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Question: Price Target for Nov. 30, 2024:
<$75K - 2 (3.1%)
$75K to $80K - 1 (1.6%)
$80K to $85K - 2 (3.1%)
$85K to $90K - 7 (10.9%)
$90K to $95K - 12 (18.8%)
$95K to $100K - 11 (17.2%)
>$100K - 29 (45.3%)
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February 19, 2019, 08:49:12 AM

$300 for a raspi and an HDD!?!?!  son of a bitch, I'm in the wrong business
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I've been strongly considering buying one of the new easy-mode LN devices like the Casa Hodl.

suggest research the nodl https://www.nodl.it/
more money but more features and more to come


Anyone here have one of those casa hodl nodes?

I mean, what is stopping to replicate the software and run it on your own raspi+hdd?

Does it include some state of the art proprietary software like a gui/menu system for easy management or what?

I am ok with business doing business, of course, but I am surprised anyone haven't already come with a full free software implementation otherwise the premium for the convenience of a "ready-to-go" device wouldn't be so high.

casa already released the code, didn't they? https://blog.keys.casa/open-sourcing-the-casa-node/
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February 19, 2019, 08:56:08 AM

$300 for a raspi and an HDD!?!?!  son of a bitch, I'm in the wrong business
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I've been strongly considering buying one of the new easy-mode LN devices like the Casa Hodl.

suggest research the nodl https://www.nodl.it/
more money but more features and more to come


That looks sweet. I am not a techie so LN has looked too much set up thus far, but this looks 'turnkey' enough for my tastes - plus it's a full BTC node, so I do my bit for the network.

On my wish list, will wait until it's not three weeks delivery (which implies stocks are low / out of stock).



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February 19, 2019, 09:04:35 AM

$300 for a raspi and an HDD!?!?!  son of a bitch, I'm in the wrong business
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I've been strongly considering buying one of the new easy-mode LN devices like the Casa Hodl.

suggest research the nodl https://www.nodl.it/
more money but more features and more to come


Anyone here have one of those casa hodl nodes?

I mean, what is stopping to replicate the software and run it on your own raspi+hdd?

Does it include some state of the art proprietary software like a gui/menu system for easy management or what?

I am ok with business doing business, of course, but I am surprised anyone haven't already come with a full free software implementation otherwise the premium for the convenience of a "ready-to-go" device wouldn't be so high.

casa already released the code, didn't they? https://blog.keys.casa/open-sourcing-the-casa-node/

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In order to improve security for Casa customers we plan to open source as much of our trust-critical code as possible.

As a first big step, today we are open sourcing the code for the Casa Node. We are also announcing the first parts of a responsible disclosure and bug bounty program.

It looks like that "open sourcing" is something relatively recent starting two weeks ago and also that it is not clear if it will include ALL software. That would explain the current premium.
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February 19, 2019, 09:12:48 AM
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The only way too lose money buying in the $3000's is by not HODLING long enough. Any downside to $2000 - $4000 range will look like perfect entry on the chart 2 years from now. Write this down.

https://twitter.com/22loops/status/1097660571078529024?s=21
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February 19, 2019, 09:16:04 AM

Going to break 4k, are we?

Didn't we already do that a month or so ago?
I fail to see the wow factor in that, just normal volatility.
It's because we're showing more evidence of it reversing.

Nah, it's too early for that, we have several more months sideways to look forward to.
I'll be glad if I'm wrong, but I'm probably not.

I would say you are both right and wrong Wink

We have bottomed and yes we have several more months of sideways.

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I would say you are both right and wrong.

You are right about the sideways.

But there's plenty of room yet for a stab down to the dark side.

I'd even prefer it that way.

I'll bet you a litecoin?

I will take it if Hairy won't.

I will wager 1 LTC we have already seen the bottom of this bear market.  That is, it will not go lower than 3122.

Suggest period of wager is until Dec 31 2019, or we go over 7500 on Stamp in USD (or under 3122) - whichever is sooner?

Edited for clarity.
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February 19, 2019, 09:20:18 AM

Going to break 4k, are we?

Didn't we already do that a month or so ago?
I fail to see the wow factor in that, just normal volatility.
It's because we're showing more evidence of it reversing.

Nah, it's too early for that, we have several more months sideways to look forward to.
I'll be glad if I'm wrong, but I'm probably not.

I would say you are both right and wrong Wink

We have bottomed and yes we have several more months of sideways.

pish tosh

I would say you are both right and wrong.

You are right about the sideways.

But there's plenty of room yet for a stab down to the dark side.

I'd even prefer it that way.

I'll bet you a litecoin?

I will take it if Hairy won't.

I will wager 1 LTC we have already seen the bottom of this bear market.  That is, it will not go lower than 3122.

Suggest period of wager is until Dec 31 2019, or we go over 7500 on Stamp in USD (or under 3122) - whichever is sooner?

Edited for clarity!

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February 19, 2019, 09:21:15 AM

~megasnip

I don’t know whether it somehow affected the price of BTC, but now I only want to wear a hat much more . Roll Eyes

Sunglasses would look nice on this avatar.. even though maybe a bit difficult to see... like those sunglasses in sample 3.
Yes, I think they would match Rocket.

