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January 12, 2019, 08:06:30 PM
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Try "transacting" in gold or silver across the world for a good or service. Tally up all the usury 'middle men' fees for courier services, vault storage fees, customs fees, armored car services, boat, plane, armed guards, whatever. WELL over $1000+ for a single transaction, even way higher depending on the amount of PM $$$ involved. MANY people are profiting off of your transaction and getting rich. And many points along the path to destination where your PMs can go "missing".

Do you even listen to your own deluded bullshit you spew, r0ach?


And what about the spread of PM's.... you buy some gold/silver today and you sell it tomorrow to someone else losing like 20%. And that is in ideal circumstances. WTF?!

I like PM's, they did fill some niche in the recent past, but I don't see them in the future at all or maybe just as a way smaller niche.


if I have a printed code.... with the exact amount of BTC on it
then I could transact just as easy as you with your coin in your hand
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All your replies make lots of sense, gentlemen, and we all know they do. Only, the person you address doesn't, or won't ever admit it. What's the use of engaging him on old matters, with old (and valid, I repeat) arguments? We know what comes after that. Rent-seeking validators, joos, decentralization impossible in principle, more ranting. Blacks. Women. Dogs. Spinach. Ok, not dogs and spinach maybe (yet), but you get my point don't you?
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Each block is stacked on top of the previous one. Adding another block to the top makes all lower blocks more difficult to remove: there is more "weight" above each block. A transaction in a block 6 blocks deep (6 confirmations) will be very difficult to remove.
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January 12, 2019, 08:10:09 PM
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Bitcoin is a new emerging asset class

Who actually talks like this?  

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January 12, 2019, 08:20:01 PM

I can think of at least one strong reason why satoshi would like to sow doubt about his existence.

So in your example of a possible scenario he (Satoshi) would come out and pretend to be a total dick to not be outed properly as a genius?

Or perhaps satoshi is a total dick. I mean, why not?

As I recall, the initial outing was not uttered by CSW.

Yes he did, he told various people 'in confidence' and left clues lying around in the hope they would be picked up.

https://www.newyorker.com/business/currency/bizarre-saga-craig-wright-latest-inventor-bitcoin

A particularity dickish thing to do.

Jbear

In your opinion, what are the odds that CSW is Satoshi?

I would be interested in you stating in clear terms what probability you consider this to be true?  I appreciate that certain things may be unknowable with present knowledge, but that is why we assign probabilities.  

So please tell us what is your probability that CSW is Satoshi.  
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January 12, 2019, 08:33:00 PM

https://twitter.com/bechillcomedian/status/888448344896544768
My translation of Edith Piaf's "Non Je Ne Regrette Rien".   #paperpuppetry #thanksforwatching
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January 12, 2019, 08:36:02 PM
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An exception, but a good article on Coindesk. Written by Adam Draper:

I’m As Certain As Ever – Bitcoin’s Revolution Is Only Just Beginning
https://www.coindesk.com/im-as-certain-as-ever-bitcoins-revolution-is-only-just-beginning
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January 12, 2019, 08:38:37 PM

According to coinfairvalue, Bitcoin should be at $7415 right now.
https://www.coinfairvalue.com/



I was going to give you a merit for providing this source, yet when i reviewed the other coins assessed by the source, I see that a very large majority of the other coins listed therein are currently greatly undervalued based on their "utility" criteria. 

Accordingly, even though there is some interesting described values contained therein, gotta take the whole matter with a considerable grain of salt because my overall consideration is that if you give a lot of weight to sound money, then the utility of bitcoin should become immensely distinguishable from almost all other coins on that they list on that site.

Is Monero's value the one that "bothers" you the most ?
I heard about the issues with this one.
There's a topic on reddit about it :
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/9m88px/according_to_httpscoinfairvaluecom_monero_is/

But yeah, there is an "uncertainty" % for each coin and for Monero it's about 80%. They recently changed that value for some of the coins actually.
These are the criterias they use to give what they call a "fair value".
https://www.coinfairvalue.com/reference/

So yeah, a grain of salt is definitely necessary here.
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January 12, 2019, 08:47:29 PM

So please tell us what is your probability that CSW is Satoshi.  

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https://www.gate.io/article/16740
https://twitter.com/AnselLindner/status/1084163451432435712
theory on who attacked etc
whoever it was seems to have returned some of the money
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January 12, 2019, 08:54:38 PM

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Didn’t use the whiskey tasting set yet, but gonna try already one
Which one to take
@BTCMILIONAIRE ??
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January 12, 2019, 08:57:37 PM

According to coinfairvalue, Bitcoin should be at $7415 right now.
https://www.coinfairvalue.com/



I was going to give you a merit for providing this source, yet when i reviewed the other coins assessed by the source, I see that a very large majority of the other coins listed therein are currently greatly undervalued based on their "utility" criteria. 

