. I'm not interested in what he has to say after all this cryptic shit.

You see??? we must be heading into unchartered territory because even the European Central Bank is on board regarding the bullshit nature of the Wright=Satoshi claims.   

[Fatman3001]

I think the most sensible theory going is that Kleiman was the voice of Satoshi on this forum; the times during which our Satoshi posted seems to suggest he was doing it from the states. I think Wright probably wrote the white paper and had Kleiman edit it? And it was probably Wright communicating with Gavin by email.

Or not. But it has to have been someone, and a bunch of this stuff fits. Even if CSW happens to be some kind of nut. Let's face it...

JVP confirmed that CW was the Satashi Nakamoto he met in 2005. So if it's a scam then he's in on it too.

Looks like the two of you want to use scant evidence and nearly pure conjecture to continue this matter when more easily and readily available means to prove (if CW had been involved as Satoshi) exist and are not being employed... in other words, you are attempting to spread FUCD... based on pure conjecture when the actual direct evidence and logic supports the contrary conclusion that Wright is a credential reliant, fucking phoney and wanna be scam artist.

I think you're right in saying that he's a "wanna be scam artist" atm. Unintentionally, of course, but it doesn't happen often so let's celebrate it.