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Question: Price Target for Nov. 30, 2024:
<$75K - 2 (3.6%)
$75K to $80K - 1 (1.8%)
$80K to $85K - 2 (3.6%)
$85K to $90K - 7 (12.5%)
$90K to $95K - 12 (21.4%)
$95K to $100K - 9 (16.1%)
>$100K - 23 (41.1%)
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September 29, 2021, 04:06:12 AM

The point is this is a self moderating thread and if the majority doesn't want covid crap talk then we should respect that and use a location that Bob generously setup for us.
I really can't see why you would be so dense as to have to have that explained to you.

To be fair, I was deleting his posts and denying him an outlet - a poor, rash decision that I apologize for, in retrospect; have corrected - and should not be an issue moving forward for Arrie (or any other person on my ignore list, for that matter - unless I get reports they are shitting the place up)

Shit, I even engaged JJG for the first time in, like, I can't remember when.

Furthermore, I do want to clarify, that WO casuals do have an implied welcome to post.

The "No Hat? Fuck Off!" is simply one layer of a loose filter system - if there is meaningful contribution by an outsider, I don't see the point of deleting it - same as if an outsider came in here and made an insightful post.

Didn't realize you were deleting his posts, glad you sorted that.
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It's just that it seems so unlike this thread, the only thread that you can discuss important things in without snowflakes interfering.
And now it seems to be going the way of other threads.
Nothing wrong with discussing it in another thread, but I think it was wrong "banning" the discussion in this thread.
Bob is deleting my posts anyway so I'll just have to post whatever I might have to say on the subject here regardless.

Make a thread yourself, point out the points you wanna discuss... Same as Bob does easy as that, people will chose which chain they follow and use...

But GL with that one, Bob is kinda populair  Cheesy

Well, since my point is that there shouldn't be another thread, that would kind of defeat the purpose.

The point is this is a self moderating thread and if the majority doesn't want covid crap talk then we should respect that and use a location that Bob generously setup for us.

I really can't see why you would be so dense as to have to have that explained to you.

What "majority", screaming the loudest doesn't make you a "majority".
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September 29, 2021, 04:09:11 AM

What "majority", screaming the loudest doesn't make you a "majority".

English, use your english.

Who's screaming here?
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September 29, 2021, 04:33:08 AM

What "majority", screaming the loudest doesn't make you a "majority".

English, use your english.

Who's screaming here?

That's exactly how cancel culture works, you take a free speech thread and start calling people with views you don't like names, like "dense" and try to ridicule them and demand that they shut up or move somewhere else.
In the end, if you do not stand up against that behavior, all that is left is well, the cancel culture left and their views.
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September 29, 2021, 05:00:35 AM

.....
You way of saying : "I snatched a bag of cocaine into my rectum through an airport and it leaked so I needed hospitalization from the OD!" Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


...and I thought I had a weird sense of humor....

...and i thought savetherainforest is on every WO's ignore list...
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September 29, 2021, 05:06:31 AM

Good morning!
I'm back after a nice 11 hour sleep and some coffee.

After some early morning thinking I think I know what started my anger. It was Jimbo's impolite post where he, for no reason, called my thoughts "covid propaganda" and told me to move that "crap" to Bobs thread.
That triggered me, had his post been a normal polite post I would probably just have written a normal post about why I don't like that and then just gone to Bob's thread.

This in combination with my disappointment in Bob triggered my harsh wording, (although I don't think sissy and snowflake are particularly harsh words).

I always figured Bob to be someone who would stand up for free speech and fight against cancel culture and not cave in to snowflake behavior, instead he appeased the "snowflakes" and started a thread for the cancelled. I saw, (and still see) him as an enabler.
This made me very disappointed in him and made me loose a lot of my respect for him.
Having said that, it's not Bobs fault that he doesn't live up to my expectations, so I won't pick on him any further, but I won't be apologizing either, I still think he's an enabler.

During my morning thinking I also realized something about Jimbo, but that's for another occasion.

And by that I'm done with the Bob skirmish.

There's always at least one different view, on any topic. There's no harm done by trying to see it/them as well.
Peace of mind is nothing that is to be found, but it's something that has to be created.
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September 29, 2021, 05:22:54 AM

I saw, (and still see) him as an enabler.
This made me very disappointed in him and made me loose a lot of my respect for him.
There's always at least one different view, on any topic. There's no harm done by trying to see it/them as well.

