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[Richy_T]

I have a feeling it will still take at least 10 to 20 years, but if they can see it happening now, then can find ways to delay the inevitable, but they will try to delay it anyway.

I've been saying it's coming "sometime" for a while but now I feel it's imminent. What's going on in the US has all the elements of looting while the looting's good. The cracks have been showing for a while and BRICS haven't been idle. It's getting a bit far into this year but I think we could see something major within 12 months.

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[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[xhomerx10]

I call this haiku

A Continuation of Hope

The price of Bitcoin
is up 36%
under Joe Biden Forever, Laura!    South America.

 

FTFY.

Another Fix

Can anyone (maybe you dude?) provide me some kind of clarification by the "South America" matter?

Is the reference to El Salvador (technically in Central America... but sure for practical purposes the same thing)?   or is the reference about something going on somewhere else in South/Central America?

The latest news that I had been seeing had been that there were some other countries in South/Central America gaining attention to bitcoin, but none of them have come out (up) with anything that is even close to as bitcoin centered as the El Salvador legislation (plan), and sure with the passage of time, there is likely going to be continued movements in various countries that are going to be seeing advantages including bitcoin in their future plans - whether it is going to be the allowance of bitcoin payment/saving systems or whether it is going to be various kinds of increasing of bitcoin into governmental treasury systems.

In some sense, I am contemplating.. what's so fucking special about South/Central America.. sure the El Salvador case is really great news, but so far we really do not have any close approximations of copy-catters.. Am I missing something?

Don't get me wrong, also.  I do appreciate the great position that some of the South/Central American countries are in terms of their relationships to the USD  but why not other countries?  such as countries on the African continent?  or even other countries?  In other words, there could be some thoughts of possible regionalism in terms of jumping on a similar band wagon, but since bitcoin is so global, there are so many possibilities in so many places, and I do not understand why there would be any kind of special South/Central American focus - except for  the fact that El Salvador already did something that is still in its real early buddening stages.  Punchline:  what am I missing?   Is there some recent South/Central America news that I did not see?

 Well, it has 5 syllables.  Also, Argentina, Brazil, Panama and Paraguay have endorsed El Salvador's bitcoin manoeuvre and they're mostly South American.  Latin America has too many syllables.
 

[xhomerx10]

Awwww!  I was waiting for the exact day to post something about the 50 year anniversary of the USA severing the dollar/gold connection and I totally blew it! 




Sorry I'm late.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

@LFC_Bitcoin and English fans

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Damn it Bhai, that is uncalled for



@TradesUnder
#Bitcoin  net outflows from exchange balances is currently occurring at a rate of between 50k and 100k BTC per month.

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https://twitter.com/tradesunder/status/1427354220345249827?s=21



Supply shortage & price rise loading…..

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[shahzadafzal]

@shahzadafzal If anyone celebrating this fuckup in Pakistan (recent events in Afg), please remind them that not one Afghani recognize the Durand line, be it your good taliban or bad taliban.

Celebrating??? You got it wrong my friend… stop trusting your media and yelling journalists they just want to make it a sensational news.

Remember this is not a celebration for Taliban winning… but it’s a laugh on a Big Daddy the mighty might and not only Pakistanis but world is laughing too. Champions of the peace have left the country in chaos. People are literally falling from skies. There are more daily killings in Afghanistan as compared to 2001.

Who’s ready to fight Taliban in Afghanistan yet again? Americas might be safe sitting thousands of miles away but what options do neighboring countries have? Think..

[OutOfMemory]

I'll be away with family for some days, without www access in reach.
Alpine wilderness adventures, here i come 

Bitcoin over $50k when (if) i return 
Have a nice week, don't forget to do yourself something good every day.

[El duderino_]

I call this haiku

A Continuation of Hope

The price of Bitcoin
is up 36%
under Joe Biden Forever, Laura!    South America.

 

FTFY.

Another Fix

Can anyone (maybe you dude?) provide me some kind of clarification by the "South America" matter?

Is the reference to El Salvador (technically in Central America... but sure for practical purposes the same thing)?   or is the reference about something going on somewhere else in South/Central America?

