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The SEC action said that the improper disposal of thousands of hard drives starting in 2016 was part of an “extensive failure” over a five-year period to safeguard customers’ data as required by federal regulations.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/09/morgan-stanley-pays-35m-penalty-for-extensive-failure-to-safeguard-customer-data/



Scumbags get a slap on the wrist, apparently the sheeples personal info isnt worth more than 7 mill a year fine.
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There is already a crunchy penis everyone can buy at their local supermarket.

(clearing my search history as I type)
can we get a proper photo shop of the Johnson about to enter the box maybe homerx?


Wew... caught my lil selfie.. just in time.




Almost reported that "lewd one."


I agree from a different perspective.

Getting our energy needs from oil and gas is the problem. Bitcoin mining could be powered by green energy. We could produce more than enough green energy for all our needs if big oil wasn't screwing everyone over by manipulating politicians in their favor.

I thought that bitcoin systems were adding towards the creation of better incentives for bitcoin miners to seek lower cost energy, and I did not know that bitcoin gave too many shits about which kind of energy as long as it was relatively cheaper in terms of not necessarily competing with higher energy demand areas.

So without even pushing to control the kinds of energy that bitcoin would use, it would somewhat naturally seek the less expensive stuff and therefore cause incentives that even off the places in which energy might be trapped or wasted - and therefore maybe even increasing incentives to produce more energy overall because bitcoin mining would be creating value where there had not previously been value.. potentially making the pie BIGGER for everyone.

You seem to be getting into dangerous territory, goldkingcoiner if you are suggesting that some kinds of energy production is bad or should be discouraged, and for sure there seem to be weird battles regarding energy production in recent time.. that seem to be devolving into telling people what kinds of energy they are permitted to use and not to use.. which then seems to exacerbate some of the worsening production issues.. or supply side issues.. and sure, it does not help to be having a BIG battle with Russia around this topic either..

I am not against "green energy" in principle but there seems to be a lot of weird control issues going on, and even the solution to high energy prices seems to be to print more money rather than to increase production of energy.. sure some of that energy can come from "cleaner" sources, but we should not be living in a time in which any of us should have to consider rationing energy and just that regular peeps should be able to have access to energy.. and of course, if there are shortages of energy.. it seems like a production side issue.. not as much of a demand issue.. and yeah incomes of people around the world is not equally distributed, either.


There's low hanging fruit too, no?.. and maybe a lot of the plastic does float to the surface.. perhaps perhaps.. are there any garbage patch experts in these here parts? 

I suppose that I could look it up on the interwebs, if I was more ambitious.

Who's paying for it?

What do they do with the garbage?

I heard that recycling is a scam, and it doesn't really happen on the scale that we had been told in the 70s... so there are various differences in the kinds of plastics that would NOT have much if any "recyclable" value... so then which kinds of plastics can actually be recycled.. and then are they sortable.. or are we just being sold a bag of tricks.. and there is not much if any value in recycling a large number of items that we previously thought to be recyclable?
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dumpster fire being burning:



SEC Claims All of Ethereum Falls Under US Jurisdiction
In a civil complaint against a crypto influencer, the SEC suggested that it believes the U.S. government has jurisdiction over all Ethereum transactions.
https://decrypt.co/110107/sec-ethereum-us-jurisdiction



SEC lawsuit claims jurisdiction as ETH nodes are 'clustered' in the US
https://www.fxstreet.com/cryptocurrencies/news/sec-lawsuit-claims-jurisdiction-as-eth-nodes-are-clustered-in-the-us-202209200404




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“The U.S.-based investors in Balina’s pool irrevocably committed to the transaction when, from within the United States, they sent their ETH contributions to Balina’s pool. At that point, their ETH contributions were validated by a network of nodes on the Ethereum blockchain, which are clustered more densely in the United States than in any other country. As a result, those transactions took place in the United States.

Airplanes are clustered more densely in the US than in any other country. As a result, US claims custody over everything on all of the airplanes.
Geese are clustered more densely in the US than in any other country during their migration. As a result, US claims custody over all geese.
Cars are clustered more densely in China than in any other country. As a result, China claims custody over all cars.

