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[El duderino_]

@Kurious, i’m also more in for a more let say “Lounge style”  room/place where everyone can walk and talk with each other, like a Nice room/resto booked with sofa’s and tables, could also be a beach or whatever but something where we can really meet as how Kurious just Said....

The ones that are willing to do real crazy can talk there and continue as when we are all there we can start and talk a yearly meet up or something always hosted at another country or whatever...

Just the first meet up is most important and Will be the first brick layed down of building something NEW

Imo it has to be civilized for every single one that comes...

Also Someone can make a WO thread to just discuss the WO party thing?
To make fist things first etc.....

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[Totscha]

Hi Lambie -
Multi-paties and all are fine, no problem with that.  However, whether it's one or many parties - organising anything within a week or so of breaking an arbitrary figure in price is at the very least difficult.  Just booking things up and people dropping everything to book a flight to get there means it is tough to see how it would work.

Fixing a date (based on Halvening, say?) and finding out well in advance how many takers there are makes it more feasible to set up, I would have thought.  Shoot me down, by all means - but people have lives and need to plan in advance - even decent hotels, restaurants etc are best booked in advance, surely...  Not many people will put a deposit down for a party on an unknown future date.  So how would you know numbers in order to book anything?

Also, for me and maybe I am not alone (I have no idea) I am not really up for hookers and blow. Never have been for the former, have weaned myself off the latter...  Call me a party pooper, if you like, but don't get me wrong; I do like the the idea of a party and a chance to meet people I have share the ups and downs with for years.  I also know some will head for the hookers and blow - and good luck to them, if they do - but I hope that is not all it is about. If there was a choice, I would be opting for beers and a chat.

Lastly, I might also like to explore a city and meet new friends with my partner in town with me. I may be alone in having this as a preference of course - but if it raises eyebrows to suggest this, I will just have to wait and hear tales of what I missed out on.

Edit: Some of this answered above while I was typing.

One could just plan it in a conference style way. Thats pretty much exactly what you want.

Ssssssshhhhhh, the grown ups are talking

[kurious]

Fixing a date (based on Halvening, say?)

One year after Halvening maybe a good approximation for 100k.

Certainly a decent figure looks likely. 

My issue is (extreme example): What if it suddenly spikes to 100K for a few seconds on December 19th this year and then drops 30% a day later. 

1. Would anyone still organise the party to take place, given it's Christmas time and what had just happened?

2. Would anyone go?

[ChefImGartenPavillion]

Hi Lambie -
Multi-paties and all are fine, no problem with that.  However, whether it's one or many parties - organising anything within a week or so of breaking an arbitrary figure in price is at the very least difficult.  Just booking things up and people dropping everything to book a flight to get there means it is tough to see how it would work.

Fixing a date (based on Halvening, say?) and finding out well in advance how many takers there are makes it more feasible to set up, I would have thought.  Shoot me down, by all means - but people have lives and need to plan in advance - even decent hotels, restaurants etc are best booked in advance, surely...  Not many people will put a deposit down for a party on an unknown future date.  So how would you know numbers in order to book anything?

Also, for me and maybe I am not alone (I have no idea) I am not really up for hookers and blow. Never have been for the former, have weaned myself off the latter...  Call me a party pooper, if you like, but don't get me wrong; I do like the the idea of a party and a chance to meet people I have share the ups and downs with for years.  I also know some will head for the hookers and blow - and good luck to them, if they do - but I hope that is not all it is about. If there was a choice, I would be opting for beers and a chat.

Lastly, I might also like to explore a city and meet new friends with my partner in town with me. I may be alone in having this as a preference of course - but if it raises eyebrows to suggest this, I will just have to wait and hear tales of what I missed out on.

Edit: Some of this answered above while I was typing.

One could just plan it in a conference style way. Thats pretty much exactly what you want.

Ssssssshhhhhh, the grown ups are talking

Oh well sorry, I got too excited the grown ups arent talking about roach for once.

[Gyrsur]

some party ideas:

EDIT: I prefer to stay anonymous so I will wear a helmet like Daft Punk instead of my hat. is that OK for you guys?