The latest news that I had been seeing had been that there were some other countries in South/Central America gaining attention to bitcoin, but none of them have come out (up) with anything that is even close to as bitcoin centered as the El Salvador legislation (plan), and sure with the passage of time, there is likely going to be continued movements in various countries that are going to be seeing advantages including bitcoin in their future plans - whether it is going to be the allowance of bitcoin payment/saving systems or whether it is going to be various kinds of increasing of bitcoin into governmental treasury systems.

In some sense, I am contemplating.. what's so fucking special about South/Central America.. sure the El Salvador case is really great news, but so far we really do not have any close approximations of copy-catters.. Am I missing something?

Don't get me wrong, also.  I do appreciate the great position that some of the South/Central American countries are in terms of their relationships to the USD  but why not other countries?  such as countries on the African continent?  or even other countries?  In other words, there could be some thoughts of possible regionalism in terms of jumping on a similar band wagon, but since bitcoin is so global, there are so many possibilities in so many places, and I do not understand why there would be any kind of special South/Central American focus - except for  the fact that El Salvador already did something that is still in its real early buddening stages.  Punchline:  what am I missing?   Is there some recent South/Central America news that I did not see?

 Well, it has 5 syllables.  Also, Argentina, Brazil, Panama and Paraguay have endorsed El Salvador's bitcoin manoeuvre and they're mostly South American.  Latin America has too many syllables.
 

Homer always 10 steps ahead of you JJG

And indeed Latin was to long

[JayJuanGee]

Wake me up when Bart fucks up.

A kind of funny thing seems to be that some peeps see Barts or even upside down Barts at various differing points, and perhaps even attribute some kind of significance and importance and meaning to them that goes beyond their seemingly cave-level shadows placements.

Go figure that, if you are willing?

I have a feeling it will still take at least 10 to 20 years, but if they can see it happening now, then can find ways to delay the inevitable, but they will try to delay it anyway.

Sometimes the question of when (or how long) it might take to get from e to p might not be as important as just enjoying the part in the middle, too... such as even e to j.. and sure if we end up getting to "p" more quickly then great or if we get our lil selfies stuck on "f" for a long time, then so be it...

We have already come a long way from a to e (ish), and probably some of us only got on board around "c"-ish but had hardly any clue about where we were at when we got on, but still were able to advantage a lot in the wee bit of the journey that we had from the c to e (-ish) part that we have travelled, so far.

[Arriemoller]

I disagree, but only somewhat.
There are uncanny parallels with Rome, though.
~450-470 years of the Republic, followed by ~450-500 year of the Empire: ~200 years of imperial ascendancy and 250-300 years of decline.

I think things hollow out from the inside until the whole tree suddenly collapses. USSR was a great example: In 1984 they were going to be around for a thousand years. Then gone. The Afghan thing was "quick" but not really: The Taliban have been paying people off ever since Trump sold the people there into slavery. Wonder what he got out of it, but the point is the hollowing out went on for over a year. Then the first puff of wind and down it goes.

The US still seems to have some resilience, but it is being hollowed out nicely. Not looking forward to a collapse: I really hate being a warlord and leather chaps+helmet can chafe.

What the fuck does that mean.

[Arriemoller]

Look at me, we are the Captains now

Well yeah....
No 2 bit opium poppy farmer is gonna fuck with dudes who still live in the dark ages, pray to Allah 5 times a day
and sport those funny hats, full beards, and flash full clips and AK's.....

... hahaha that's hilarious! assuming you are american you see no irony in claiming "sour grapes" after getting booted out unceremoniously from a barren mountainous desert after spending ~$2 trillion total, $88 billion arming and training the local military that imploded in less than a month and cost thousands of lives

https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-business-afghanistan-43d8f53b35e80ec18c130cd683e1a38f

THE LONGEST WAR:

Percentage of U.S. population born since the 2001 attacks plotted by al-Qaida leaders who were sheltering in Afghanistan: Roughly one out of every four.

THE HUMAN COST:

American service members killed in Afghanistan through April: 2,448.

U.S. contractors: 3,846.

Afghan national military and police: 66,000.

Other allied service members, including from other NATO member states: 1,144.

Afghan civilians: 47,245.

Taliban and other opposition fighters: 51,191.

Aid workers: 444.

Journalists: 72.

Estimated amount of direct Afghanistan and Iraq war costs that the United States has debt-financed as of 2020: $2 trillion.

Estimated interest costs by 2050: Up to $6.5 trillion.