Oh wait it can go both ways, setting up another abhorrent precedence again, strike the last one.

Seems their logic is something like:

If you use airplanes in the US to perform illegal stuff, we don't care if you have also used planes for that stuff outside of the US.

They see a high enough probability that some of these investments were done through (and in) the US.  And at least partially they may be right.


However, the thing is their arguments don't have to be fully logical.  It's just a matter of being able to succeed with these arguments legally.

This kind of loose argumentation might also pose a risk for Bitcoin in the future, when it comes to legal decisions.  

Problem is the set precedence, if some X blockchain will be mined in China/Russia/Iran more than any other country, does that now mean that Chinese/Russias/Irans laws should be applied to all transactions on that blockchain?
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dumpster fire being burning:



SEC Claims All of Ethereum Falls Under US Jurisdiction
In a civil complaint against a crypto influencer, the SEC suggested that it believes the U.S. government has jurisdiction over all Ethereum transactions.
https://decrypt.co/110107/sec-ethereum-us-jurisdiction



SEC lawsuit claims jurisdiction as ETH nodes are 'clustered' in the US
https://www.fxstreet.com/cryptocurrencies/news/sec-lawsuit-claims-jurisdiction-as-eth-nodes-are-clustered-in-the-us-202209200404




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“The U.S.-based investors in Balina’s pool irrevocably committed to the transaction when, from within the United States, they sent their ETH contributions to Balina’s pool. At that point, their ETH contributions were validated by a network of nodes on the Ethereum blockchain, which are clustered more densely in the United States than in any other country. As a result, those transactions took place in the United States.

Airplanes are clustered more densely in the US than in any other country. As a result, US claims custody over everything on all of the airplanes.
Geese are clustered more densely in the US than in any other country during their migration. As a result, US claims custody over all geese.
Cars are clustered more densely in China than in any other country. As a result, China claims custody over all cars.

Oh wait it can go both ways, setting up another abhorrent precedence again, strike the last one.

Seems their logic is something like:

If you use airplanes in the US to perform illegal stuff, we don't care if you have also used planes for that stuff outside of the US.

They see a high enough probability that some of these investments were done through (and in) the US.  And at least partially they may be right.


However, the thing is their arguments don't have to be fully logical.  It's just a matter of being able to succeed with these arguments legally.

This kind of loose argumentation might also pose a risk for Bitcoin in the future, when it comes to legal decisions.  

Problem is the set precedence, if some X blockchain will be mined in China/Russia/Iran more than any other country, does that now mean that Chinese/Russias/Irans laws should be applied to all transactions on that blockchain?

american exceptionalism, I guess
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Blockchain explorer mempool.space has just gotten even more interesting.  They now have a diagram for each TX, which nicely complements the other visual tools.  One of the things I like the best about is it is useful for deciding how much of a fee you want to pay.  Before this, I almost always paid too much, losing them sats...

Anyway, here is an interesting coinjoin transaction:

https://mempool.space/tx/62c3fbd39790cc8157ac4a704700b0398f0b385f96589cf2b77b937a09e0fdce
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btc is just going to create derivatives on top and kill any price action.

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Blockchain explorer mempool.space has just gotten even more interesting.  They now have a diagram for each TX, which nicely complements the other visual tools.  One of the things I like the best about is it is useful for deciding how much of a fee you want to pay.  Before this, I almost always paid too much, losing them sats...

Anyway, here is an interesting coinjoin transaction:

https://mempool.space/tx/62c3fbd39790cc8157ac4a704700b0398f0b385f96589cf2b77b937a09e0fdce

If you are lazy to click, this is how it looks like:
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There's low hanging fruit too, no?.. and maybe a lot of the plastic does float to the surface.. perhaps perhaps.. are there any garbage patch experts in these here parts? 

I suppose that I could look it up on the interwebs, if I was more ambitious.

Who's paying for it?

What do they do with the garbage?

I heard that recycling is a scam, and it doesn't really happen on the scale that we had been told in the 70s... so there are various differences in the kinds of plastics that would NOT have much if any "recyclable" value... so then which kinds of plastics can actually be recycled.. and then are they sortable.. or are we just being sold a bag of tricks.. and there is not much if any value in recycling a large number of items that we previously thought to be recyclable?

