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Question: When will BTC get back above $70K:
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January 01, 2019, 10:14:43 PM



just for r0ach
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January 01, 2019, 10:16:45 PM

https://www.prweb.com/releases/institutional_capital_to_spark_bitcoin_rally_starting_january_2nd_according_to_cryptocurrency_investment_firm_sarson_funds/prweb16010314.htm

“On January 2nd, banks will re-open and hedge funds holding on to new deposits will be clear to wire deposits to cryptocurrency exchanges."
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https://lynxartcollection.com/products/bitcoin-propaganda-art-collection-series-1-mounted-canvas-framed

some art for us BTC enthusiasts Grin
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January 01, 2019, 10:17:08 PM

I hate to admit it but today I bought a gold coin.

After 1.5 years of break, this is the first gold I bought.

Gold may see some serious action this year.

Why should you hate to admit it?

I own some gold. And some silver. I see PMs as complementary to Bitcoin. The goals are the same, they are aligned: a hedge against the total fuckery that is the world global fiat-based monetary system.

It doesn't have to be either-or like some people paint it.

Even if I don't have (almost) any silver/gold I completely agree and probably would buy some in the not so distant future. It is just r0ach being a retarded asshole continually trying to compare it to Bitcoin/crypto what has had the effect of creating some repulsion about it around here. It's a pity.
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January 01, 2019, 10:19:59 PM



https://www.coincomments.com/how-to/how-to-protect-yourself-from-pyramid-and-ponzi-schemes/

and just for protection, cause not only storing BTC is MOST important, but falling into ponzi's, pyramid for some newer peoples is important as well

watch out always be safe and best keep it with BTC if you don't understand the market  Wink
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January 01, 2019, 10:20:44 PM

Remember when there were zany pumps all of the time, I has thought we may have seen the last of insane P&D alt runs

This is one of the things that intrigues me most about this year. If BTC goes to sleep, will people turn to alts?

The difference between now and 2015/16 when that was at its peak is that alts subsequently had their moment and delivered fuck all with knobs on. Then again that's probably not going to turn anyone off.
Eth is definitely pumping more often it seems like, i have been margin trading it and seeing it go up more than when only btc increases. People might be getting wild on them altcoin trades.

Yeah, but it also dumps harder... it is just a matter on being on the good side of trade...
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January 01, 2019, 10:30:04 PM

I hate to admit it but today I bought a gold coin.

After 1.5 years of break, this is the first gold I bought.

Gold may see some serious action this year.

Why should you hate to admit it?

I own some gold. And some silver. I see PMs as complementary to Bitcoin. The goals are the same, they are aligned: a hedge against the total fuckery that is the world global fiat-based monetary system.

It doesn't have to be either-or like some people paint it.

plus, you can't build little castles and stonehenges out of BTC

It's nice to have a little wealth to play with.
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January 01, 2019, 10:32:07 PM
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Why do so many pricks have so much BTC.
Ban the pricks from BTC.
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January 01, 2019, 10:33:38 PM


A few beers for this afternoon, guests, of course !!!

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She is just a good girl with a couple of beers. lol

Nobody says, thankssssss for the beerssssssss, VB1001 Wink

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January 01, 2019, 10:35:00 PM

Why do so many pricks have so much BTC.
Ban the pricks from BTC.

i had 1 Smerit left from bones... he said pay it forward, so there it go's
right in front of entering the HODLnest

Grin


and F*** there will always and everywhere be pricks even in here Roll Eyes
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January 01, 2019, 10:56:22 PM
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"Hedge fund managers posses unique insight, into emerging client sentiment and into capital flows that are not yet printed. As a manager of cryptocurrencies with multiple digital asset offerings, we consider orderbook information a key component of our strategies. Firsthand observations of these cryptocurrency orders over time supports our conclusion that Bitcoin's December 2018 price of $3150 is the ultimate low."