[d_eddie]

Lambie I'd love to come to Vegas, but I must insist that we have a serious moment. Perhaps the address at the dinner could be given by that foremost bitcoin expert Ms Izabella Kaminska. I believe you know her well enough to invite her?

It would be fun to have the crap lady along with the slayer.
With a little extra maybe she would be willing to give the ad-dress un-dressed.
With a larger extra maybe she could entertain a few OGs with other oral abilities.
I seem to remember she was fond of particularly nasty porn, so my idea might be not totally out of this world.

[Lambie Slayer]

Hi Lambie -
Multi-paties and all are fine, no problem with that.  However, whether it's one or many parties - organising anything within a week or so of breaking an arbitrary figure in price is at the very least difficult.  Just booking things up and people dropping everything to book a flight to get there means it is tough to see how it would work.

Fixing a date (based on Halvening, say?) and finding out well in advance how many takers there are makes it more feasible to set up, I would have thought.  Shoot me down, by all means - but people have lives and need to plan in advance - even decent hotels, restaurants etc are best booked in advance, surely...  Not many people will put a deposit down for a party on an unknown future date.  So how would you know numbers in order to book anything?

Also, for me and maybe I am not alone (I have no idea) I am not really up for hookers and blow. Never have been for the former, have weaned myself off the latter...  Call me a party pooper, if you like, but don't get me wrong; I do like the the idea of a party and a chance to meet people I have share the ups and downs with for years.  I also know some will head for the hookers and blow - and good luck to them, if they do - but I hope that is not all it is about. If there was a choice, I would be opting for beers and a chat.

Lastly, I might also like to explore a city and meet new friends with my partner in town with me. I may be alone in having this as a preference of course - but if it raises eyebrows to suggest this, I will just have to wait and hear tales of what I missed out on.

Edit: Some of this answered above while I was typing.

In many cities this could be a problem, but in Vegas I can promise you that booking the restaurant for 25 people, nightclub for 75 people or less, stripclub 75 people or less, 1 stretch limo, and brothel for 25 people or less with a weeks notice would be eezy peezy lemon breezy.

A week is also plenty of time to get a fairly cheap plane ticket and hotel rooms are always abundant and inexpensive relative to quality in Vegas, even on zero days notice. Saturday is actually a better day since some will still have jobs and need to work Friday so consider this an amendment to my proposal. Also remember in my post no one but the host would have to put down a deposit for anything. As a Vegas host Im willing to pay in advance out of my pocket for the limo, VIP table and bottle deposits(the will likely just want to put a hold on a credit card at the most, if anything). The restaurant wont need a deposit for a party of 25, the stripclub wont need a deposit, and the brothel will not need a deposit.  

Multiple hosts is also to help with the fact that some will want a more wholesome party. I would never call you a party pooper for having different tastes. Also remember people can stay longer than a night and as WO members meet they can make separate plans to do things on sunday monday or however long they stay in town.

My party structure proposal did have 4 events and only the last 2 were of the non wholesome variety, but certainly a host could make a party with lots of wholesome events and completely avoid anything on the leaning towards debauchery.

[kurious]

Hi Lambie -
Multi-paties and all are fine, no problem with that.  However, whether it's one or many parties - organising anything within a week or so of breaking an arbitrary figure in price is at the very least difficult.  Just booking things up and people dropping everything to book a flight to get there means it is tough to see how it would work.

Fixing a date (based on Halvening, say?) and finding out well in advance how many takers there are makes it more feasible to set up, I would have thought.  Shoot me down, by all means - but people have lives and need to plan in advance - even decent hotels, restaurants etc are best booked in advance, surely...  Not many people will put a deposit down for a party on an unknown future date.  So how would you know numbers in order to book anything?

Also, for me and maybe I am not alone (I have no idea) I am not really up for hookers and blow. Never have been for the former, have weaned myself off the latter...  Call me a party pooper, if you like, but don't get me wrong; I do like the the idea of a party and a chance to meet people I have share the ups and downs with for years.  I also know some will head for the hookers and blow - and good luck to them, if they do - but I hope that is not all it is about. If there was a choice, I would be opting for beers and a chat.

