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October 10, 2022, 04:57:42 PM
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Bad news from Portugal:

Portugal to start taxing crypto gains in next year’s budget plan

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Portugal to Start Taxing Crypto Gains in Next Year’s Budget Plan
Government to tax gains on crypto held for less than one year
Portugal is one of Europe’s most crypto-friendly nations

As we speak about Bitcoin crypto hodled for less than a year, this means the legislation should be quite similar to Germany’s.
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What's a buonty manager?

Also, I'm sick of hearing this prayer / little flag shite. There is no big sky daddy that is going to solve anything for you, no matter how much you wish for it.

Both Russia and Ukraine (with the heavy hand of NATO) are causing trouble as far as I can make out.

Neither side is in the right as far as I'm concerned.


People all over the world should leave each other the fuck alone.



If being an asshole means not mandatory hating all Russian people and excluding them from everything going forwards in life, then sure I'm an asshole.

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Bitcoin Oct. 10 chart alert - Quieter, sideways trading continues



Bitcoin-U.S. dollar prices are a bit weaker in early U.S. trading Monday. Bulls and bears continue to fight for near-term technical control amid quieter and sideways trading, with neither gaining much ground and still on a level overall near-term technical playing field. That suggests more sideways and choppy trading in the near term. Stay tuned!

Source: https://www.kitco.com/news/2022-10-10/Bitcoin-Oct-10-chart-alert-Quieter-sideways-trading-continues.html
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JUST IN: France will have spent €100 billion in 2021-2023 to fight inflation - Finance Minister

Fighting inflation by printing more money... Angry
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JUST IN: JPMorgan CEO tells CNBC the Federal Reserve will "push the US into a recession 6-9 months from now"
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JUST IN: US Federal Reserve to post operating loss for the first time in over a decade, Bloomberg reports.
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If government can print as many currency notes as they want then why am I charged with Tax???
Your premise is wrong.

They cannot print as much as they want without facing consequences.

You are charged tax because there is some attempt to make the whole system sustainable, but over the years and the ongoing abuses (and temptations) of governments to continue to spend beyond the sustainability of the tax revenue, which includes their having had ongoingly borrowed against themselves and having to service their own loans with tax revenues, then they are ongoingly spiraled into worse and worse circumstances in terms of having to print more money just to keep the system going.  

It's not a good thing, and for sure when they are in their earlier days of printing a lot of money, they start to believe that they can print as much as they want (or at least that is what they say), but they may well know better and just pray that they will not have to suffer the consequences.  

If we did not pay any taxes, then the problem would be even worse, yet don't get me wrong, I am not even suggesting that there might not be alternative ways to go about this.. I am trying to describe the system that exists rather than some fantasy system that would be totally based on printing without taxes.. that is even more looney than the already existing system in which spending is going beyond income and part of the explanation for spending going beyond income is that the abuses of the government officials (or whoever the fuck is allowed to print money) have been going beyond their ability to even service their own ongoing debts... which may well have to do with either spending too much or not having enough revenue coming in in previous years... The problem is related to both income and spending.. not just income as you seem to be lamely trolling us with such a dumb question - not that I have not heard others (even seemingly smart people) asking the same dumb question.   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

This is the biggest milestone for the Philippines, Binance and Bitcoin
 
Cryptocurrency users in the Philippines are quite large, that university is making rapid steps in the adoption of cryptocurrencies.
What is that?  What is the thing that they are adopting?

Fuck shitcoins.. my new years resolution..

Oh?  it's October.
Whatever you say JJG. I am taking it positively. This is one of the good initiatives. As they said, Those universities to offers Bitcoin and Crypto Courses in partnership with Binance.

I was not even responding to you.  I was responding to Ludmilla_rose ... yet sure, you have a right to clarify since you posted the original message.  Maybe if you had posted it more clearly in the first place, then Ludmilla_rose would not have gotten so distracted with the stupid-ass vague idea of crypto.

I wouldn't mind if they teach people how Bitcoin works in the Crypto course. If they can teach the mechanism of Bitcoin and other shitcoins mechanisms as well.

Yes.. devil is in the details regarding how various courses are taught.

Let the students decide what they should choose.

Are you saying that the truth doesn't matter?  Everyone can find their own truth?

I would recommend they teach more about security. If you don't know the details of Android and IOS, If you don't test the features, You won't be able to Judge which one is better.

There are a lot of ways to teach all kinds of subjects and people can do whatever the fuck they like when it comes to their own learning approaches.

I have preached a bitcoin first theme for a decently long time in terms of learning about bitcoin first before getting into shitcoins, and of course, if there are courses built around topics and a variety of inputs, then there are going to be a variety of ideas regarding how to teach things... so in that regard, they have to figure out how their courses will be taught and if some courses might have prerequisites to other courses or the way they structure within any course can have some institutional guidance but also instructor variance.


If there are no altcoins or shitcoins, you won't understand the importance of Bitcoin.

Fuck shitcoins.

