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February 02, 2014, 01:01:06 PM
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It seems that rallies and crashes and blips and blops only occur when Huobi is active, which is only when the Chinese are awake and not having New Year's dim sum with their families.

And there are many bitcoin chart/statistics sites that do not even mention them...

bitstamp is still down
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February 02, 2014, 01:07:01 PM
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It seems that rallies and crashes and blips and blops only occur when Huobi is active, which is only when the Chinese are awake and not having New Year's dim sum with their families.

And there are many bitcoin chart/statistics sites that do not even mention them...

bitstamp is still down
They're down for maintenance if I recall it correctly.
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February 02, 2014, 01:08:25 PM
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It seems that rallies and crashes and blips and blops only occur when Huobi is active, which is only when the Chinese are awake and not having New Year's dim sum with their families.

And there are many bitcoin chart/statistics sites that do not even mention them...

bitstamp is still down
They're down for maintenance if I recall it correctly.

yeah, it was supposed to be fixed two hours ago though, but it's still down.
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February 02, 2014, 01:10:32 PM
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It seems that rallies and crashes and blips and blops only occur when Huobi is active, which is only when the Chinese are awake and not having New Year's dim sum with their families.

And there are many bitcoin chart/statistics sites that do not even mention them...

bitstamp is still down
They're down for maintenance if I recall it correctly.

yeah, it was supposed to be fixed two hours ago though, but it's still down.
They maybe ran in to some trouble? From my own experience I know that you can be quite certain to do so during maintenance and such.
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February 02, 2014, 01:12:25 PM
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yeah, it was supposed to be fixed two hours ago though, but it's still down.
Trade API is still running (since 12:20 CET).
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February 02, 2014, 01:21:41 PM
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Huobi and BTC-China both through 5000.
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No argument for me..I am expecting up as I say... just noting that the $817 level I pointed out yesterday as being a potential resistance/pivot/support  level has indeed done so for the past 12 hours baring minor dips out but not out of the channels...  I am going to continue to track the pivots and levels I have posted and see how they continue to play out... as a bit o fun

LOL... u guessed 20 numbers between 725-991, added "-ish" to those numbers, called this a "channel" and now claim victory that the price hovered around one of your "-ish" guesses for 3 hours. On top of that you said "i expect it to go up but it could go sideways and here are some lower prices in case it falls."

Quick, sign me up for your newsletter, Nostradamus. Care to give us another $250 range guess in quatrain?

Oh dear , I am sorry,,  you are right I posted a scenario and it actually played out for 24 hours so far  and continues to ... sorry how stupid of me... I shall only post photos of flying trains from now on, that is what we are here for silly me...  

lol... maybe you should learn how to read! and what support and resistance and pivot points are.
- EDIT Sorry I am a cranky fckr in the mornings

 I predicted channels and pivot levels....  so ermm yeah... take a read try to understand what that actually means , before you start to ridicule someone, before you know, talking a load of words that do not make sense.. I am not trading from these charts anyway , I am a fundamentals guy... I already posted that I am an idiot posting this for fun.. but no still not good enough for ya...  

As I have already posted , I put the downside support and pivot levels in place as they could come into play

e.g the price $817 first acted as support , then turns pivot,  the next level of support is $800 and the next level above it is $825  

so in that scenario  as soon as we hit $817  then :  

Resistance level 1=  $825

PIVOT level= $817   - $817 was the support level turned pivot.

Support level 1=  $800


SO the price was stuck there $817 for around 12 hours (now almost 24 hours)  and still has not really traded out of the range  I gave for the  first channel =  of $800 - $817 - $825 ... for 24 hours now - plus I called the pivot of $817 sorry if $817 is not specific enough for you

$817 a key pivot = YUP we have been pivoting around here for 24 hours ish
$800 next support = YUP we have not broken this
$825 Next resistance= YUP we have not broken this.

This is how posting  support and resistance and pivot levels works !!  so my numbers showing the different potential pivot points are actually quite specific...  well very specific , and also the first set of numbers each side of the current price are the 1st most probable figures to be traded around.

Added to that I have stated yesterday that we a trading sideways at around $820-$ 825 , I also stated that I see us going up form here , but that there are downside supports, and I have stated the levels going in both directions that I see resistance and psychological resistance and support...and plus I have explained that this is covering how I see a BREAKOUT as I am basing the figures on FIBBONANCI RETRACEMENTS (a form of TA that I did not invent by the way)  and I say that this is only valid if the breakout occurs now, or within the next few weeks.

So basically  I posted a scenario and so far it  as played out... the "magic price"  could have traded to ANYTHING in the last 24 hours but it has not.

What I was trying to point out is there MAY be some resistance points around fib retracement lines.... so I posted the retracement lines, and their pivot points...  out of interest…  on this price movement and speculation thread..

The reason I posted a  the figure of  $775- $820 for the SIDEWAYS scenario, was just incase we do not get an actualy breakout within the next few weeks.

