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[seleme]

So the reason why the price is cheap is: somebody wants to do it, but they cannot coerce people to sell if they believe that it goes to the moon. So they instill as much fear as possible. Pretty well done..   Just remember - you only make money if you BUY in this kind of situations and SELL when it is toppy. Other way round you are sheep, baa baa.

Rather: the reason price is still up is because those who hold thousands of coins need other people to invest so that the price will go up. So they pay for ads and positive reviews, to keep spreading lies and hiding the uncomfortable facts.   

Jorgi, are you a paid troll? Serious question.

Probably he has taken on, by himseld, to be the useful idiot who support the government and the bankers. He is doing this in hope of being rewarded later on. A house slave, elevated over the general working slaves. He is a dog in a chain. What he doesn't know, is that when he is not useful anymore, he will be thrown under the bus, or directly in the meat grinder. Useful as biomass.

Nah, I think you guys are going over the line. He is not paid nor he will be awarded for his posts from anyone, there's nobody who would pay him to do it, tbh.

He is just intellectual troll who find this as some kind of perverse challenge for himself, he's probably licking his lips now how he is doing us here.

I0ve never seen anyone spending so much time on the subject he thinks it's a failure though, sad state of mind really.

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[hyphymikey]

I'm confused at who would sell over 1K BTC at these low prices. Unless they are dumping on a schedule no matter the price.

[spooderman]

My sentiments regarding this downtrend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNC2DUxJENY

That is all, your honor.

Haha excellent.

Also, Monday something happens to price. Goes up loads, or down quite a lot. I base this on NOTHING obviously, but I dunno, just kinda feels like what will happen.

That's what goes on here right?

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[windjc]

I'm confused at who would sell over 1K BTC at these low prices. Unless they are dumping on a schedule no matter the price.

The markets are following Houbi for a sign. Houbi is selling right now.

[gibbtek]

My sentiments regarding this downtrend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNC2DUxJENY

That is all, your honor.

Haha excellent.

Also, Monday something happens to price. Goes up loads, or down quite a lot. I base this on NOTHING obviously, but I dunno, just kinda feels like what will happen.

That's what goes on here right?

Anyone wanna subscribe to my newsletter?

lol yep

[Erdogan]

Why so defensive?? If you are a paid troll, are you allowed to deny it? I guess you would be. But your defensiveness makes it seem like you're more guilty.

If I were a paid troll, I would deny it, no? Silly question...

Tell me where I have "spread fear" without backing it up with argument.

Meanwhile I can tell you right away one of the lies that marketeers keep spreading: that "bitcoins will be extremely valuable because there can be only 21 million of them".  The truth is that there can be an infinte number of cryptocoins, any brand of them is just as good for commerce as any other, and there is no reason to believe that bitcoin will be among the ones that will succeed if they do succeed.

This has been refuted again and again. People want a secure, noninflating coin. Not evapourcoin. Not resourcecoin. They dont want coins for dogs or dope or sex. One coin. Not countrycoin, not citycoin. One international coin. They don't want a coin with more frequent blocks. Not premine. Not centralized. They want one coin.

Now there is competition, built on the sound principles of bitcoin, just another chain. Those kinds of coins could be competitors. Maybe one other, maybe two. But bitcoin is the first and the best protected coin. Even if two other coins should become just as prevalent,  that would only reduce the price of bitcoin by 3 at the endgame, when the maximum user mass has been achived. Most probably, altcoins could ever only reach a small part of the total value.

So moaning and grinding and harping of this nonproblem again and again, without even taking these points into consideration, well, that is trolling. Trolling is putting out a false claim, only to watch the common sense participants here wasting time repeating the arguments, repeating and rerepeating the real explanation. This way of working is exactly what is to be expected from a paid shill, a false grassroot which is called astroturfing. You are either that or you are ignorant, nonlogical, without common sense. It is also possible. Locked into a tunnel view, due to defect working of your left or right brain, broken, stupid, willfully ignorant, afraid, traumatized in your childhood. Something.

[fonzie]

@Erdogan .....

No wonder why everyone hates Bitcoin and the cultists behind it.

[Erdogan]

So the reason why the price is cheap is: somebody wants to do it, but they cannot coerce people to sell if they believe that it goes to the moon. So they instill as much fear as possible. Pretty well done..   Just remember - you only make money if you BUY in this kind of situations and SELL when it is toppy. Other way round you are sheep, baa baa.

Rather: the reason price is still up is because those who hold thousands of coins need other people to invest so that the price will go up. So they pay for ads and positive reviews, to keep spreading lies and hiding the uncomfortable facts.   

Jorgi, are you a paid troll? Serious question.

Probably he has taken on, by himseld, to be the useful idiot who support the government and the bankers. He is doing this in hope of being rewarded later on. A house slave, elevated over the general working slaves. He is a dog in a chain. What he doesn't know, is that when he is not useful anymore, he will be thrown under the bus, or directly in the meat grinder. Useful as biomass.

Nah, I think you guys are going over the line. He is not paid nor he will be awarded for his posts from anyone, there's nobody who would pay him to do it, tbh.

He is just intellectual troll who find this as some kind of perverse challenge for himself, he's probably licking his lips now how he is doing us here.

I0ve never seen anyone spending so much time on the subject he thinks it's a failure though, sad state of mind really.