Well, to add some more cents, there actually is Recycling (sort of), but the process/cycle it's not repeatable infinitely. Waste materials are ground to dust, added to various materials (you probably don't want to know about some of them, really...). These materials are then used in the making of products, the backside of floor panels, for example, as a filling material for all kind of uses, or even "green" plastic products.
But materials degrade and dissolve, become waste again, and then, even if fed into another cycle, a certain part slips into the environment. The pollution is delayed, it reminds me a bit of nuclear waste, which is just stored for future use (or catastrophe. better read the fine print...).
We could agree that plastic recycling is at least slowing down pollution through microplastic, but the majority of plastic waste is still just shipped to and buried in Africa or some other places, hopefully not those with a similar population-to-drinking-water ratio...
It just adds up to the problems we already brought to this world without knowing a solution. Thinking about tomorrow is fine, but one should think about next year, too  Wink

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btc is just going to create derivatives on top and kill any price action.



BTC is not going to create anything like that. But it's a known secret that the "financial elite" want to "tame Bitcoin" by incorporating derivatives.
In the long run, scarcity will strike. Nobody will get fuck-rich within a merket cycle when getting in now, but just watch at the whole picture while zooming out.
Coins on the exchange without trading them is just dumb, and lazyness probably never led to positive results.
If you got fiat you don't need for longer times, buy Bitcoin and protect your holdings. Thinking long term is crucial for success. You don't have to live the monk life to get more "money you don't need", but if you get comfortable with your living situation, you will identify a certain amount of money you are able to spend through DCA and lump sum strategies. From the "richest man of babylon" view, you could just easily look at your money as "future bitcoin" holdings. But first, you have to believe in Bitcoin.
Hope is weak, trust is strong. If you hope for high fiat gains to buy you stuff to show off to whoever, your'e still believing in fiat. Saylor pretty set some marks and dropped some strong statements what trust in Bitcoin really means. It needs a dramatic shift of view on the ecosystem.

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EDIT2: Astronomy news... I took everything apart and could actually repair some minor things, lowering repair cost. The mount is toast, but i spotted a better one on the 2nd hand market. If i make some bucks out of the defective parts on ebay, i should be able to replace it to get to do astrophotography again. I originally decided to assign a lower priority to restoring my astro gear, but since then i was looking at a clear night sky for two times already...

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BREAKING: Royal Family of Dubai company partners with CoinCorner to facilitate Bitcoin transactions in the UAE.

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I thought the 300 wma was a better indicator at least of what might replace the 200 wma as a long term bottom price marker for being in really good buying territory
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theymos doing what he does best...

Bravo....

Note that I've decided to suspend ad sales. These auctions will probably be permanently ended, and I'm not sure whether or in what form advertising in general will be continued. Maybe some ads will go up again fairly soon, or maybe there will never be any more ads; I haven't decided yet. The main reasons for this decision are:

Firstly, I'm finding it too difficult to determine which services are legit/safe and which are not. It takes me 30+ minutes to research each new service to reach at least some level of confidence in it, but at the end of this I often still don't feel fully confident. Bitcointalk.org is meant to be operated "as a service to the community", so it's very important to me that bitcointalk.org not be seen to be putting profit above the interests of its users. (I've been kind of shocked at the crypto-related ads that are shown on TV, which are often way beyond anything I'd accept here. And I'd like to tighten our standards.)

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Finally, bitcointalk.org has a large reserve of BTC, so we're able to continue operating without ad revenue for many years. It's not even necessary to cut expenses or find replacement sources of revenue anytime soon, and I currently have no solid plans to do these things. I do regard it as less than ideal to be operating at a constant loss, especially because it constraints any desired future growth in expenses. Improving this situation will be on my mind in the coming years, but luckily it need not be a high priority.

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BREAKING: Royal Family of Dubai company partners with CoinCorner to facilitate Bitcoin transactions in the UAE.

Source: Bitcoin Magazine

Not only that, the Seed Group will help CoinCorner expand their operations in the UAE and access top decision makers in the public and private sectors. If there is good news of btc around, we can see Btc up very soon. Roll Eyes

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