Lastly, I might also like to explore a city and meet new friends with my partner in town with me. I may be alone in having this as a preference of course - but if it raises eyebrows to suggest this, I will just have to wait and hear tales of what I missed out on.

Edit: Some of this answered above while I was typing.

In many cities this could be a problem, but in Vegas I can promise you that booking the restaurant for 25 people, nightclub for 75 people or less, stripclub 75 people or less, 1 stretch limo, and brothel for 25 people or less with a weeks notice would be eezy peezy lemon breezy.

A week is also plenty of time to get a fairly cheap plane ticket and hotel rooms are always abundant and inexpensive relative to quality in Vegas, even on zero days notice. Saturday is actually a better day since some will still have jobs and need to work Friday so consider this an amendment to my proposal. Also remember in my post no one but the host would have to put down a deposit for anything. As a Vegas host Im willing to pay in advance out of my pocket for the limo, VIP table and bottle deposits(the will likely just want to put a hold on a credit card at the most, if anything). The restaurant wont need a deposit for a party of 25, the stripclub wont need a deposit, and the brothel will not need a deposit.  

Multiple hosts is also to help with the fact that some will want a more wholesome party. I would never call you a party pooper for having different tastes. Also remember people can stay longer than a night and as WO members meet they can make separate plans to do things on sunday monday or however long they stay in town.

My party structure proposal did have 4 events and only the last 2 were of the non wholesome variety, but certainly a host could make a party with lots of wholesome events and completely avoid anything on the leaning towards debauchery.

All fair enough - and I would not wish to ban debauchery at all, but you're right it's not really my thing to head for a brothel with a load of loaded Bitcoiners

Personally, I would not wish to book something in the hope people would show up, though, it would be a risk at short notice.  And it would have to be short notice.

There are way more people that would say they wanted to than would actually show up on the day in my experience. I suspect you might have a lot of people saying 'I would love to - it's just that weekend is a little awkward' and end up out of pocket.  At short notice it's way easier not to go than to actually go.

I am suggesting a little caution, that's all! 

[d_eddie]

Aren't we jinxing it?

[fillippone]

Hi Lambie -
Multi-paties and all are fine, no problem with that.  However, whether it's one or many parties - organising anything within a week or so of breaking an arbitrary figure in price is at the very least difficult.  Just booking things up and people dropping everything to book a flight to get there means it is tough to see how it would work.

Fixing a date (based on Halvening, say?) and finding out well in advance how many takers there are makes it more feasible to set up, I would have thought.  Shoot me down, by all means - but people have lives and need to plan in advance - even decent hotels, restaurants etc are best booked in advance, surely...  Not many people will put a deposit down for a party on an unknown future date.  So how would you know numbers in order to book anything?

Also, for me and maybe I am not alone (I have no idea) I am not really up for hookers and blow. Never have been for the former, have weaned myself off the latter...  Call me a party pooper, if you like, but don't get me wrong; I do like the the idea of a party and a chance to meet people I have share the ups and downs with for years.  I also know some will head for the hookers and blow - and good luck to them, if they do - but I hope that is not all it is about. If there was a choice, I would be opting for beers and a chat.

Lastly, I might also like to explore a city and meet new friends with my partner in town with me. I may be alone in having this as a preference of course - but if it raises eyebrows to suggest this, I will just have to wait and hear tales of what I missed out on.

Edit: Some of this answered above while I was typing.

In many cities this could be a problem, but in Vegas I can promise you that booking the restaurant for 25 people, nightclub for 75 people or less, stripclub 75 people or less, 1 stretch limo, and brothel for 25 people or less with a weeks notice would be eezy peezy lemon breezy.

A week is also plenty of time to get a fairly cheap plane ticket and hotel rooms are always abundant and inexpensive relative to quality in Vegas, even on zero days notice. Saturday is actually a better day since some will still have jobs and need to work Friday so consider this an amendment to my proposal. Also remember in my post no one but the host would have to put down a deposit for anything. As a Vegas host Im willing to pay in advance out of my pocket for the limo, VIP table and bottle deposits(the will likely just want to put a hold on a credit card at the most, if anything). The restaurant wont need a deposit for a party of 25, the stripclub wont need a deposit, and the brothel will not need a deposit.  