So, I am taking it positively. JJG

I am positively telling you:  "fuck shitcoins"  The pumping of such topic is not relevant in this thread, unless you are connecting it with bitcoin.

Cheekmate - a wireless haptic communication device
Anyone can be a crack chess champion!
For Bob and DIY'er
https://learn.adafruit.com/cheekmate-wireless-haptic-communication?view=all

I heard about this story and just had to shake my head in stunned amazement.

Never mind the fun times of sticking vibrating things up your butt; let us not touch upon that.

I'm more interested in learning how to actually parse data from internal rectal vibrations.

Do they use morse code? Some other coded sequence of vibrations?

The mind simply boggles at the extremes some people go to cheat.

At competitive chess.

With specialized vibrating butt-plugs.

Retarded space rock...

Oh?  That would work pretty well if it is remote controlled, then like you suggested, Morse code or maybe some simpler kind of code would work really well..

So with chess a person might believe that they are playing a person, but instead they are really playing a sophisticated chess-winning computer / computer program, and each "next" move is communicated via butt plug Morse code.. .

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Full detail: https://www.newsweek.com/bitcoin-millionaire-zaryn-dentzel-beaten-fortune-stolen-masked-robbery-cryptocurrency-1645550
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Cheekmate - a wireless haptic communication device
Anyone can be a crack chess champion!
For Bob and DIY'er
https://learn.adafruit.com/cheekmate-wireless-haptic-communication?view=all


I heard about this story and just had to shake my head in stunned amazement.

Never mind the fun times of sticking vibrating things up your butt; let us not touch upon that.

I'm more interested in learning how to actually parse data from internal rectal vibrations.

Do they use morse code? Some other coded sequence of vibrations?

The mind simply boggles at the extremes some people go to cheat.

At competitive chess.

With specialized vibrating butt-plugs.

Retarded space rock...

they provide the full soure code for this hot device. yes, they use morse code.

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WPM = 15  #                Morse code words-per-minute
DOT_LENGTH = 1.2 / WPM  #         Duration of one Morse dot
DASH_LENGTH = DOT_LENGTH * 3.0  # Duration of one Morse dash

# Morse code symbol-to-mark conversion dictionary. This contains the
# standard A-Z and 0-9, and extra symbols "+" and "=" sometimes used
# in chess. If other symbols are needed for this or other games, they
# can be added to the end of the list.
MORSE = {
    "A": ".-",
    "B": "-...",
    "C": "-.-.",
    "D": "-..",
    "E": ".",
    "F": "..-.",
    "G": "--.",
    "H": "....",
    "I": "..",
    "J": ".---",
    "K": "-.-",
    "L": ".-..",
    "M": "--",
    "N": "-.",
    "O": "---",
    "P": ".--.",
    "Q": "--.-",
    "R": ".-.",
    "S": "...",
    "T": "-",
    "U": "..-",
    "V": "...-",
    "W": ".--",
    "X": "-..-",
    "Y": "-.--",
    "Z": "--..",
    "0": "-----",
    "1": ".----",
    "2": "..---",
    "3": "...--",
    "4": "....-",
    "5": ".....",
    "6": "-....",
    "7": "--...",
    "8": "---..",
    "9": "----.",
    "+": ".-.-.",
    "=": "-...-",
}

there is even a demo video! these guys have too much time...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAdLNVp8TWU
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Bad news from Portugal:

Brutte notizie dal Portogallo:

Portugal to start taxing crypto gains in next year’s budget plan

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Portugal to Start Taxing Crypto Gains in Next Year’s Budget Plan
Government to tax gains on crypto held for less than one year
Portugal is one of Europe’s most crypto-friendly nations

As we speak about crypto hodled for less than a year, this means the legislation should be quite similar to Germany’s.

I was going to send you an smerit for informing us.. but then I saw the profound basic errors of your ways that negated any smerit sending justification.. so my sending finger would just not move...


which largely means: Fuck crypto

I must say... even though you are a veteran who should know much moar better than that.. haven't you not learned nuttin over the years?... It is like a negative learning, no?  Peeps get worse rather than better with the passage of time.. they get corrupted by the ideas that are floating in the space out there. and then they start to believe:  "well 'everybody else' does it, so it must be ok.. blah blah blah."     

Bullshit!!!!...


Ie.. the italian stallion deserves a bat slappening or some other variation thereof..



hahahahaha


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JUST IN: France will have spent €100 billion in 2021-2023 to fight inflation - Finance Minister

Fighting inflation by printing more money... Angry
Source: Bitcoin Magazine

I will tell you something Crazy_Bitcoin.

Even though you cited the source for those words that you used in your post, you would be much more clear if you included some kind of quote to show that none of those words are your own..

So in some sense you are ONLY doing the bare minimum to NOT get into trouble because you are at least providing the source of the words.