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Oh yeeeaah! Cheesy It looks awesome !! Cool
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February 19, 2019, 09:23:32 AM

You can now send Bitcoin tips over Lightning on Twitter Smiley

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the beta app Tippin has released a new Chrome Extension available to Google browser users. Over Twitter, app users can send bitcoin payments via the Lightning Network, considered a way to make bitcoin transactions feasible at a large scale for the first time

https://www.coindesk.com/you-can-now-send-bitcoin-tips-over-lightning-on-twitter


Jack dorsey does not fuck around... whoaza... that was quick.

That is exactly the incentive I need to set up an LN node.  

I've been strongly considering buying one of the new easy-mode LN devices like the Casa Hodl.

just do it. every WO hat should run a lightning node. I ordered mine last week. was considering to publicly announce that everytime a fuckin´big blocker posts in the WO thread I will order a casa node.

Yeh lets abandon the Bitcoin Network and jump on xrp version 2 lightning network (LN) instead. Bitcoin Network no longer needed, lets just stop legacy support now and and its done with it.  Mining, a proven way of work done, and given value to Bitcoin, lets deviate from it.

Yes.. you are speculating to the extreme by arguing a supposed scenario that is NOT happening.  The existence of lightning and support for its transactions does not result in the disappearance of the main btc blockchain nor the negation of incentives on the main blockchain.
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February 19, 2019, 09:30:01 AM

Going to break 4k, are we?

Didn't we already do that a month or so ago?
I fail to see the wow factor in that, just normal volatility.
It's because we're showing more evidence of it reversing.

Nah, it's too early for that, we have several more months sideways to look forward to.
I'll be glad if I'm wrong, but I'm probably not.

I would say you are both right and wrong Wink

We have bottomed and yes we have several more months of sideways.

pish tosh

I would say you are both right and wrong.

You are right about the sideways.

But there's plenty of room yet for a stab down to the dark side.

I'd even prefer it that way.

I'll bet you a litecoin?

I will take it if Hairy won't.

I will wager 1 LTC we have already seen the bottom of this bear market.  That is, it will not go lower than 3122.

Suggest period of wager is until Dec 31 2019, or we go over 7500 on Stamp in USD (or under 3122) - whichever is sooner?

Edited for clarity.

Nice asymmetrical bet you made there as the value of LTC is highly dependant on those of BTC Smiley

Not that either of you are gonna get rich on the bet though lol
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February 19, 2019, 09:38:38 AM

The next 24 hours are critical as always. If we keep the momentum, a breakout above 4K  is possible. This will comfirm that we are in a bull market. Longs are pretty high and shorts are low. The support down to $3K is double than the previous 2 weeks - in BFX went from 6K to 11.2K BTC. We didn't have a rise this week, so a breakout is more probable than a long squeeze.  We shall see.

OK, I don't want to brag with my trading skills, but this was a precise hit! Btw, I always like to watch BFX price - it is more bullish than Bearstamp. And we just broke 4K on BFX!!!
They're always $100+ aren't they fake news and a risky exchange to use?

Of course they are risky. I trust only kraken and CB for fiat withrawals. But the fact is that BFX starts almost all pumps and it is more fun to watch than the dull Bearstamp.

We don't watch Bitstamp because of the "fun" or the "no fun," but instead for a desire to attempt to stay in the real world rather than in fantasylandia.
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February 19, 2019, 09:52:53 AM

The next 24 hours are critical as always. If we keep the momentum, a breakout above 4K  is possible. This will comfirm that we are in a bull market. Longs are pretty high and shorts are low. The support down to $3K is double than the previous 2 weeks - in BFX went from 6K to 11.2K BTC. We didn't have a rise this week, so a breakout is more probable than a long squeeze.  We shall see.

OK, I don't want to brag with my trading skills, but this was a precise hit! Btw, I always like to watch BFX price - it is more bullish than Bearstamp. And we just broke 4K on BFX!!!
They're always $100+ aren't they fake news and a risky exchange to use?

Of course they are risky. I trust only kraken and CB for fiat withrawals. But the fact is that BFX starts almost all pumps and it is more fun to watch than the dull Bearstamp.

You know what would be fun? Making tons of money with arbitrage. The theory is simple: BFX BTCUSD price is constantly 2-3% higher.

I wonder why no one takes the advantage of this sweet deal...
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February 19, 2019, 10:05:08 AM

The next 24 hours are critical as always. If we keep the momentum, a breakout above 4K  is possible. This will comfirm that we are in a bull market. Longs are pretty high and shorts are low. The support down to $3K is double than the previous 2 weeks - in BFX went from 6K to 11.2K BTC. We didn't have a rise this week, so a breakout is more probable than a long squeeze.  We shall see.

OK, I don't want to brag with my trading skills, but this was a precise hit! Btw, I always like to watch BFX price - it is more bullish than Bearstamp. And we just broke 4K on BFX!!!
They're always $100+ aren't they fake news and a risky exchange to use?