Multiple hosts is also to help with the fact that some will want a more wholesome party. I would never call you a party pooper for having different tastes. Also remember people can stay longer than a night and as WO members meet they can make separate plans to do things on sunday monday or however long they stay in town.

My party structure proposal did have 4 events and only the last 2 were of the non wholesome variety, but certainly a host could make a party with lots of wholesome events and completely avoid anything on the leaning towards debauchery.

What if we hold multiple party over the world, each one sporting a particular theme?

e.g. (fist ideas)

• Las Vegas: Lambie Style "wild party": hookers, strippers and raw meat.
• Maundays Bay, Anguilla: Laid back beach party Mic's Style, drinks, chatter and friendship in a beautiful landscape.
• Paris: Refined and classy party, tuxedos, gowns  and white gloves.
• Oxford: Knowledge Party: we use proceeds for the party to invite best lecturer and minds from all over the world to discuss about Bitcoin (jimmy Song, A Antonoupolous etc..)
• Nairobi/Maui/Lhasa (or whatever else in the world): Exploring/Adventure/Surfing/Safari/Hiking or whatever not bitcoin lateral activity. For someone now rich enough to afford a life relieving/soul enlightening experience.

The downside is that is that to gain traction it would be open also to guest/friends (maybe hatter could sport a sort of VIP treatment) but it would be nice to have each one of use finding their sweet spot.

[bitserve]

Hi Lambie -
Multi-paties and all are fine, no problem with that.  However, whether it's one or many parties - organising anything within a week or so of breaking an arbitrary figure in price is at the very least difficult.  Just booking things up and people dropping everything to book a flight to get there means it is tough to see how it would work.

Fixing a date (based on Halvening, say?) and finding out well in advance how many takers there are makes it more feasible to set up, I would have thought.  Shoot me down, by all means - but people have lives and need to plan in advance - even decent hotels, restaurants etc are best booked in advance, surely...  Not many people will put a deposit down for a party on an unknown future date.  So how would you know numbers in order to book anything?

Also, for me and maybe I am not alone (I have no idea) I am not really up for hookers and blow. Never have been for the former, have weaned myself off the latter...  Call me a party pooper, if you like, but don't get me wrong; I do like the the idea of a party and a chance to meet people I have share the ups and downs with for years.  I also know some will head for the hookers and blow - and good luck to them, if they do - but I hope that is not all it is about. If there was a choice, I would be opting for beers and a chat.

Lastly, I might also like to explore a city and meet new friends with my partner in town with me. I may be alone in having this as a preference of course - but if it raises eyebrows to suggest this, I will just have to wait and hear tales of what I missed out on.

Edit: Some of this answered above while I was typing.

Totally agreed with all your points, again.

Planning in advance is a must. Even if that means deferring the exact date (but not the planning!) some time after the milestone is reached. I would also try to coincide the celebration sometime around summer, but maybe that is just a personal preference that is irrelevant for the rest, it's ok then.

Depending on the final destination for the party I would also probably book for a much longer holiday there with my GF. She is also a decent hodler (in the low single digits though) on her own since 2013 as we made a couple of "joint" purchases at the time but other than that she is not much into crypto nor speaks much english so if I had her come with me to celebrate I would like to offer her some other additional activities on the destination.

I also don't have absolutely anything against blow and hookers, but neither really into it. As I have sometimes said: I can do all the drinking though

Also, even at $100K I (and I presume many other regulars) would not be nowhere near rich enough to spend the money as if there were no tomorrow, so I don't see any reasons to go much beyond an splendid celebration in the company of the same people with whom I shared this "virtual journey" for all this years. Of course, there could be some exceptional activities where I wouldn't mind spending much more... I am sure there will be excellent proposals and maybe some that I would be willing to also join even if that make the total spending much higher. I love the idea of optional/extra activities as have been said before.


 

[fillippone]

Aren't we jinxing it?

