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April 14, 2023, 05:48:48 AM

$1,000,000 in 63 days.
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April 14, 2023, 06:14:21 AM
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Some days I wake up and think "Huh... I wonder how mindrust is doing since he panic sold his bags at the bottom? I wonder what the fiat value would be worth today if he held..."

Today is one of those days.
today's value about 300k.
he said he got out almost break even. became a shitcoin advocate after that... probably still is

If you are not willing to take paper losses in your first cycle, Bitcoin is not for you I guess

Well, of course none of us can completely speak for mindrust, and he did stick to his word (so far) in terms of not coming back to the WO thread anymore... but sure of course, he is still active on the forum, but he is largely attempting to "do his own thing," and sure maybe part of his problem was that he was overly sharing some of his details... and yeah, sometimes any of us could get overly emotional in regards to our stash of lillie precious and end up "overly sharing" details.

I am pretty sure that for mindrust, it was a bit more than a whole cycle.. and sure maybe he was trying to rush matters, because he said that he was quite sure that he made too many mistakes in the 2014 to 2017 timeframe because he got too much caught up into a variety of shitcoins and he lost quite a bit of money by playing that game, and you can see that he had a registration date in 2013, so there is some credibility to his claims of having had fucked up and had not hardly made any money, and so in some sense, it would have been his second cycle that was for him to be trying to make up for his mistakes of his first cycle.. so part of the problem in terms of trying to make up for mistakes, but not necessarily realizing the mistake may well have been his inclinations to gamble, so he ends up way overly investing into bitcoin in the second cycle, in such a way that he thought that he was going to be fucked if the BTC price kept dropping below $4,500-ish around the price that he sold all of his BTC stash, which was 10 BTC at that time (based on his then representations).  

Many of us likely realize that it can be difficult to see our mistake when we are in the midst of it... and even if we can see the mistake we still can have real strong obstacles keeping us from sufficiently snapping out of our posture.. or some play that we made that was not necessarily a good idea (which  was selling them all at $4,500-ish).

More than three years later, and he is still having difficulties facing the issue with us... and maybe he just sees the world differently.. or maybe he just does not want to confront that part of his history - which does seem to be problematic, especially since he had already been pretty extremely public about it.. but I suppose if he does not attempt to address it then then he feels some value in "not going there" and considering "going there" to be a waste of his time.  

No matter what, if mindrust would have had a straight eye at the facts, history, developments and user base or current state of adoption of Bitcoin, he would have had the strongest reason for NOT selling the bottom: Trust.
Some day he explained his nickname actually means "peace of mind", which is kind of contrary to his gambling move, when he actually lost the peace-of-mind, or i possibly didn't get the meaning of his explanation right.
He could handle the consequences by just admitting he had a wrong view at Bitcoin. He didn't learn that the value of BTC is actually (much) higher than the value of fiat money, and that - as most of us know by now - is an implicit fact. Some call it scarcity, i heard...
* OutOfMemory switching off irony-mode

So i think the main problem was not getting overinvested in Bitcoin (like i am, for example), but looking at it from the wrong perspective. Like a fast-forward-savings-account, or a loan with high rates, a mysterious money doubling machine, of the likes.
Whores get exploited, you know. Even if it was an awesome fuck, it left him feeling empty.

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It's our fault for wanting to talk about the realities of life and the realities of dealing with extreme volatility and even like battles going on out there...  ... and his case (circumstances) was (were) so text book perfect.. or nearly text book perfect..

Yeah. It's a thing of perspective. He became some kind of ... legend to the WO, but not exactly in the best of ways  Tongue
At least, he could also be proud not to be forgotten in these here parts. Like Roach (if still alive) among others, most of us know the (nick)names.
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April 14, 2023, 07:02:53 AM

$31K! This rally is going strong! Hard to believe there is so much buying going on right now. I wonder where a majority of the buying is coming from. I suspect a lot of it is retail buying outside the US or possibly investment funds who realize we’ve moved passed the bottom for this cycle. Feels a lot like we might be headed to $45K before this rally stops.
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Okay. I have a question. Is Taproot Upgrade is Smart Contract? How Taproot upgrade helped Bitcoin? I am puzzled after reading some articles. Maybe it is because I am not understanding how it works. One article said the Taproot upgrade enables verifying multiple signatures at once. Another article said it's a smart contract upgrade. How it's related to SegWit? Wasn't SegWit upgraded before the Taproot upgrade? SegWit departs the signatures data. The block already contains more data after the SegWit Upgrade. So, what Taproot did do?