I am not saying this is going to play out, but I am saying
I did not invent Fibbonanci retracement lines or support levels or resistance levels - it is something I learned about 7 or 8 years ago and have seen it used to very good effect to describe RETRACEMENTS of moves, I have used in the PM market to sucess myelf (sometimes) and seen it used  a lot by old timer traders that have been in the game trading for 30/40 years - I repeat I did not make this up myself, I am just passing it on.
At least I actually speculated and gave specific figures and specific reasons (ie Fib lines, or fiblines intersecting with psychological resistance levels) and I have come and stated it for the world to see, as sstated earlier I can just go back to posting pictures of flying trains... choo choo, my kid likes it when I make the noise.. oh how he loves it,  maybe I shall get him to post (he would probably be as accurate as most here, myself included ; )
 
I may not be nostradamus, but I am not trying to be, just playing out a public experiment- did I mention I am a buyer and a holder of BTC I do not sell at the moment anyway, as I said I am a fundamentals guy at heart… I bought a few years back, and I will sell in 2017-2020 - so I do not need these figures anyway... it was as I say a bit of fun, and I just wanted to use them buzzwords I think.




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February 02, 2014, 01:25:25 PM
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No argument for me..I am expecting up as I say... just noting that the $817 level I pointed out yesterday as being a potential resistance/pivot/support  level has indeed done so for the past 12 hours baring minor dips out but not out of the channels...  I am going to continue to track the pivots and levels I have posted and see how they continue to play out... as a bit o fun

LOL... u guessed 20 numbers between 725-991, added "-ish" to those numbers, called this a "channel" and now claim victory that the price hovered around one of your "-ish" guesses for 3 hours. On top of that you said "i expect it to go up but it could go sideways and here are some lower prices in case it falls."

Quick, sign me up for your newsletter, Nostradamus. Care to give us another $250 range guess in quatrain?

LOL...I think it was just an excuse to write some exceptionally long posts and use lots of TA buzz words.  I for one am most impressed.

Empowering, you shouldn't waste your time here (we just shout out CCMF and other nonsense)...get yourself over to
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400235.0;topicseen
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Ok fair enough will check it out...... thanks
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February 02, 2014, 01:30:25 PM
Last edit: February 14, 2014, 12:59:39 AM by JorgeStolfi
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I would further conjecture that Chinese rallying bulls are active mostly between evening and midnight 23:00, when they go to bed. Then the crashing bears take over and stay up until 02:00 01:00 am.

Unless they are all pump-and-dump werebears (bulls that turn into bears at the hour when the full moon would be at zenith if the moon was full).

EDIT: that's China's local time of course, which I believe is 9 8 hours ahead of UTC.  So 00:00 would be 15:00 16:00 UTC and 02:00 am would be 17:00 18:00 UTC, on the previous date.

EDIT: Fixed local times; China's time is UTC+08:00 not UTC+09:00
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February 02, 2014, 01:34:45 PM
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Bids piling up on stamp, breakout of 825 highly probable.
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February 02, 2014, 01:51:38 PM
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you shouldn't waste your time here (we just shout out CCMF and other nonsense)...get yourself over to
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400235.0;topicseen
Everyone is much more serious there and Risto gives out cigars n port along with a lengthy critique of where you are going wrong  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Wink

I checked it and it seems really helpful.  I just learned for example that if you use a humidor, you should not stick your cigar into the same opening where you poured the water in.

(But what is a "humidor" in Quality Technical Analysis jargon?  A Fibonacci fractal type of choo choo train?)
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February 02, 2014, 01:53:28 PM
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Bids piling up on stamp, breakout of 825 highly probable.

Yes. Something just to happen sometime soon.
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February 02, 2014, 02:06:29 PM
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No argument for me..I am expecting up as I say... just noting that the $817 level I pointed out yesterday as being a potential resistance/pivot/support  level has indeed done so for the past 12 hours baring minor dips out but not out of the channels...  I am going to continue to track the pivots and levels I have posted and see how they continue to play out... as a bit o fun

LOL... u guessed 20 numbers between 725-991, added "-ish" to those numbers, called this a "channel" and now claim victory that the price hovered around one of your "-ish" guesses for 3 hours. On top of that you said "i expect it to go up but it could go sideways and here are some lower prices in case it falls."

Quick, sign me up for your newsletter, Nostradamus. Care to give us another $250 range guess in quatrain?

Oh dear , I am sorry
Thicker skin please.  Welcome to the internet.
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No argument for me..I am expecting up as I say... just noting that the $817 level I pointed out yesterday as being a potential resistance/pivot/support  level has indeed done so for the past 12 hours baring minor dips out but not out of the channels...  I am going to continue to track the pivots and levels I have posted and see how they continue to play out... as a bit o fun

LOL... u guessed 20 numbers between 725-991, added "-ish" to those numbers, called this a "channel" and now claim victory that the price hovered around one of your "-ish" guesses for 3 hours. On top of that you said "i expect it to go up but it could go sideways and here are some lower prices in case it falls."

Quick, sign me up for your newsletter, Nostradamus. Care to give us another $250 range guess in quatrain?