LOL, we  probably are, but who cares!
We believe in the magical internet money backed by cryptographically verified computations, not superstition!

[Lambie Slayer]

also Kurious I should mention a week after hitting 100k is plenty of time for anyone still working a job to tell their boss politely to go fuck themselves.  

JK, but seriously it could be 2 fridays after 100k also. I think we can all live with 70k prices on the night party if we get a crash   Even if 100k is the top and we go into bear market that day 1 or 2 weeks later the price should still be at least 50k which should make everyone very happy.

Also 100k party could easily end up being a 200k party by the time we fly to our destination a week later.

Last thing is a host could schedule something 1.5 years or so after halvening for a separate party that everyone could plan far ahead for, but i dont really see how anyone could need more than two weeks to plan this. However multiple parties is not a bad thing bc each one will be that much more intimate, as long as at least 12 Hats plus their guests show up to a party it should be a great experience. This means we could have perhaps up to 4 awesome parties.

At the end of the day I think it will come down to 3 parties though. One in the US for hats, one in the Europe or an island for hats, and one for nonhats or late hat earners. We still have likely two more years of price appreciation and fomo to attract a lot of new talent to this thread and they will want to party, hat or not.


Personally id like to go to a few parties.   I think if we get that list we will know a lot more about how to proceed.

[kurious]

One could just plan it in a conference style way. Thats pretty much exactly what you want.

Er... I loathe conferences and I certainly wouldn't want to attend endless Bitcoin lectures, if that's what you meant! 

Even if some do want 'hookers and blow' - it's fine, but I suspect many more won't.

I was picturing a classy central venue for the main evening with options for social stuff and fun (before, during and after). Something for everyone. 

I used to organise an annual trip to Europe for 300 boozers involving some diversionary entertainments (including a damn good live band they were all a fan of).  It worked really well - but took a shedload of organising.  It got too popular in the end when it got to 300 (the first year it was 50 people) and the stress of it wasn't worth it, but it was bloody good fun.

One thing I do know for sure is you need to flag it up a along time ahead if you want to be sure of getting decent numbers. Most people who were going to come, decided and booked many months in advance - we never sold more than a handful of tickets in the last month ahead.

[bitserve]

Aren't we jinxing it?

Yes. So we better finish the planning asap and go on with scheduled roadmap with no mention ever again until the milestone is reached.

This very same discussion would be completely catastrophic (80-90% crash) at a higher price.

[Gyrsur]

nice ideas guys but start small please. first of all you need money for a party.

first question is: who is willing to pay with bitcoin for a party and how much. in 2013 it was 1 BTC and the money was locked. if you pay 0.1 BTC today it will be enough in 3 years for a 100k party. but again the money is locked. who is still on the list?

EDIT: maybe someone should start a DAO "100kparty".

[Paashaas]

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[kurious]

also Kurious I should mention a week after hitting 100k is plenty of time for anyone still working a job to tell their boss politely to go fuck themselves.  

I work for myself, but I still might do just that!

JK, but seriously it could be 2 fridays after 100k also. I think we can all live with 70k prices on the night party if we get a crash   Even if 100k is the top and we go into bear market that day 1 or 2 weeks later the price should still be at least 50k which should make everyone very happy.

Also 100k party could easily end up being a 200k party by the time we fly to our destination a week later.

Sure - but if it's a 'fly to' party - I still think you will struggle with numbers if it's short notice - although I am sure those who do come will enjoy it.

Last thing is a host could schedule something 1.5 years or so after halvening for a separate party that everyone could plan far ahead for, but i dont really see how anyone could need more than two weeks to plan this. However multiple parties is not a bad thing bc each one will be that much more intimate, as long as at least 12 Hats plus their guests show up to a party it should be a great experience. This means we could have perhaps up to 4 awesome parties.

At the end of the day I think it will come down to 3 parties though. One in the US for hats, one in the Europe or an island for hats, and one for nonhats or late hat earners. We still have likely two more years of price appreciation and fomo to attract a lot of new talent to this thread and they will want to party, hat or not.


Personally id like to go to a few parties.   I think if we get that list we will know a lot more about how to proceed.

