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November 20, 2020, 06:46:35 PM
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Well, I just went a whole 8 minutes and 27.58 seconds without checking the ticker.
Top that, wo bros.
( my previous record was 7 minutes 5.68 seconds)
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November 20, 2020, 06:54:16 PM

Well, I just went a whole 8 minutes and 27.58 seconds without checking the ticker.
Top that, wo bros.
( my previous record was 7 minutes 5.68 seconds)

I'm not saying it can't be done.  But...  Can it be done?
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November 20, 2020, 06:56:38 PM

Despite its lulzy tone, this is a serious post, seeking advice from the Wall’s professional-class GPU expert brain trust.  I am a Unix terminal junkie, who does not play games or mine shitcoins—not a GPU expert!

~snip

What the fuck minimal hardware (and electricity budget) is realistically needed for entry-level playing with kitty AI?  Assuming a desire to train one’s own networks...

~snip


 It depends on your interest level multiplied by your wealth divided by your patience2.

https://lambdalabs.com/blog/choosing-a-gpu-for-deep-learning/

 tl;dr Scroll half-way down the page for the GPU recommendations.
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November 20, 2020, 07:04:15 PM

Been away for a bit. Did you sell some around the 16k mark bob?
I remember you were talking about it if btc reached 16k

Cashed out a chunk @ $16,250 USD/BTC.

Rick is retiring early, end of February as a result.

Totally worth it.

For sure. You held through the tough times and deserve the reward. You stuck to a number that you would be happy with and it matters not what btc does after that. GL

"Cashed out a chunk" means "took profit" not no-coiner status.
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November 20, 2020, 07:11:33 PM

Nullian coredump, Part 1/2.  h/t johhnyUA for a link to an article dated 12 November 2020.

Red alert:  Imminent plans for a mining pool with transaction blacklisting, based on blockchain analysis and, of course, the Diktat of the American world-police OFAC.

The gist of my intended Part 2/2 has been preëmpted by someone else much more succinctly, in a post that I will leave untranslated so that I can avoid being suddenly ignore-listed by both Jay and CT—and pretty much everybody else on WO, except (ironically) marcus.

Merits to the man who had the moral courage to say this publicly, amidst 🚀🤩🤩🤩🌙🤩🤩🤩🚀:
Пpoблeмкa тoлькo oднa. Tyзeмyн идeт yжe ceйчac, кaк нa фoндe тaк и в кpиптe. Кopoнaвиpycный фoн мoжeт тoлькo пoвлиять нa eгo aмплитyдy и пpoдoлжитeльнocть, a тaк тo этo yжe cвepшившийcя фaкт. Пpитoм, личнo я пoкa пpoтив вxoждeния шиpoкиx мac кpecтьян кpивoзyбыx. Ecли вoйдeт cpaзy opдa кyгyтoв (нy я, кpиптaн элитapий тaк иx вocпpинимaю), тo кyгyты бyдyт дaлeкo нe пpoтив peгyляций, aнaльнoгo oгopaживaния, нaлoгoв пoд 50 % пoд видoм зaщиты oт злoбныx xaкepoв и пpoчий тoтaльный кoнтpoль.

Этo кaк c Pимoм - кoгдa кpитичecкaя мacca вapвapoв нaчaлa жить в Pимcкoй Импepии, тo Импepия и пpeвpaтилacь в бaнтycтaн. Ecть дaжe тepмин "вapвapизaция". И в cлyчae кpипты этo бyдeт имeннo чтo вapвapизaция. Taкoe мнe нe нaдo. Лyчшe бит пo 3к  Smiley

Honest and admirable.  Freedom and privacy—principles over greed—and an historical perspective, too.

I have been avoiding this, but I do need to say it publicly sometime.  For the record.

I fear that Bitcoin may be a victim of its own success.  I try to avoid saying this too explicitly in public, so as to avoid FUDding Bitcoin and discouraging the HODLers; but it has been implied in some of my Wall Observer posts in various contexts pertaining to regulation generally (privacy and otherwise).

If we “moon” and get big institutional money onboard, then greed will prevent people from resisting regulatory strangulation of Bitcoin’s freedom—[...]

If I could have Bitcoin keep its freedom and be worth exactly what I bought it for—no more, no less, forever—then I would be much happier than I will be to see my modest stash “moon” as I lose my tiny little sliver of financial freedom.