For what it's worth, I'm disappointed with myself, too.

Not sure what I'm enabling, but just need to shrug this off as Arrie and myself not mixing together well.

To be honest, I don't care for or want anyone's respect. I'm just here to have fun. Kinda have a bit of a fresh perspective since taking a break from here and coming back.

I could be an Irishman with dwarfism, working as a foreign government plant, that's been tasked with interacting with this website as an information gathering OP for all you know.

I might even be a woman.

* BobLawblaw shrugs
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This is actually true for shitcoin holders Grin



Still better for him as it would probably provide him some income on regular basis but thinking doge is going to moon with fake hope is gonna get him nothing.

Edit : See he is far more happy in Amazon warehouse Job profile rather than holding memecoin which spills out the true reality in silence.
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September 29, 2021, 05:52:21 AM

Good morning!
I'm back after a nice 11 hour sleep and some coffee.

After some early morning thinking I think I know what started my anger. It was Jimbo's impolite post where he, for no reason, called my thoughts "covid propaganda" and told me to move that "crap" to Bobs thread.
That triggered me, had his post been a normal polite post I would probably just have written a normal post about why I don't like that and then just gone to Bob's thread.

This in combination with my disappointment in Bob triggered my harsh wording, (although I don't think sissy and snowflake are particularly harsh words).

I always figured Bob to be someone who would stand up for free speech and fight against cancel culture and not cave in to snowflake behavior, instead he appeased the "snowflakes" and started a thread for the cancelled. I saw, (and still see) him as an enabler.
This made me very disappointed in him and made me loose a lot of my respect for him.
Having said that, it's not Bobs fault that he doesn't live up to my expectations, so I won't pick on him any further, but I won't be apologizing either, I still think he's an enabler.

During my morning thinking I also realized something about Jimbo, but that's for another occasion.

And by that I'm done with the Bob skirmish.

There's always at least one different view, on any topic. There's no harm done by trying to see it/them as well.
Peace of mind is nothing that is to be found, but it's something that has to be created.

True, but it helps to be in the right environment.
When I moved from the city to the country I felt a piece of mind and a calmness I had never experienced before.
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September 29, 2021, 05:53:55 AM

I saw, (and still see) him as an enabler.
This made me very disappointed in him and made me loose a lot of my respect for him.
There's always at least one different view, on any topic. There's no harm done by trying to see it/them as well.

For what it's worth, I'm disappointed with myself, too.

Not sure what I'm enabling, but just need to shrug this off as Arrie and myself not mixing together well.

To be honest, I don't care for or want anyone's respect. I'm just here to have fun. Kinda have a bit of a fresh perspective since taking a break from here and coming back.

I could be an Irishman with dwarfism, working as a foreign government plant, that's been tasked with interacting with this website as an information gathering OP for all you know.

I might even be a woman.

* BobLawblaw shrugs

That made me laugh out loud, literally.
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I saw, (and still see) him as an enabler.
This made me very disappointed in him and made me loose a lot of my respect for him.
There's always at least one different view, on any topic. There's no harm done by trying to see it/them as well.

For what it's worth, I'm disappointed with myself, too.

Not sure what I'm enabling, but just need to shrug this off as Arrie and myself not mixing together well.

To be honest, I don't care for or want anyone's respect. I'm just here to have fun. Kinda have a bit of a fresh perspective since taking a break from here and coming back.

I could be an Irishman with dwarfism, working as a foreign government plant, that's been tasked with interacting with this website as an information gathering OP for all you know.

I might even be a woman.

* BobLawblaw shrugs

With enabler I meant helping the cancel culture guys, enabling them to move views they don't like out of the WO. Maybe a poor choice of word.
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September 29, 2021, 06:20:29 AM

.....
You way of saying : "I snatched a bag of cocaine into my rectum through an airport and it leaked so I needed hospitalization from the OD!" Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


...and I thought I had a weird sense of humor....

...and i thought savetherainforest is on every WO's ignore list...

Your political agenda is just your opinion. Smiley  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes
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September 29, 2021, 06:38:00 AM

What "majority", screaming the loudest doesn't make you a "majority".

English, use your english.

Who's screaming here?