Somebody was observing walls and not debating global warming and they noticed the bottom. Cheesy

Absolutely, I have mentioned this previously https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg48779651#msg48779651, and I also believe that low 3000 mark is very much the bottom or close to it. The bitstamp order book is the big tell.
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January 01, 2019, 11:29:06 PM
Last edit: January 01, 2019, 11:42:11 PM by ivomm

Happy New Year! Let the new 2019 be bullish as 2017! In Dec. 2017 just when we reached 20K I had a nightmare  of 5-6 consecutive earthquakes which destroyed my new house, which I could buy with my bitcoins. This turned to be a prophecy, although I didn't take it seriously then. Yesterday, just 1 year after my previous dream, I had a  dream that I bought a green lambo (and I was somewhat dissapointed for its lack of comfort  Wink). I still wonder if the dream means that the next spike will be around my stash equalized to a lambo or to a lambo+house+reserve. Anyway, this would mean that we will have a good year of price well above 10K (and why not above 20K?). #bakkt+etf
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January 01, 2019, 11:32:14 PM

Why do so many pricks have so much BTC.
Ban the pricks from BTC.

i had 1 Smerit left from bones... he said pay it forward, so there it go's
right in front of entering the HODLnest

Grin


and F*** there will always and everywhere be pricks even in here Roll Eyes

I am thinking that most of the big pricks of today are the dickheads that bought in the Nov-Dec 2017 run up and are now fucked by the bearfest of 2018.
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January 01, 2019, 11:44:55 PM

Wait, wait, could these (manipulators) be the real pricks!
Is BTC futures now in control of the horse?

You have to watch this..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jb3YaXnoHQ&t=43s
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January 01, 2019, 11:49:41 PM


I discuss the whole content of that video in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5090244.msg48978949#msg48978949

It is in spanish, but if there is some interest I could translate it.

TLDR: All those potential attack vectors requiere physical access to the device among other things. And even if all requirements would be met (which is already enough negligence on the user part) there are also additional countermeasures for additional security (ie. passphrase).

Not all.




Yes... if you are referring to the RF side-channel attack it also requires physical access to exploit. Please read my post in the thread above and you will see what I mean.

No Habla that thread.

I was referring to the blue have unintentional signals emanating from it that are increased when a usb cable is plugged in to add signal strength and the fact those signals send out screen output. so no there is no possession of the item needed. Although to get the seed/pass/key, I would assume you must be listening upon setup but the pass phase can be got anytime you log in. I'm really not familiar with hardware wallets. I linked the exact time the blue was being torn apart (figuratively and literally).

TL;DR: As you say, It still would need physical access to the device to use/extract the seed. Also, that sort of tiny RF emanations are pretty common and difficult to prevent in many devices and the range and circumstances in which they can be properly recovered are extremely thin. It is an interesting "lab conditions" demo, but not that much practical risk in real life.

Also, Ledger has issued a post about it: https://www.ledger.fr/2018/12/28/chaos-communication-congress-in-response-to-wallet-fails-presentation/

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Arbitrary, same room is enough.


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Untrue that learning baseline can be applied to offsets. and thats just off the top of my head.
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January 01, 2019, 11:56:52 PM


Thanks man, I totally forgot haha!

This year will be strange paying taxes, on 11.2k / BTC (in NL you have to pay 1.2% on the value of your crypto on the first of january of the fiscal year). But not hard to do, I love my country so I have no problem paying some taxes.
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January 01, 2019, 11:59:13 PM

https://twitter.com/fluffypony/status/1080122112935895040

monero does the hippest thing on the planet

doesn't pump lol


Tough to pump without a premine. Wink
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January 02, 2019, 12:00:10 AM

are we all waiting for jan 3rd proof of keys ? Market is boring as hell

Some exchanges will probably block withdrawals.
It will be interesting to see which ones.

EDIT : Hitbtc seems to be one them.
A good reason to ditch them.

HitBtc has been on scam exchange list forever, it's the same guys that started Bytecoin.
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January 02, 2019, 12:04:15 AM

Why do so many pricks have so much BTC.
Ban the pricks from BTC.

Hey, damn it, I resemble that remark?
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January 02, 2019, 12:14:58 AM

Into HODLsleep
Hand in hand with that green bar

Good night WO’s
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