If you were to add some of your own words too.. and to differentiate your words from the words of the citation, then you may well even earn a merit here and there... .. but yeah, it is a bit irritating that members don't seem to have any of their own ideas... to even say if they agree or disagree and why .. and many times, I suppose, we presume that any cited post would be cited because the member posting it is either in agreement  or disagreement with it, but we cannot always know which is which unless the member says.. even senior members are GUILTY of the same kinds of laziness...

It's not just a newbie merit-hunter members who are guilty of lack of individual contribution/analysis/assessment beyond merely just citing an interesting idea or an interesting meme/picture (quoting it in full without commentary).
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Cheekmate - a wireless haptic communication device

Anyone can be a crack chess champion!

For Bob and DIY'er

https://learn.adafruit.com/cheekmate-wireless-haptic-communication?view=all



There are no easy ways to become world champion. Sometimes you need to shove an uninflated coke bottle up your ass and translate the morse code of times you cum into you pants into viable chess moves. The man had a dream of becoming the best chess player. Who can blame him?


All a bunch of shite and unnecessary loss of life.

That's what every single war is.

We obviously have not yet evolved to the point where we no longer greed for the property/land/subordination of other humans.

According to Hobbes this is the state of nature - the war of all against all. He also said (freely translated from my German version) that humankind is the only form of life who takes an immense pleasure from watching other creatures having less (comfort, resources, riches etc.). For us humans it's never about having more than enough, it's about having more than others - no matter how plentiful it is already what you have. While this virtue made humankind fly to the moon (before others) it too is and will be what finally will get us all (or most of us) purged from that blue marble.

War is the normal for humans, it is only interrupted by short periods of peace. We were just a relatively lucky generation (until now).

Right now I do not so much think about where the next bull run peaks, I am more concerned if I/we will still be here to enjoy that peak as things escalate so quickly all around currently and there are enough players at the table taking profit from that situation which makes further escalations very likely.

The ones who do not die in wars get to live on and carry the torch of human evolution. Hopefully we survive until then as a species. But the chances are extremely low. But with every day that humans do not wipe each other out, the chances get a little higher, day by day.

That only works if the rotten apples let their life and the fine people survive. I fear the rotten apples are the ones sending the fine people to war, letting them starve, freeze etc. Also the longer it goes on, the more humans we get and the easier it will become to lit up that giant powder keg called humanity.

Kinda glass half-full / half-empty point of view I guess. Obviously my glass is half-empty. But that doesn't make me a pessimist, I am simply drinking too much too quickly Grin

I on the other hand am a realist.

Wars might be a phenomenon of natural evolution. Its an old relic of natural law. Improving the attribute of self-preservation on a genetic basis is what is keeping us from becoming extinct as a species.
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I guess he still had some cornz (if we could have classified cornz held with 3rd parties as actual cornz) left?  even after getting beaten and robbed?

By the way, 800 BTC is quite a large stash - even by early bird OG bitcoiner standards... One thing might be acquiring and/or accumulating that quantity of cornz in the sub $100 price time-frames which could have been 2013 or maybe even easier to accomplish prior to 2013 when frequently sub $10 cornz could be acquired.

Those were all before my time in bitcoin.. and the lowest that I ever purchased any cornz was for $180-ish in around January 2015, and that was only a small amount on the dip since I was also running out of money at that time, too.

So one thing would be accumulating a decently large quantity of coin, yet another thing would be to be able to hang onto that quantity of coins for many years, if we were to assume that the guy might have been in bitcoin since 2013 or even earlier.

Maybe it could be helpful to go through a little bit of a hypothetical to suggest that this guy would not have ONLY had 800 coins, but maybe he would  have had well over 1,000 coins at the bare minimum.. maybe even something in the ballpark of 1,500 coins would be more realistic as our bare minimum amount... and maybe he still has some coin.. I cannot imagine that a person with so many coins would either put them all with Celsius and/or to get robbed with the remaining portion of his stash..

So if we speculate by presuming a certain number of coins spent through attempts to protect one's stash from volatility (100+ BTC) and then some coins used for consumption (100+ BTC) and then some coins lost by robbery (300+ BTC) and some coins that he still might have (200+ coins) and the 800 Celsius coins..   For sure, I am speculating and there are maybe some better and more reasonable (and maybe even some categories that I had left out?), but based on the very little information that I have (I did not read the newsweek article, yet.. I did not see a link.. and I am a lazy fuck, sometimes) I have a hard time imagining a starting BTC stash of less than 1,500 coins.
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Price will remain flat until CPI data later this week.

It will explode ore implode.
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Price will remain flat until CPI data later this week.

It will explode ore implode.

COLA out this week also... a increase of 8.7% is expected, the highest in 40 years

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/social-security-2023-cola-increase-when-you-will-get-it/


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Happy Thanksgiving fellow Canucks.

Did the turkey dinner thing with family yesterday. Doing it again tonight with the regulars at one of our local bars.

That should do us for turkey until at least Xmas.

The real reason for thanksgiving isn't turkey though. It's for giving thanks.

We all have a lot to be thankful for.
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