I use English when playing pool... or at least I try.
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September 29, 2021, 07:31:00 AM

Blockstream bought Spondoolies remnant (people in the know understand what I am talking about).
My concern is that Chinese would stop producing miners. Maybe Blockstream has something lined up.
SOMEONE should step in (Samsung?), the only question is ensuring financing, chip supply and assembly.
It is NOT very easy as all US producers were either bad or went bankrupt.

Miner production is the last aspect that poses a threat to Bitcoin: it is the last centralized aspect of Bitcoin.
A crackdown on ASICS producers and foundries could hurt the system.
But its'...transitory.
In the long run, markets will readjust and new producers would come in to take their slice of the profits.




IT'S HAPPENING!



https://twitter.com/documentingbtc/status/1442955263149887490?s=21

Sorry, in a long run we are all dead, so this argument does not fly very far.
No doubt some might come at some point, but where are they now?
Nobody apart from another Chinese company or two wanted to challenge Bitmain for mass miner production, although there were many billions at stake.
I am not sure why.

All 'investors' on this forum underappreciate the mining aspect and VERY often pooh-pooh it.
However with no miners production for a couple years, I assure you that the price will stagnate as well. Why? Because hashing power is one important aspect to which people always point as a sign of bitcoin network growth. If there would be no growth in hashing power, I fully expect that the price might stagnate as well.
The 'investor' class here might argue that it ain't so and mining reacts to price and not vice versa, but bitcoin network IS based on mining, so I would respectfully disagree with such opinions. Who knows, maybe the price is sniffing out this possibility.

TL;DR with no new miners there will be no significant bitcoin price appreciation (let's make it a proclamation #1).

very bold prediction.

“stagnation” much like the USA congress a lot of shouting and no real legislation.
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I saw, (and still see) him as an enabler.
This made me very disappointed in him and made me loose a lot of my respect for him.
There's always at least one different view, on any topic. There's no harm done by trying to see it/them as well.

For what it's worth, I'm disappointed with myself, too.

Not sure what I'm enabling, but just need to shrug this off as Arrie and myself not mixing together well.

To be honest, I don't care for or want anyone's respect. I'm just here to have fun. Kinda have a bit of a fresh perspective since taking a break from here and coming back.

I could be an Irishman with dwarfism, working as a foreign government plant, that's been tasked with interacting with this website as an information gathering OP for all you know.

I might even be a woman.

* BobLawblaw shrugs

With enabler I meant helping the cancel culture guys, enabling them to move views they don't like out of the WO. Maybe a poor choice of word.

Yeah, we are usually faster with words than we're aware of the triggering emotions.
I can see valid points in both of your opinions. It's just that the underlying values seem to be very different.
Everybody is struggling with something, under the hood.  
This just affects all of our actions without us being aware.

For me, as an example, it's not fitting into this shitty society.
But here in WO it's different and that could well be the reason we're all still here.

Good morning!
I'm back after a nice 11 hour sleep and some coffee.

After some early morning thinking I think I know what started my anger. It was Jimbo's impolite post where he, for no reason, called my thoughts "covid propaganda" and told me to move that "crap" to Bobs thread.
That triggered me, had his post been a normal polite post I would probably just have written a normal post about why I don't like that and then just gone to Bob's thread.

This in combination with my disappointment in Bob triggered my harsh wording, (although I don't think sissy and snowflake are particularly harsh words).

I always figured Bob to be someone who would stand up for free speech and fight against cancel culture and not cave in to snowflake behavior, instead he appeased the "snowflakes" and started a thread for the cancelled. I saw, (and still see) him as an enabler.
This made me very disappointed in him and made me loose a lot of my respect for him.
Having said that, it's not Bobs fault that he doesn't live up to my expectations, so I won't pick on him any further, but I won't be apologizing either, I still think he's an enabler.

During my morning thinking I also realized something about Jimbo, but that's for another occasion.

And by that I'm done with the Bob skirmish.

There's always at least one different view, on any topic. There's no harm done by trying to see it/them as well.
Peace of mind is nothing that is to be found, but it's something that has to be created.

True, but it helps to be in the right environment.
When I moved from the city to the country I felt a piece of mind and a calmness I had never experienced before.

Your environment is affecting us more than we are aware.
In the end, we're just not made to live our life like sardines in a tin box.
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