I think nullius' posts are a category of their own and maybe Serious Discussion > Ivory Tower > Nullius' Dungeon might be a solution to avoid having his posts deleted from the WO in the future. Cool
Thanks.  Quotable. ;-)
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November 20, 2020, 07:14:09 PM
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the noon wall report

still cascading upwards across most time frames as bitcoin posts another yearly high this morning at $18,824.88

#dyor

1h


4h


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#stronghands
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November 20, 2020, 07:38:57 PM

ATH and then a good correction, rebuilding base.

Pump to $25,000, then a correction to $20,000 would be preferable  Tongue

my opinion ? i think 20k $ is a nightmare to traders now , ibitcoin gonna spend days before it  break  with the enough volume , maybe this altcoins turn for a bullrun .

Fuck "altcoins"...   Roll Eyes

They are more properly known as shitcoins.. for a reason.   Tongue
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November 20, 2020, 07:41:43 PM

ATH and then a good correction, rebuilding base.

Pump to $25,000, then a correction to $20,000 would be preferable  Tongue

my opinion ? i think 20k $ is a nightmare to traders now , ibitcoin gonna spend days before it  break  with the enough volume , maybe this altcoins turn for a bullrun .

Fuck "altcoins"...   Roll Eyes

They are more properly known as shitcoins.. for a reason.   Tongue
Most chances we will F**K theese altcoins for some long time because right now we are going in good way with positive sentiments.
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November 20, 2020, 07:51:56 PM

ATH and then a good correction, rebuilding base.

Pump to $25,000, then a correction to $20,000 would be preferable  Tongue

my opinion ? i think 20k $ is a nightmare to traders now , ibitcoin gonna spend days before it  break  with the enough volume , maybe this altcoins turn for a bullrun .

Fuck "altcoins"...   Roll Eyes

They are more properly known as shitcoins.. for a reason.   Tongue


2020 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2017
Eth is at 510.................................Eth was 1200

BTC is at 18651 ........................... BTC was 20000

so 2.7344% eth value to BTC value 2020

vs 6.0000% eth value to BTC value 2017

note coin value not market cap.

so I won't argue 2.7344 is too low right now
I won't argue 6.0000 was too high back then.

I will average the 2 and get 4.36%  So does the current number drift to 4.36% by eth moving to 800 a coin?
 if it does it gives us  4.289%

and a big time eth rally is right around the corner.

good for my gpus as I will get more btc when I cash in the eth next week.

I sell my eth for btc and fiat. so an eth rally works to get me more btc.
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November 20, 2020, 07:52:33 PM

They want to break the ATH so people will go home for Thanksgiving and talk about it.

OMG...

You gotta be trolling with that Torque... no?

Almost worth a merit... if you were actually trying to be funny rather than probably really believing that "they" crap.

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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November 20, 2020, 07:57:29 PM

*drying off with $8,000 towel.*

That's EPIC!

In my case, I'm currently using a $2000 Trezor...

At least we haven't been eating $90M pizzas (yet)!

I have a couple $1,300 sandwiches

Dont forget my $33,000 iphone 6..

(1.8 BTC on feb 2016)

I had a bloke code some stuff that I can code now myself in 1 hour. Only 25 BTC  Roll Eyes
This type of thing is easy to joke about, and I definitely bought my share of thousand dollar cookies. Smiley

But I think it's important to remember that by buying those sandwiches and pizzas - and buying them with BTC, not by converting to cash first - early adopters paved the way psychologically for people to believe that BTC are actually worth something. Who knows whether the bitcoins that bought those things would really be worth that much now if they hadn't been spent?
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November 20, 2020, 07:58:12 PM

[WO] Bitcoin вapвapизaция кpecтьянaми

Exhibit EOVERFLOW:

Bitcoin Forum > Other > “Serious discussion” (LOL!) > Too strong KYC
Topic totally derailed by nullius to:  Re: Any KYC is “Too strong KYC”

It's simple.

If you move around Huge Money you want every partner (exchange) to hold your ID details so you won't have problems proving that transactions did occur on your part.

It’s simple.

If you move around Huge Money (or any money!), you want to use private keys in your own wallet—“Not your keys, not your coins!”—so you won’t have problems proving that transactions did occurr with your digital signatures on the blockchain.

Most websites that use KYC feature have a third-party KYC processor who holds the data secure. Still, use your own research on each KYC demanding project as these policies differ a lot.

I advise that you read through a thread with much more serious discussion of the “KYC” issue than this “Serious Discussion” idiot-thread, and heed the advice thereby from people who understand this subject as you assuredly do not.

