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[realr0ach]

https://dailystormer.name/gillette-metoo-ad-criticizing-toxic-masculinity-gets-downvoted-to-hell-on-youtube/

[JayJuanGee]

Some events, Bitcoin, Blockchain and Crypto.

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Event							Location		    Date	    	Country
						
CES Las Vegas 						Las Vegas		Jan 08, 2019		US
Blockchain Connect 					San Francisco		Jan 11, 2019		US
UNLOCK Blockchain					Dubai			Jan 15, 2019		Arab Emirates
North American Bitcoin Conference 			Miami			Jan 16, 2019		Arab Emirates
Binance Blockchain Week					Singapore		Jan 19, 2019		Singapur
Bitcoin: 10 Years (2009 - 2019) Bitcoin City		Arnhem			Jan 20, 2019		Netherlands
2nd Annual CHAINERS Blockchain Week			Seoul			Jan 23, 2019		South Korea
Crypto Pro Expo						San Francisco		Jan 29, 2019		US
Japan Blockchain Conference				Yokohama		Jan 30, 2019		Japan
Blockchain & Automated IT for Government Summit		Arlington		Jan 31, 2019		US
Wall Street Blockchain Summit				New York		Jan 31, 2019		US
							
Advancing Bitcoin					London			Feb 07, 2019		United Kingdom
Blockchain in Oil and Gas Canada 			Calgary			Feb 12, 2019		Canada
Blockchain Economy Istanbul Summit			Istanbul		Feb 20, 2019		Turkey
							
Fintech Week Tel Aviv 					Tel Aviv		Mar 04, 2019		Israel
DC Blockchain Summit 					Washington, DC		Mar 06, 2019		US
Cryptocurrency World Expo Zug, Summit			Switzerland		Mar 08, 2019		Switzerland
Asia Crypto Week					Hong Kong		Mar 11, 2019		China
Shared Services & Outsourcing Week			Orlando			Mar 11, 2019		US
Blockchain Technology World				London			Mar 12, 2019		United Kingdom
TOKEN2049						Hong Kong		Mar 13, 2019		China
Money20/20 Asia	Singapore				Singapore		Mar 19, 2019		Singapur
Mallorca Blockchain Days				Mallorca		Mar 22, 2019		Spain
							
Blockchain Summit Austria				Vienna			Apr 02, 2019		Austria
CryptoBlockCon, Los Angeles				Los Angeles		Apr 03, 2019		US
LendIt Fintech USA 					San Francisco		Apr 08, 2019		US
Seamless Middle East 					Dubai			Apr 10, 2019		Arab Emirates
Stockholm Blockchain Forum				Stockholm		Apr 11, 2019		Sweden
Paris Blockchain Week					Paris			Apr 16, 2019		France
Blockchain Life Asia					Singapore		Apr 23, 2019		Singapore
Blockchain Expo Global 					London			Apr 25, 2019		United Kingdom
European Payment Summit 				The Hague		Apr 26, 2019		Netherlands
							
Malta Blockchain Summit 				Malta			May 23, 2019		Malta
							
Token Fest - The Business of Blockchain			Tel Aviv		Jun 03, 2019		Israel
CoinsBank Blockchain Cruise				Barcelona		Jun 09, 2019		Spain
UNCHAIN, Berlin						Germany			Jun 13, 2019		Germany
Blockchain Expo Europe					Amsterdam		Jun 19, 2019		Netherlands

Did you compile this list yourself?  What were your sources?

[Torque]

So I guess people believe that as long as a crypto is secure, scales, has a good wallet, can run a node, and runs on good hardware, then....

....it really doesn't NEED TO HAVE ANY PURPOSE FOR EXISTING BEYOND THOSE THINGS TO BE A SUCCESS??

Are you guys for real? Those are all just technical details, that can be easily cloned and replicated with the click of a mouse.

I don't understand why you, Torque, have this tendency to describe some general point of view, and than attribute such point of view to "you guys."  

Is this just an ongoing figure of speech of yours, or are you always engaging in such generalization fallacies in your way of thinking about matters?  

As if you are the only person that has any original perspective, and all other thoughts fall into a glob of "you guys think?"   Or a Straw man, way of presentation?

They know who they are JJG. Obviously not you. Unless you secretly think the shitcoins du jour have any purpose for existing or real world value, in which, I'd be glad to debate that with you.

ETH's "valid use case" today is it's facilitation of scams (including ICOs), so whether we like it or not, ETH has a "valid" (even though scam dependent) "today use case," no?

Sorry but no. To facilitate scams is not a value-add purpose for existing. That's total bullshit.