Sounds kind of technical for these here parts, but hey?  maybe some guy might be willin to go down the 'splainin path with you, but not this here cat.  i am too busy with non-technical matters.. or at least I see that there are a variety of wallet option types and some support legacy only, or legacy segwit or segwit with bech 32 or taproot (I think in that order), and I fucking have hardly any clue regarding when to use which, even though it seems that I have been using bech 23 addresses a lot recently and it got me into a bit of quagmire once (just last week when I sent a legacy segwit to a bech 32 address and then it kind of got lost for a while - did not go through.. yet I was able to send it again (after about 4 days of my wondering where the transaction had gone.. it was a decently sized transaction.. just saying.. but whatever all is good in JJG landia in regards to not having had lost those BTC that I had tried to send from a legacy segwit to a segwit with bech 32 address.. whatever the fuck that means? #justsaying)...
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Taproot is not a smart contract in the traditional sense, but it is an upgrade to Bitcoin's scripting language that can enable more advanced smart contract functionality. Taproot is a soft fork upgrade that was activated on the Bitcoin network in November 2021.

One of the main benefits of the Taproot upgrade is that it improves Bitcoin's privacy and security by allowing more complex transactions to be executed while appearing as a simple transaction on the blockchain. This is achieved through a technique called "Merkleized Abstract Syntax Trees" (MAST), which allows multiple possible spending conditions to be hidden within a single transaction, making it difficult for external parties to determine which conditions were actually used.

Taproot also enables the implementation of advanced multi-signature schemes, which can be used to enhance the security of Bitcoin transactions. With Taproot, multiple signatures can be aggregated into a single signature, reducing the amount of data needed to be stored on the blockchain. This reduces transaction fees and allows for more efficient use of Bitcoin's limited block space.

In terms of its relationship to SegWit, Segregated Witness (SegWit) was a previous soft fork upgrade that was activated on the Bitcoin network in August 2017. SegWit separated the transaction signature data from the transaction data, which allowed for more transactions to be included in each block. Taproot builds upon SegWit by further optimizing the way transactions are structured and by enabling more advanced smart contract functionality.

In summary, Taproot is an upgrade to Bitcoin's scripting language that enhances privacy, security, and scalability while enabling more advanced smart contract functionality. It builds upon the benefits of SegWit by further optimizing transaction structure and enabling more complex spending conditions to be hidden within a single transaction.
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Americans’ IQ scores are trending in a downward direction. In fact, they’ve been falling for over a decade.

According to a press release, in studying intelligence testing data from 2006 to 2018, Northwestern University researchers noticed that test scores in three out of four “cognitive domains” were going down. This is the first time we’ve seen a consistent negative slope for these testing categories, providing tangible evidence of what is known as the “Reverse Flynn Effect.”

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a43469569/american-iq-scores-decline-reverse-flynn-effect/


Yup its official.

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Taproot is not a smart contract in the traditional sense, but it is an upgrade to Bitcoin's scripting language that can enable more advanced smart contract functionality. Taproot is a soft fork upgrade that was activated on the Bitcoin network in November 2021.

One of the main benefits of the Taproot upgrade is that it improves Bitcoin's privacy and security by allowing more complex transactions to be executed while appearing as a simple transaction on the blockchain. This is achieved through a technique called "Merkleized Abstract Syntax Trees" (MAST), which allows multiple possible spending conditions to be hidden within a single transaction, making it difficult for external parties to determine which conditions were actually used.

Taproot also enables the implementation of advanced multi-signature schemes, which can be used to enhance the security of Bitcoin transactions. With Taproot, multiple signatures can be aggregated into a single signature, reducing the amount of data needed to be stored on the blockchain. This reduces transaction fees and allows for more efficient use of Bitcoin's limited block space.

In terms of its relationship to SegWit, Segregated Witness (SegWit) was a previous soft fork upgrade that was activated on the Bitcoin network in August 2017. SegWit separated the transaction signature data from the transaction data, which allowed for more transactions to be included in each block. Taproot builds upon SegWit by further optimizing the way transactions are structured and by enabling more advanced smart contract functionality.