Accordingly, even though there is some interesting described values contained therein, gotta take the whole matter with a considerable grain of salt because my overall consideration is that if you give a lot of weight to sound money, then the utility of bitcoin should become immensely distinguishable from almost all other coins on that they list on that site.

Is Monero's value the one that "bothers" you the most ?
I heard about the issues with this one.
There's a topic on reddit about it :
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/9m88px/according_to_httpscoinfairvaluecom_monero_is/

But yeah, there is an "uncertainty" % for each coin and for Monero it's about 80%. They recently changed that value for some of the coins actually.
These are the criterias they use to give what they call a "fair value".
https://www.coinfairvalue.com/reference/

So yeah, a grain of salt is definitely necessary here.

I did notice the over valuation given to Monero, but I also noticed that a lot of shitcoins were described as undervalued.  In other words, I was not just going by the Monero assessment.
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January 12, 2019, 08:58:08 PM

Too funny. Trumps wants to appoint Ivanka as head of the World Bank

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jan/12/ivanka-trump-world-bank-donald-trump-report
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January 12, 2019, 09:08:27 PM
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Too funny. Trumps wants to appoint Ivanka as head of the World Bank

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jan/12/ivanka-trump-world-bank-donald-trump-report

She can be appointed head of my wank bank



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January 12, 2019, 09:12:36 PM

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Have a good saturday
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Be a coiner

CHEERS

Missing BOB btw just saying

bonne appétit
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January 12, 2019, 09:15:02 PM

Too funny. Trumps wants to appoint Ivanka as head of the World Bank

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jan/12/ivanka-trump-world-bank-donald-trump-report

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Maybe if you could put a gag in her mouth so you wouldn't have to hear her.

And a bag on the head so you wouldn't have to see her face. Then maybe.
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January 12, 2019, 09:16:35 PM

Too funny. Trumps wants to appoint Ivanka as head of the World Bank

I think after he gets out of jail Donald is going to elope with her to Novaya Zemlya where they open an American diner serving Russian air force pilots and have as many kids as possible before he dies.

Putin will craft a special law allowing them to marry each other as long as they stay above the Arctic Circle.
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January 12, 2019, 09:19:07 PM
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+1 (this merit thing is starting to get annoying for WO leechers)

send him yours Smiley

especially you with that pacman avatar

why isn't that on a HAT yet ??

 It would probably be too small in the patch plus he can't part with his avatar.




OK Homer, I capitulate. If you somehow manage a themed hat I will wear it with pride.



Tempted to buy some, but I told myself for the first time to be disciplined and stick to a limit order 10% below ATL.
Perhaps the sign of the bottom reached, is actually myself. Let's see, happy either way.

 Pac man proved to be a tough caP, man!



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Hope it fits.




You sir are an artist, very creatively done. It is almost a shame the avatar is so small, love the trail covering the hat.
Thanks! And have my last merits please.


donated ONE for bitebits as well Smiley

Thanks Smiley

 Thanks for the compliment but all the art that will ever appear on the hat is already in the hat; I just have to change the colour of a few pixels to make it appear.



 I am my own worst critic.  I would like to offer an alternative to the Pac caP; I think the trails show up better on this one.



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 I am my own worst critic.  I would like to offer an alternative to the Pac caP; I think the trails show up better on this one.



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I’m a gamer, so seeing this almost gave me hat envy lol  Cheesy

Great work as always xhomerx10
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January 12, 2019, 09:35:09 PM

Any chance this could explain the recent drop ?
A few days ago a lawyer spread the rumor that the VanEck and SolidX ETF would have to be accepted by default if the shutdown was still effective by Feb. 28 th as it can't be pushed back any further.
But another lawyer (Jake Chervinsky, a Washington-based securities lawyer) said the exact opposite right after.

https://twitter.com/jchervinsky/status/1081798902737702912

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January 12, 2019, 09:59:12 PM
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don't give a fuck about ETFs, Bakkt and shit. they're the ones begging to be let into this bitcoin business, and i'd let them squirm for eternity if i was the one deciding to let them in. the truth is, it's the institutions that are going to get a boost on crypto's back, not the other way around. the floodgates have been opened, the wooden horse is already within the walls of Troy, the virus has spread. bitcoin doesn't need them, they're the ones who need it simply to stay relevant.
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January 12, 2019, 10:08:33 PM

Too funny. Trumps wants to appoint Ivanka as head of the World Bank

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jan/12/ivanka-trump-world-bank-donald-trump-report

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Thats some acceptable fuck material no matter who she is.
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