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Thicker skin please.  Welcome to the internet.

Ha ha.. yeah fair play.. good one...you are right... but no worries there I have thick skin, and a thick skull probably too... I guess I am a little cranky in the mornings  Grin  but you know, you contribute, and someone takes a leak on your parade, fair enough tis the internets and all, but at least "get it" before you take a leak all over someones "work"   If what I had posted really was just a guess of somewhere between $725- $991 then actually even that has merit, if it is correct, and I have seen far far far less sound logic here and far larger "misses"  ie "Moon by next month" But as it is I was actually quite specific really, the pivots and the channels of SP and RS on each side of pivot are quite specific,  all I am really saying is lets see if we do bounce around in those channels in this breakout.

We are all here speculating, and having a laugh fair enough , I love a Choo Chooooo MFKR as much as the next guy.
Only reason I posted this was I saw the guy make a very broad prediction two days ago on here, and as I was looking at some fib levels on something else I am trading I thought I would take a look at the BTC charts, and I saw some very strong evidence that the price has in the past and is bouncing around strong fib retracement levels... and a few other key lines (psychological resistance levels at key price points in USD and CNY) now the reason why ? I have a feeling that maybe some of the bots maybe some traders, maybe some Chinese/japanese traders make use of these FIB levels themselves to enter and exit the market, SOME of them, and MAYBE, I know they sure do in the PM markets. I have looked at the graphs, and those potential resistance and support and pivot levels seem like real possabilities based on the price actions so far and going back a good few months. Though a large green or red bar that blows straight 
through the support or res levels would not surprise me either, it is just a potential indicator that I thought I would take a public look at.

I take it with a pinch of salt, but at the same time when you read a chart, carry out an analysis, get some figures out of it, and one of them
as in this case the very first one, gets hit within hours and then the prices stays does indeed pivot around it, then it is , for me interesting, thats all, which is what has happened in this situation... could all turn to shit next, but for me it is intereating that $817 100% got the role of the pivot for 24 hours and the price as I post this is $817.51 , and $800 remains and $825

Yeah I guess maybe I am in one way itching for it to play out bang onto my scenario.. but I was not jumping up and down , preparing a newsletter and subscription service lol but I was posting, for prosperity and as an update... anyway I am rambing now...I have just got up and the 2nd coffee is kicking in.....

  I will continue to see if the pivots and SP/RS levels get hit and maybe post a highly condensed 1 line update or something as they either do or do not get hit (come on, we all know they will probably not get hit, and I will just be wrong, but at least give it a chance and then rip me a new one afterwards  Grin  then you can really take the piss outta me lol !?   but at the end of the day really I dont care I am a long term hodlr and dip buyer...  so what I mean to say of course is CHOOOOOO CHOOOOOOOO1!!!1! 

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February 02, 2014, 02:50:23 PM
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No argument for me..I am expecting up as I say... just noting that the $817 level I pointed out yesterday as being a potential resistance/pivot/support  level has indeed done so for the past 12 hours baring minor dips out but not out of the channels...  I am going to continue to track the pivots and levels I have posted and see how they continue to play out... as a bit o fun

LOL... u guessed 20 numbers between 725-991, added "-ish" to those numbers, called this a "channel" and now claim victory that the price hovered around one of your "-ish" guesses for 3 hours. On top of that you said "i expect it to go up but it could go sideways and here are some lower prices in case it falls."

Quick, sign me up for your newsletter, Nostradamus. Care to give us another $250 range guess in quatrain?

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Thicker skin please.  Welcome to the internet.

I will continue to see if the pivots and SP/RS levels get hit and maybe post a highly condensed 1 line update or something as they either do or do not get hit

Very cool, thanks for sharing. Always appreciate concise TA.  I used to do programming for William O'Neil in the 90's for the institutional investor products so have a long interest in TA, though fundamentals (and news) rule when they are present. 
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you shouldn't waste your time here (we just shout out CCMF and other nonsense)...get yourself over to
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400235.0;topicseen
Everyone is much more serious there and Risto gives out cigars n port along with a lengthy critique of where you are going wrong  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Wink

I checked it and it seems really helpful.  I just learned for example that if you use a humidor, you should not stick your cigar into the same opening where you poured the water in.

(But what is a "humidor" in Quality Technical Analysis jargon?  A Fibonacci fractal type of choo choo train?)

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Bidwall dissapearing on Stamp.
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you shouldn't waste your time here (we just shout out CCMF and other nonsense)...get yourself over to
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400235.0;topicseen
Everyone is much more serious there and Risto gives out cigars n port along with a lengthy critique of where you are going wrong  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Wink

I checked it and it seems really helpful.  I just learned for example that if you use a humidor, you should not stick your cigar into the same opening where you poured the water in.

(But what is a "humidor" in Quality Technical Analysis jargon?  A Fibonacci fractal type of choo choo train?)

 Cheesy

You'll have to ask Risto...it's his gig.

But you'll find he has an answer for most things.
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