Of course they are risky. I trust only kraken and CB for fiat withrawals. But the fact is that BFX starts almost all pumps and it is more fun to watch than the dull Bearstamp.

We don't watch Bitstamp because of the "fun" or the "no fun," but instead for a desire to attempt to stay in the real world rather than in fantasylandia.

I mean if the rate is real and you can actualy sell BTC at that price why it's a fantasy?
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February 19, 2019, 10:05:58 AM

The next 24 hours are critical as always. If we keep the momentum, a breakout above 4K  is possible. This will comfirm that we are in a bull market. Longs are pretty high and shorts are low. The support down to $3K is double than the previous 2 weeks - in BFX went from 6K to 11.2K BTC. We didn't have a rise this week, so a breakout is more probable than a long squeeze.  We shall see.

OK, I don't want to brag with my trading skills, but this was a precise hit! Btw, I always like to watch BFX price - it is more bullish than Bearstamp. And we just broke 4K on BFX!!!
They're always $100+ aren't they fake news and a risky exchange to use?

Of course they are risky. I trust only kraken and CB for fiat withrawals. But the fact is that BFX starts almost all pumps and it is more fun to watch than the dull Bearstamp.

We don't watch Bitstamp because of the "fun" or the "no fun," but instead for a desire to attempt to stay in the real world rather than in fantasylandia.

I mean if the rate is real and you can actualy sell BTC at that price why it's a fantasy?

Because you can't sell it for REAL USD that you can properly withdraw to your bank account.
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February 19, 2019, 10:20:48 AM

Sunglasses would look nice on this avatar.. even though maybe a bit difficult to see... like those sunglasses in sample 3.
Yes, I think they would match Rocket.

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Personally, I like the "with sunglasses" better, but I might be a minority in terms of my aesthetics.

Of course, choice would be for StartupAnalyst ... and only a few more points away...  Shocked
+1 WO`s Merit. I thank you for taking part in creating the perfect hat for me. Roll Eyes
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February 19, 2019, 10:27:50 AM

the localbitcoin spike for the USD market was a flaw Sad

this is how it looks today:

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The spike for Indonesia is still there. Undecided
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February 19, 2019, 10:34:06 AM

The next 24 hours are critical as always. If we keep the momentum, a breakout above 4K  is possible. This will comfirm that we are in a bull market. Longs are pretty high and shorts are low. The support down to $3K is double than the previous 2 weeks - in BFX went from 6K to 11.2K BTC. We didn't have a rise this week, so a breakout is more probable than a long squeeze.  We shall see.

OK, I don't want to brag with my trading skills, but this was a precise hit! Btw, I always like to watch BFX price - it is more bullish than Bearstamp. And we just broke 4K on BFX!!!
They're always $100+ aren't they fake news and a risky exchange to use?

Of course they are risky. I trust only kraken and CB for fiat withrawals. But the fact is that BFX starts almost all pumps and it is more fun to watch than the dull Bearstamp.

We don't watch Bitstamp because of the "fun" or the "no fun," but instead for a desire to attempt to stay in the real world rather than in fantasylandia.

I mean if the rate is real and you can actualy sell BTC at that price why it's a fantasy?

Because you can't sell it for REAL USD that you can properly withdraw to your bank account.

Never used BF myself but I presume you're wrong: https://support.bitfinex.com/hc/en-us/articles/213919309-Fiat-Withdrawal-Processing
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February 19, 2019, 10:37:38 AM

For anyone interested in a bitcoin and lightning node I can recommend this one. Doesn't take long to setup and fairly cheap. I already had a hdd and SD card so that saved me some money, and you don't really need the LCD screen either.

https://github.com/rootzoll/raspiblitz


Also, looks like a mini H&S on the chart, target to 3700 - 3750 if it pans out.
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February 19, 2019, 10:54:42 AM
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Analyst Mati Greenspan from eToro points to a positive correlation between popular cryptocurrencies and BTC. In some cases, the coefficient reaches 0.8, which is a lot. From this it follows that the bearish trend is still not in a hurry to end. Cry
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February 19, 2019, 11:02:05 AM

Going to break 4k, are we?

Didn't we already do that a month or so ago?
I fail to see the wow factor in that, just normal volatility.
It's because we're showing more evidence of it reversing.

Nah, it's too early for that, we have several more months sideways to look forward to.
I'll be glad if I'm wrong, but I'm probably not.

I would say you are both right and wrong Wink

We have bottomed and yes we have several more months of sideways.

pish tosh

I would say you are both right and wrong.

You are right about the sideways.

But there's plenty of room yet for a stab down to the dark side.

I'd even prefer it that way.

I'll bet you a litecoin?

I will take it if Hairy won't.

I will wager 1 LTC we have already seen the bottom of this bear market.  That is, it will not go lower than 3122.

Suggest period of wager is until Dec 31 2019, or we go over 7500 on Stamp in USD (or under 3122) - whichever is sooner?

Edited for clarity.

I will take the bet of 1 LTC that the bottom was $3122 on above terms or whatever else makes sense!
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