THE WARS END. THE COSTS DON’T:

Amount Bilmes estimates the United States has committed to pay in health care, disability, burial and other costs for roughly 4 million Afghanistan and Iraq veterans: more than $2 trillion.

Period those costs will peak: after 2048.

... it took 20 years to decide it wasn't worth 'fucking with' them??? huh?

US population got screwed big time by Military-Industrial-Complex ... and got the Patriot Act gem and Stasi-like surveillance state intelligence apparatus to keep them in line as a nice side bonus

I wrote big ass reply, some in agreement to your response and many counter argument, including so called fake ass western theory.

then i thought its completely useless in this forum because no-one would understand it and judging from your reply i get the feeling that we have virtually no geo- politics readers or specialist here so i retracted it.

I would very much like to read it.

[shahzadafzal]

Look at me, we are the Captains now

Well yeah....
No 2 bit opium poppy farmer is gonna fuck with dudes who still live in the dark ages, pray to Allah 5 times a day
and sport those funny hats, full beards, and flash full clips and AK's.....

... hahaha that's hilarious! assuming you are american you see no irony in claiming "sour grapes" after getting booted out unceremoniously from a barren mountainous desert after spending ~$2 trillion total, $88 billion arming and training the local military that imploded in less than a month and cost thousands of lives

https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-business-afghanistan-43d8f53b35e80ec18c130cd683e1a38f

THE LONGEST WAR:

Percentage of U.S. population born since the 2001 attacks plotted by al-Qaida leaders who were sheltering in Afghanistan: Roughly one out of every four.

THE HUMAN COST:

American service members killed in Afghanistan through April: 2,448.

U.S. contractors: 3,846.

Afghan national military and police: 66,000.

Other allied service members, including from other NATO member states: 1,144.

Afghan civilians: 47,245.

Taliban and other opposition fighters: 51,191.

Aid workers: 444.

Journalists: 72.

Estimated amount of direct Afghanistan and Iraq war costs that the United States has debt-financed as of 2020: $2 trillion.

Estimated interest costs by 2050: Up to $6.5 trillion.

THE WARS END. THE COSTS DON’T:

Amount Bilmes estimates the United States has committed to pay in health care, disability, burial and other costs for roughly 4 million Afghanistan and Iraq veterans: more than $2 trillion.

Period those costs will peak: after 2048.

... it took 20 years to decide it wasn't worth 'fucking with' them??? huh?

US population got screwed big time by Military-Industrial-Complex ... and got the Patriot Act gem and Stasi-like surveillance state intelligence apparatus to keep them in line as a nice side bonus

I wrote big ass reply, some in agreement to your response and many counter argument, including so called fake ass western theory.

then i thought its completely useless in this forum because no-one would understand it and judging from your reply i get the feeling that we have virtually no geo- politics readers or specialist here so i retracted it.

I would very much like to read it.

Yes bring it on….!!

[Arriemoller]

So, a lot of people gloating right now, but riddle me this, what were they supposed to do? Lean back and say "it's ok, you can kill thousands of people in NYC and other places for no reason at all and we will just let you do it, no repercussions what so ever"?
Running the taliban out of Afghanistan and killing Usama was the right thing to do, what was wrong was not going all in for a very long time. You can't change a society in 20 years, it take maybe 100 years.

[explorer]

I have a feeling it will still take at least 10 to 20 years, but if they can see it happening now, then can find ways to delay the inevitable, but they will try to delay it anyway.

I've been saying it's coming "sometime" for a while but now I feel it's imminent. What's going on in the US has all the elements of looting while the looting's good. The cracks have been showing for a while and BRICS haven't been idle. It's getting a bit far into this year but I think we could see something major within 12 months.

    Still plenty of time for shit to get right sideways in the next few months.  my feeling is 2:1 USA gets excited before winter.

[JayJuanGee]

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I wrote big ass reply, some in agreement to your response and many counter argument, including so called fake ass western theory.

then i thought its completely useless in this forum because no-one would understand it and judging from your reply i get the feeling that we have virtually no geo- politics readers or specialist here so i retracted it.

Don't give up nanha bhaee.  

I wrote big ass reply, some in agreement to your response and many counter argument, including so called fake ass western theory.

then i thought its completely useless in this forum because no-one would understand it and judging from your reply i get the feeling that we have virtually no geo- politics readers or specialist here so i retracted it.

since this is a future 'historical' forum, one HAS to post their 'big ass replies', otherwise future historians would think that our 'friendly bot' and its/his partner in 'letters' are the only two bitcoin-talkers who existed.