When someone is doing KYC, they are forced to hand out parts of their personal identity to a third party (such as an exchange, ICO, etc). After that point, they aren’t in control of the process anymore and are totally exposed on the third party to handle their sensitive data safely. If something should be hacked, the affected people can't do anything.
I suggest not to try KYC with websites that do not have a third party KYC Service, having a third party service will make your mind at ease but of course, a reputable service just like Binance is using "Refinitiv" is decent one.
Why is a company using a third party service safer? I'd argue the exact opposite. Companies often tender this out to the lowest bidder, who invariably have very poor security. It also means your KYC documents are being shared around with more people and with third party companies, so there are more opportunities for a malicious employee to access them or a hacker to steal them. Your Binance example is a poor one considering they were hacked for thousands of users' documents and information just a few months ago.


I’ve never submitted to any “KYC” identity-rape doxing for anything whatsoever even remotely related to Bitcoin.  On principle, I never will.

Edit, P.S.:

you = 🐑

Any mad hatters want to cap that muttonhead with a cluestick!?

[🚀🤩🤩🤩🌙🤩🤩🤩🚀]
—then I would be much happier than I will be to see my modest stash “moon” as I lose my tiny little sliver of financial freedom.


P.S., that is in the so-called “Serious Discussion” forum.  Roll Eyes

Also there is literally a board named "Serious Discussion". That's where serious discussion can go without being subject to the uncertainty of a special excempt self-mod thread.
Arguing against my expectation that I can safely post serious discussion outside of the forum named Serious Discussion—are you serious!?  Roll Eyes
I think nullius' posts are a category of their own and maybe Serious Discussion > Ivory Tower > Nullius' Dungeon might be a solution to avoid having his posts deleted from the WO in the future. Cool
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November 20, 2020, 08:11:54 PM

Check out HEX ya moron, was just 3 days of work for free. You think you can do that?

Ignored.

https://twitter.com/MyLegacyKit/status/1329727586000379904


Sure Hex.. collapsing.. after making Richard Hart rich as fuck... and likely he will need to hide from the regulators... I would think that his way of going about that scam would not have been anything but criminal.. .. just seemed so obvious the way that he was pumping that bullshit with ongoing read between the lines type assertions that likely tempted all kinds of innocent peeps into helping Richard to receive his various paydays while carrying out such scam.

19K this weekend
AT fucking H this weekend!  Cool

Seems inevitable now... within this close... maybe our break above $18.5k today and pushing up to $18,825 within the past couple of hours demonstrates that buying pressures remain greater than selling pressures.. and it is going to be a bit difficult for bearwhales to fight off the current short-term momentum...   not impossible, but surely would take quite a bit of fuel to stop this baby at these price points and this current ongoing momentum..

Sure we seem to be coiling at the moment in the $18,500s (as I type).. and sure there might be some downward fakeouts (or downward attempts) but gotta consider ongoing current momentum, too...

Popcorn, anyone?



My google skills are lacking today..but like 2 days ago in the Midwest USA I saw a really, really, scammy TV Add for Hex.com during

prime time. Like 8 p.m. CDT USA...I can't find a link..but man was it over the top..it had supermodels, it had super-fast boats and the Ad said

you want to be fabulously wealthy get hex now at hex.com. Indeed the T.V. Ad was so 1980's uber rich over the top...if it would have been

Bitcoin..it would have set the coin back to $15k just because the ad was so slimy. I literally sat there with my jaw open, saying did they really just

go full pump/dump greed, get some now before it is too late, or your a chump.. full-court press? Sheesh!

Anyway, post it on here if you can find it...but is hard to describe how scammy it was without actually seeing it.

Again, I've no luck finding it. If hex.com is smart, they got feedback and burned every copy. The ad itself screamed SEC investigate hex.com for crying out loud!

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November 20, 2020, 08:17:19 PM

They want to break the ATH so people will go home for Thanksgiving and talk about it.

OMG...

You gotta be trolling with that Torque... no?

Almost worth a merit... if you were actually trying to be funny rather than probably really believing that "they" crap.

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

They = whales

Yes they do exist

Also fk off  Grin
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November 20, 2020, 08:18:58 PM

'member, lads, don't waste your money on this stuff



get something like this instead


A Lambo has a lot lower total cost of ownership than a redhead.

But a redhead is faster 0 - 60
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Imagine being fiat, and the most valuable thing you do on the planet is get traded for more valuable, deflationary assets.
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November 20, 2020, 08:23:21 PM


dude, theres like, a whole subreddit devoted too that with alot of fans

chill, loose the judgmental stuff, Your harshing my buzz 🙃☮
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More like a limo driver for a rock star.

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