I'd like to meet people from all over, it's be a shame not to be at the same party as legends like say, Bob and Jimbo, Hairy and all who are not based in Europe as I am  - but I see your point - and I do love a party.

[fillippone]

EDIT: maybe someone should start a DAO "100kparty".

"Can you Guys stop partying??"

[Lambie Slayer]

Hi Lambie -
Multi-paties and all are fine, no problem with that.  However, whether it's one or many parties - organising anything within a week or so of breaking an arbitrary figure in price is at the very least difficult.  Just booking things up and people dropping everything to book a flight to get there means it is tough to see how it would work.

Fixing a date (based on Halvening, say?) and finding out well in advance how many takers there are makes it more feasible to set up, I would have thought.  Shoot me down, by all means - but people have lives and need to plan in advance - even decent hotels, restaurants etc are best booked in advance, surely...  Not many people will put a deposit down for a party on an unknown future date.  So how would you know numbers in order to book anything?

Also, for me and maybe I am not alone (I have no idea) I am not really up for hookers and blow. Never have been for the former, have weaned myself off the latter...  Call me a party pooper, if you like, but don't get me wrong; I do like the the idea of a party and a chance to meet people I have share the ups and downs with for years.  I also know some will head for the hookers and blow - and good luck to them, if they do - but I hope that is not all it is about. If there was a choice, I would be opting for beers and a chat.

Lastly, I might also like to explore a city and meet new friends with my partner in town with me. I may be alone in having this as a preference of course - but if it raises eyebrows to suggest this, I will just have to wait and hear tales of what I missed out on.

Edit: Some of this answered above while I was typing.

In many cities this could be a problem, but in Vegas I can promise you that booking the restaurant for 25 people, nightclub for 75 people or less, stripclub 75 people or less, 1 stretch limo, and brothel for 25 people or less with a weeks notice would be eezy peezy lemon breezy.

A week is also plenty of time to get a fairly cheap plane ticket and hotel rooms are always abundant and inexpensive relative to quality in Vegas, even on zero days notice. Saturday is actually a better day since some will still have jobs and need to work Friday so consider this an amendment to my proposal. Also remember in my post no one but the host would have to put down a deposit for anything. As a Vegas host Im willing to pay in advance out of my pocket for the limo, VIP table and bottle deposits(the will likely just want to put a hold on a credit card at the most, if anything). The restaurant wont need a deposit for a party of 25, the stripclub wont need a deposit, and the brothel will not need a deposit.  

Multiple hosts is also to help with the fact that some will want a more wholesome party. I would never call you a party pooper for having different tastes. Also remember people can stay longer than a night and as WO members meet they can make separate plans to do things on sunday monday or however long they stay in town.

My party structure proposal did have 4 events and only the last 2 were of the non wholesome variety, but certainly a host could make a party with lots of wholesome events and completely avoid anything on the leaning towards debauchery.

All fair enough - and I would not wish to ban debauchery at all, but you're right it's not really my thing to head for a brothel with a load of loaded Bitcoiners

Personally, I would not wish to book something in the hope people would show up, though, it would be a risk at short notice.  And it would have to be short notice.

There are way more people that would say they wanted to than would actually show up on the day in my experience. I suspect you might have a lot of people saying 'I would love to - it's just that weekend is a little awkward' and end up out of pocket.  At short notice it's way easier not to go than to actually go.

I am suggesting a little caution, that's all! 

U bring up good points.

Typically the longer someone has to think about something imo the more likely they are to back out. This is why corporate America works so hard to push impulse buying on everyone and why they say count to ten when you are angry.

I would have no problem doing this party with myself and my 2 guests if not one single Hat wants to come celebrate the new wealth.  

All it would cost me would be I pay for all the limo out of pocket which is fine, more leg room!

Can someone fill me in on what led to the downfall of the 1k party, I didnt start following the thread till a few months after 1k.

Also how much time would be necessary in your opinion to properly plan and not feel rushed. Are you talking 3 weeks, 2 months, maybe a little more detail on that would help me understand where you are coming from. I would think anything more than a few weeks after 100k and a lot of the thrill would be gone.