[JayJuanGee]

Im nowhere on the centralised trustles default pseudo trustlist (2nd layer)

my name is mud

I don't know how it exactly works, but I have you in my white trustbox if that is worth anything

yeah, the whole "trust" thing seems very opaque to me

I did add FlensGold to my white box as he is the one member that ever had the opportunity to steal from me and didn't.

when someone has a clear chance of stealing, and does not steal.... yeah that earns trust
 

Credit where it is due but... except people behaviour may change depending on the circumstances. Never forget that.

Never trust anyone that have nothing to lose and much to gain by cheating you.

Don't trust, verify.

P.S.: Also, the fact that someone is trustable doesn't mean his criteria about other people trust may be correct. In fact it is usually the contrary.

Sometimes there can be a longcon going on, too (which might be your reference, bitserve?), and in that regard, there would be several small opportunities to steal that are not realized, but result in a BIG stealing event that comes later on down the line.  It seems that there have been quite a few longcon examples that have taken place in bitcoin, bitcointalk and crypto... which boils down to guys (and perhaps gal?) building up confidence over time, and then later running off with the funds in an exit scam.

[El duderino_]

https://twitter.com/stormXBT/status/1085228950861893633

latest RUSSIA NEWS straight from the head itself

[realr0ach]

Unless you secretly think the shitcoins du jour have any purpose for existing or real world value, in which, I'd be glad to debate that with you.

Every single craptocurrency is the same Torque.  Stop pretending there's a difference between any of them.  They're ALL designed to centralize garbage.  The only thing Bitcoin should be evaluated on is:  DOES PoW do anything useful at all?  The answer is NO.  It fails miserably.  And every PoW alternative is even worse.  If the consensus mechanism is a complete failure and centralized immediately after release, what's left over?  Nothing.  Just a linked list.

[El duderino_]

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-15/bnp-trader-suffers-80-million-loss-after-putting-wrong-trade-then-leaving-vacation

BNP workers

[gembitz]

 

weeeee

[Last of the V8s]

ETH fork delayed due to a security flaw found by an external team

eth dev chatroom

https://twitter.com/coindesk/status/1085270367600558080?s=19

https://twitter.com/TheBlock__/status/1085268712297558022

[gembitz]

ETH fork delayed due to a security flaw found by an external team - links abound

ETH carnage from 'topia ...coins moving gogogoooo

[cAPSLOCK]

Im nowhere on the centralised trustles default pseudo trustlist (2nd layer)

my name is mud

Yeah... It's funny.  Not possible for me to care less about it.  I doubt I have any rating at all?  But I have not even looked.

[El duderino_]

got the poll very wrong




^

[El duderino_]

red is getting MOAR red@ the moment

[yefi]

Did you account for air drag, or did you only consider gravitational acceleration?

I took an average pebble out my garden. It weighs 10 grams and has a mean diameter of about 20 mm. If we assume it were perfectly spherical with a drag coefficient of 0.47, travelling through air with standard density of 1.225 kg/m^3, and plug the figures into the formula for terminal velocity we get: sqrt((2*0.01*9.81)/(1.225*(3.14*0.01^2)*0.47)) = 33 m/s or 119 km/h. If we pipe that into E = 1/2*m*v^2 for energy, we get ~5.5 J or ~4 ft-lb.

Or in other words, I need Bitcoin to do something exciting.

[Wekkel]

got the poll very wrong

I was too optimistic as well. But not too optimistic. Basically, it's a sideways affair now. Probably for a longer time than we wish  

[JayJuanGee]

Last year I was a millionaire (in dollars).

means that you had (or perhaps have?) more than 53 (in bitcoins)

hahaha, I like how you always like to make people recognise how many BTC they do have. As a penalty I will say my educated guess is that you have, with a high degree of certainty, an amount between 40 and 150 BTC. And, if I had to guess the exact amount, I would say around 60 right now... including alt/shitcoins and trading fiat.

Of course this is all just my own speculation with absolutely no factual resemblance to reality.

P.S.: I have less than that... and that is a FACT.

Hey... These are not baaaaad discussion points, right?  

Take with a grain of salt, any representations regarding amount of bitcoin that you believe wo participants have, including yours truly, and surely if a member makes some kind of assertion such as: " I used to be a millionaire, but now I am not" then there is a certain amount of personal disclosure that has already taken place with that post.  So, in that regard, the person has either wittingly or not opened him/her/itself up for further scrutiny (or elaboration on such topic).

I used to be a bit more revealing in some of my personal bitcoin/altcoin and fiat holding/accumulation details, but I think that I have become a bit better at more obscurity - even though from time to time, I do conclude that some personal disclosure(s) is(are) necessary in order to make certain points in an "at stake" way, rather than pure pie in the sky speculation.  