In summary, Taproot is an upgrade to Bitcoin's scripting language that enhances privacy, security, and scalability while enabling more advanced smart contract functionality. It builds upon the benefits of SegWit by further optimizing transaction structure and enabling more complex spending conditions to be hidden within a single transaction.

I like the thought of ChatGPT registering an account on bitcointalk and occasionally taking part in our lil WO discussions, lately.
And $31k !woot!woot!  Grin Cool
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When the price was stuck at $28k, I called out for it to go up!!! and some a$$hole said it's too good to be true.
Welcome $31k now Cheesy
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Bitcoin price reaches $31,000 for the first time since June 2022. Cool
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When the price was stuck at $28k, I called out for it to go up!!! and some a$$hole said it's too good to be true.
Welcome $31k now Cheesy

Reminds me of my brother in law again, who said Bitcoin will never be sold above $10k ever again (when it was $6k after the 2017 blow-off). (EDIT: nah, i think it was higher, sub $9k-ish or so)
But, if you remind yourself how many people still believe in $$$ (fiat) for such a long time on this planet, the a$$hole-to-bitcoiner ratio turns out clearly in their favour "favour".
Opinions are not facts (My latest unconventional, personal saying of truth btw.)
It's also true for you, just to make it clear  Tongue
But that's just uhm... my opinion, you know...
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$31K in one hour confirmed


This could be the one

got to 30864 which is very close


edit and got to 30936 which is AYH


Yeah, Observe $31k over out soon when the next group is in... Wink
It seems to me that it will cross $31k with a little more deposit left... Wink




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Quote from: ChatGPT
Taproot is not a smart contract in the traditional sense, but it is an upgrade to Bitcoin's scripting language that can enable more advanced smart contract functionality. Taproot is a soft fork upgrade that was activated on the Bitcoin network in November 2021.

One of the main benefits of the Taproot upgrade is that it improves Bitcoin's privacy and security by allowing more complex transactions to be executed while appearing as a simple transaction on the blockchain. This is achieved through a technique called "Merkleized Abstract Syntax Trees" (MAST), which allows multiple possible spending conditions to be hidden within a single transaction, making it difficult for external parties to determine which conditions were actually used.

Taproot also enables the implementation of advanced multi-signature schemes, which can be used to enhance the security of Bitcoin transactions. With Taproot, multiple signatures can be aggregated into a single signature, reducing the amount of data needed to be stored on the blockchain. This reduces transaction fees and allows for more efficient use of Bitcoin's limited block space.

In terms of its relationship to SegWit, Segregated Witness (SegWit) was a previous soft fork upgrade that was activated on the Bitcoin network in August 2017. SegWit separated the transaction signature data from the transaction data, which allowed for more transactions to be included in each block. Taproot builds upon SegWit by further optimizing the way transactions are structured and by enabling more advanced smart contract functionality.

In summary, Taproot is an upgrade to Bitcoin's scripting language that enhances privacy, security, and scalability while enabling more advanced smart contract functionality. It builds upon the benefits of SegWit by further optimizing transaction structure and enabling more complex spending conditions to be hidden within a single transaction.

I like the thought of ChatGPT registering an account on bitcointalk and occasionally taking part in our lil WO discussions, lately.
And $31k !woot!woot!  Grin Cool

I really hope that doesn't happen. While i am not against using ChatGPT to help answer question, i think a straight copy and paste isn't the best way to utilize such a powerful tool.

There is a post earlier in the thread that pointed towards the lowering of overall IQ. I don't think that trend is going to reverse anytime soon, especially with the advent of ChatGPT and AI.

I mean, did you really understand what Segwit and Taproot is? based on the answer above?, if not, then how would you expect someone else too, right?...

And if you did understand it, i would have really, really, appreciated the response more, if you took the time and wrote what you thought it was/is, based on the ChatGPT response or research you had conducted.
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if you think you will get merited, because you copy stuff from twitter into the WO, you are in the wrong thread.

there is no appreciation for people who just come here and use the WO to farm merits with the least amount of effort.

it's lazy ...and also disrespectful to abuse the community for your gain...  

many WOers don't like that.  Think about it... do you like lazy and disrespectful people??

you come off like a beggar with bad attitudes shouting at everyone to give you money.


how about trying to bring something to the WO by your own writing that has some value to the people here?  And most importantly, don't expect merits for it!  They will come naturally, when people see that you are not here for the merits
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Me too. I wonder why he did it. Publicity?
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