In essence, the dweeb, aka Biodom, has gots his wwwwweeeeeee lil selfie a decent pointening, here.

 

[Richy_T]

So, a lot of people gloating right now, but riddle me this, what were they supposed to do? Lean back and say "it's ok, you can kill thousands of people in NYC and other places for no reason at all and we will just let you do it, no repercussions what so ever"?
Running the taliban out of Afghanistan and killing Usama was the right thing to do, what was wrong was not going all in for a very long time. You can't change a society in 20 years, it take maybe 100 years.

The Taliban was largely irrelevant to us other than sheltering Al Quaeda (largely a US invention). Osama was eventually located in Pakistan (if the official story is true). All that was needed for the Taliban was to give them a swift kick in the pants and continue to do so on an as-needed basis. Once it was clear that Osama had made like a tree, we should have been out of there. Why we were farting around there for 20 years is beyond me (Oh wait, my cynicism is switched off).

[shahzadafzal]

So, a lot of people gloating right now, but riddle me this, what were they supposed to do? Lean back and say "it's ok, you can kill thousands of people in NYC and other places for no reason at all and we will just let you do it, no repercussions what so ever"?
Running the taliban out of Afghanistan and killing Usama was the right thing to do, what was wrong was not going all in for a very long time. You can't change a society in 20 years, it take maybe 100 years.

The Taliban was largely irrelevant to us other than sheltering Al Quaeda (largely a US invention). Osama was eventually located in Pakistan (if the official story is true). All that was needed for the Taliban was to give them a swift kick in the pants and continue to do so on an as-needed basis. Once it was clear that Osama had made like a tree, we should have been out of there. Why we were farting around there for 20 years is beyond me (Oh wait, my cynicism is switched off).

Even OBL was killed in 2011 what US been doing there for another 10 years???  Now Biden said “ 'Nation building' never a #US goal in #Afghanistan, says Biden” then why US spent billions of dollars to train useless Afghan army. Where did the so called Afghan Air force go that have been in training for years?

[JayJuanGee]

I have a feeling it will still take at least 10 to 20 years, but if they can see it happening now, then can find ways to delay the inevitable, but they will try to delay it anyway.

I've been saying it's coming "sometime" for a while but now I feel it's imminent. What's going on in the US has all the elements of looting while the looting's good. The cracks have been showing for a while and BRICS haven't been idle. It's getting a bit far into this year but I think we could see something major within 12 months.

I agree with your idea about the ongoing looting of the desperate twats, Richy.. but imminent failure/Armageddon seems a wee bit of a road too far, at least from my perspective.

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Well, it has 5 syllables.  Also, Argentina, Brazil, Panama and Paraguay have endorsed El Salvador's bitcoin manoeuvre and they're mostly South American.  Latin America has too many syllables.

You math and science peeps always screwing things up, including but not limited to haikus.

 

Homer always 10 steps ahead of you JJG

And indeed Latin was to long

Tell this turtle something that it does not already know?

 

[Philipma1957cellphone]

So, a lot of people gloating right now, but riddle me this, what were they supposed to do? Lean back and say "it's ok, you can kill thousands of people in NYC and other places for no reason at all and we will just let you do it, no repercussions what so ever"?
Running the taliban out of Afghanistan and killing Usama was the right thing to do, what was wrong was not going all in for a very long time. You can't change a society in 20 years, it take maybe 100 years.

The Taliban was largely irrelevant to us other than sheltering Al Quaeda (largely a US invention). Osama was eventually located in Pakistan (if the official story is true). All that was needed for the Taliban was to give them a swift kick in the pants and continue to do so on an as-needed basis. Once it was clear that Osama had made like a tree, we should have been out of there. Why we were farting around there for 20 years is beyond me (Oh wait, my cynicism is switched off).

Even OBL was killed in 2011 what US been doing there for another 10 years???  Now Biden said “ 'Nation building' never a #US goal in #Afghanistan, says Biden” then why US spent billions of dollars to train useless Afghan army. Where did the so called Afghan Air force go that have been in training for years?

This is all I. Preparation for 2024 election trump returns points out bidens fuckup and crushes out Afghan government.