To make it clear, i don't disagree with this. it is the most probable explanation-

[Erdogan]

@Erdogan .....

No wonder why everyone hates Bitcoin and the cultists behind it.

Yeah, people are generally superficial, they don't want to read negative things, they don't like angryness, they only want happines, and thruthiness.

[octaft]

Nah, I think you guys are going over the line. He is not paid nor he will be awarded for his posts from anyone, there's nobody who would pay him to do it, tbh.

He is just intellectual troll who find this as some kind of perverse challenge for himself, he's probably licking his lips now how he is doing us here.

I0ve never seen anyone spending so much time on the subject he thinks it's a failure though, sad state of mind really.

To make it clear, i don't disagree with this. it is the most probable explanation-

Or he could be testing his beliefs by presenting them to a heavily dissenting audience. I mean, it's roughly the same thing viewed from the outside, but with significantly less assumed derisive laughter and sadistic enjoyment on his end.

[spooderman]

Lol I smeared Jorge hours ago with my paid troll comment. I didn't expect it to still be a topic of discussion. I just don't see why anyone would spend so much time here rehashing (lol) tired old arguments AGAINST what this forum exists to promote. Why would someone do that?

And we know people are paid to do this.

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/

I mean this was "tinfoilhat" stuff not so long ago.

Jorge perhaps you are not what I say, and I'm not trying to annoy you, I just wonder why you spend what seems to be HOURS every day here doing what you do.

Your potential story in the year 2020:

"I spent a total of 6 months of my life on a bitcoin forum, not because I owned any, but to tell people I didn't know that it wouldn't work for reasons I would cycle around, that people would point to the well established debunkings of."

edit: just to add one thing: If you are genuine, let me remind you of something:

You can create, and you can destroy, change is inevitable.

[Erdogan]

Nah, I think you guys are going over the line. He is not paid nor he will be awarded for his posts from anyone, there's nobody who would pay him to do it, tbh.

He is just intellectual troll who find this as some kind of perverse challenge for himself, he's probably licking his lips now how he is doing us here.

I0ve never seen anyone spending so much time on the subject he thinks it's a failure though, sad state of mind really.

To make it clear, i don't disagree with this. it is the most probable explanation-

Or he could be testing his beliefs by presenting them to a heavily dissenting audience. I mean, it's roughly the same thing viewed from the outside, but with significantly less assumed derisive laughter and sadistic enjoyment on his end.

If so, he does it in a very unreasonable way, unprofessional, not in a way expected from a guy supposedly educated in the scientific method and discussion with peers.

[Taras]

Let's try to be nice now.  I know it can be challenging when you're born to contend for domination of the universe, but let's all try.

TA from another thread:

Log scale chart of complete bitstamp USD history.



Why might the latest pennant be such a different beast to the previous ones?

This is very interesting. On top of being interesting, it is salivating.
Below is my prediction for the next couple months.

WOW, it seems like the $1,242 high was so recent.
When we were this far from the $266 high, it felt like years.

[chessnut]

Huobi (!)

[spooderman]

Yay falling off a cliff again. Don't worry all you hodlers, it will do what the guy 2 posts above me said eventually, I just want the chance to buy back in at 400 where I foolishly sodl.

[Erdogan]

Lol I smeared Jorge hours ago with my paid troll comment. I didn't expect it to still be a topic of discussion. I just don't see why anyone would spend so much time here rehashing (lol) tired old arguments AGAINST what this forum exists to promote. Why would someone do that?

And we know people are paid to do this.

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/

I mean this was "tinfoilhat" stuff not so long ago.

Jorge perhaps you are not what I say, and I'm not trying to annoy you, I just wonder why you spend what seems to be HOURS every day here doing what you do.

Your potential story in the year 2020:

"I spent a total of 6 months of my life on a bitcoin forum, not because I owned any, but to tell people I didn't know that it wouldn't work for reasons I would cycle around, that people would point to the well established debunkings of."

And now i have no coins, my reals are useless, my wife left me, my kids won't see me, and I have just been invited to the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green factory. Please don't forget me, bitcointalk.

EDIT: Ok, time to stop this.

[octaft]

Nah, I think you guys are going over the line. He is not paid nor he will be awarded for his posts from anyone, there's nobody who would pay him to do it, tbh.

He is just intellectual troll who find this as some kind of perverse challenge for himself, he's probably licking his lips now how he is doing us here.

I0ve never seen anyone spending so much time on the subject he thinks it's a failure though, sad state of mind really.

To make it clear, i don't disagree with this. it is the most probable explanation-

Or he could be testing his beliefs by presenting them to a heavily dissenting audience. I mean, it's roughly the same thing viewed from the outside, but with significantly less assumed derisive laughter and sadistic enjoyment on his end.

If so, he does it in a very unreasonable way, unprofessional, not in a way expected from a guy supposedly educated in the scientific method and discussion with peers.

His opponents aren't exactly the pinnacle of class, either. People tend to act as they are treated. Treat them like assholes, they're gonna be assholes.

[fonzie]

See you @ 200$

Chinese traders want juicy fresh FIAT before the bank accounts get blocked. It´s december 15th again.

PANIC

[seldon]

Huobi (!)

what the f is going on with the f-ing chinese? starting to get pissed with btc

[chessnut]

any rumours about rumours? lol