To the extent that it matters to points raised in this line of thought, I will neither confirm nor deny whether you are in the ballpark regarding my "exact amount,"  but I still don't mind such discussion.  Remember towards the end of 2017 and through a decent portion of 2018, there were a lot of posters speculating on how they were going to spend their free-time in the upcoming years and whether a Lambo was going to be part of their future.  Surely, some of those discussions have become less prevalent, but I still believe that the price performance of bitcoin in late 2017 allowed me to have some more freedom in making certain financial decisions and even expedited some of my push towards closing down my business - which took place at the end of 2018 - even though I have some ongoing wrapping up that I am still doing  - progress is being made - which includes more location independence for me, as scary (and seemingly slow progress) as that can be sometimes.

Last year I was a millionaire (in dollars).

means that you had (or perhaps have?) more than 53 (in bitcoins)

hahaha, I like how you always like to make people recognise how many BTC they do have. As a penalty I will say my educated guess is that you have, with a high degree of certainty, an amount between 40 and 150 BTC. And, if I had to guess the exact amount, I would say around 60 right now... including alt/shitcoins and trading fiat.

Of course this is all just my own speculation with absolutely no factual resemblance to reality.

P.S.: I have less than that... and that is a FACT.

thats a guess on who of those 2?

On JJG of course, because he is always trying to make other people say it


Again... I might be perfectly wrong. If I *really* knew it, I would say NOTHING.

I would take issue with the characterization:  "he is always trying to make other people say it."   If I fish through my memories, it seems that I am merely following through with a topic that has already been opened by the poster, and frequently, personal holdings, strategies
 and balancing of various competing interests remains an interesting topic for me.  Therefore, if some WO poster mentions a topic of interest, then I don't mind exploring such topic further; especially, if I believe such poster is making genuine representations.  On the other hand, sometimes posters might be making shit up, and a few probing questions will reveal that they are not really dealing with actual personal considerations, and instead trolling us. 

[El duderino_]

got the poll very wrong

I was too optimistic as well. But not too optimistic. Basically, it's a sideways affair now. Probably for a longer time than we wish  

I wasn't the +5000... but 4600 was also way to bullish

F*** sideways, thats truly the most boring time in crypto

[bitserve]

Did you account for air drag, or did you only consider gravitational acceleration?

I took an average pebble out my garden. It weighs 10 grams and has a mean diameter of about 20 mm. If we assume it were perfectly spherical with a drag coefficient of 0.47, travelling through air with standard density of 1.225 kg/m^3, and plug the figures into the formula for terminal velocity we get: sqrt((2*0.01*9.81)/(1.225*(3.14*0.01^2)*0.47)) = 33 m/s or 119 km/h. If we pipe that into E = 1/2*m*v^2 for energy, we get ~5.5 J or ~4 ft-lb.

Or in other words, I need Bitcoin to do something exciting.

Perfectly spherical bullets are way different to regular bullets that end up tumbling as soon as they lose the rotational speed with a way higher air drag.

Much of the penetration of a regular gunshot is thanks to its rotational speed. That's why pipeguns are not that effective, even at very short distance, unless properly directed against unprotected vital points (neck, eyes, temple, etc).

To the mooooooon!!! weeeeeeeeee

[Toxic2040]

Did you account for air drag, or did you only consider gravitational acceleration?

I took an average pebble out my garden. It weighs 10 grams and has a mean diameter of about 20 mm. If we assume it were perfectly spherical with a drag coefficient of 0.47, travelling through air with standard density of 1.225 kg/m^3, and plug the figures into the formula for terminal velocity we get: sqrt((2*0.01*9.81)/(1.225*(3.14*0.01^2)*0.47)) = 33 m/s or 119 km/h. If we pipe that into E = 1/2*m*v^2 for energy, we get ~5.5 J or ~4 ft-lb.

Or in other words, I need Bitcoin to do something exciting.

+1 WOsMerit

[El duderino_]

Did you account for air drag, or did you only consider gravitational acceleration?

I took an average pebble out my garden. It weighs 10 grams and has a mean diameter of about 20 mm. If we assume it were perfectly spherical with a drag coefficient of 0.47, travelling through air with standard density of 1.225 kg/m^3, and plug the figures into the formula for terminal velocity we get: sqrt((2*0.01*9.81)/(1.225*(3.14*0.01^2)*0.47)) = 33 m/s or 119 km/h. If we pipe that into E = 1/2*m*v^2 for energy, we get ~5.5 J or ~4 ft-lb.

Or in other words, I need Bitcoin to do something exciting.

Perfectly spherical bullets are way different to regular bullets that end up tumbling as soon as they lose the rotational speed with a way higher air drag.

Much of the penetration of a regular gunshot is thanks to its rotational speed. That's why pipeguns are not that effective, even at very short distance, unless properly directed against unprotected vital points (neck, eyes, temple, etc).

To the mooooooon!!! weeeeeeeeee

^NOW!!