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Spring is coiled boys. The pressure keeping it down cannot sustain the effort. Next ATH we move violently upward. Think $140k falls quickly, and falls this month.
The market won’t go up just because you or i want it to. it always moves by its own rules. sometimes it even loses its direction. if i think the market will hit 140k+ this month, is that really possible? of course not. i don’t think it will reach 140k+ before another correction. and if it does, what will the dumpers do? it’s true that compared to past years, btc has pumped many times this year. the time will come when its price will skyrocket, maybe even reach 1m. but 140k this month is maybe not possible.

Going to dance around ATH for a few days. Then going to blast through. Empty air above $125k. Will push to $140k fast. Daddy Bitcoin is about to blow some people's minds again. Been a while. But the old whales are running out of juice, very little left to sell. The new whales are insatiable. And Trump is terrifying everyone who holds US debt, they need to hedge. Gold and BTC about to show why debt instruments are shit compared to bearer instruments. Buckle up. The world is changing more than it has since the 70's. New world order....not in a conspiracy type meaning, but just in a different world type meaning 
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I console myself by saying the physical work replaces the pushup routine for the time being.
Since the greenhouse is hot as hell taking out 500-600 pound is working in a sauna.

This morning after I eat breakfast I will drive to the scalper and pick up some cash.
price is still $1.15 a pound




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Holy fucking shit Phil!!!!

If it makes you feel good to be engaging in that level of work in regards to the physically tangible and in touch with the world kinds of activities, then so be it.

I kind of liken it to a kind of proof of work that involves digging a hole in the back yard and filling it back in for the mere  sake of showing that you had been working, yet you end up getting little to no product out of it, except the sweat, perhaps blood and tears of the physical labor that was involved in order to produce such proof of work.

Another thing.

I understand a young guy having to do whatever it takes, including using whatever resources that he has (such as physical strength) to involve himself in a variety of activities to give himself bragging rights and even to be involved in the world and finding his ways, yet by the time any of us are getting into our 60s (and/or late 60s at that), we are hopefully figuring out ways to elect our physical activities rather than being forced into them based on financial circumstances.

By the way, Phil.  Did you get any pleasure out of doing these activities? Did anyone help you?

I remember several times in which I moved a lot of stuff around with my car with multiple trips (such as moving from one rental unit to another) and also even some business activities that could be done with my car (and multiple trips) rather than the harassing nature of renting a truck and having to do all of it at one time, the work could be spread out over several days or even weeks, in some cases.  So I am not going to deny that I have sometimes employed my own physical labor to circumstances that might have had otherwise been more efficient to do in other ways. 

As you likely appreciate, in this thread, we are largely attempting to talk mostly about bitcoin (and sometimes related topics), so you have a formidable foe in terms of trying to persuade that lugging around a bunch of copper is a good alternative means of making some money, even if you might now be proclaiming to fold your quasi-unimpressive profits into bitcoin.  Maybe you are engaged in this part of the conversation in order to convince some of us how superior bitcoin is to the seemingly physically burdensome path that you had chosen for ur mortal lil selfie (as if it were to be a good thing for a 6 year old to be lugging around hundreds (or is it thousands since you have several trips?) of pounds of "precious" metals and their wrappings.)?   Tongue Tongue Tongue

Guys, did anyone manage to claim those MIDNIGHT tokens? Did it go smoothly for you? Their website keeps telling me my addresses are empty.  Sad

Does not seem like a good use of time, energy and putting value at risk.  How much did you get?  and/or how much did you expect to get?

paypal is an easy way to kyc coin.  of course you do not fully control it.
But I see no issue in having 10% or less of your corn in PayPal's hands.

I have  btc there.
and off I go to the scrapper.
and back from the scrapper $683 for this load of wire.
maybe 10-12 to do.

Ouch!!!  It hurts me, just to think about it.

Today is the day that I've been saying would be the top for Bitcoin for quite some time.  I've actually been eyeballing today for basically the last 4 years.  Now that it is here I don't want to sell any Bitcoin, but I may sell a tiny bit just to stick to the plan...  There's a ton of bullish news out there and with December looking like it will be the MSTR inclusion period, I have mentally begun making excuses that my sell date should be moved to December 16th.  We will see how that plays out for me, but I've definitely started watching the exits.  

Doesn't sound like a great strategy to me, but hey, if you think that it works and/or has worked for you in the past, then so be it.

If you really examine the situation, you likely have not profited from your way of dealing with bitcoin as a trade, and I doubt that it is a good practice to try to play waves like you seem to be advocating.
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I console myself by saying the physical work replaces the pushup routine for the time being.
Since the greenhouse is hot as hell taking out 500-600 pound is working in a sauna.

This morning after I eat breakfast I will drive to the scalper and pick up some cash.
price is still $1.15 a pound




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Holy fucking shit Phil!!!!

If it makes you feel good to be engaging in that level of work in regards to the physically tangible and in touch with the world kinds of activities, then so be it.

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  This one approximates philipma1957's triangle.

 
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  "The grand essentials to happiness in this life are something to do, something to love, and something to hope for."
 
~George Washington Burnap, [The sphere and duties of woman : a course of lectures]

  I translated this into geometric form - "The Triangle of Happiness"
  This one approximates philipma1957's triangle.

 

Important correction: BC side should be "something.to.love",  not "someone.to.love".
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  "The grand essentials to happiness in this life are something to do, something to love, and something to hope for."
 
~George Washington Burnap, [The sphere and duties of woman : a course of lectures]

  I translated this into geometric form - "The Triangle of Happiness"
  This one approximates philipma1957's triangle.

 

Important correction: BC side should be "something.to.love",  not "someone.to.love".

Well he got it correct as I have someone.to.love my wife.
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  "The grand essentials to happiness in this life are something to do, something to love, and something to hope for."
 
~George Washington Burnap, [The sphere and duties of woman : a course of lectures]

  I translated this into geometric form - "The Triangle of Happiness"
  This one approximates philipma1957's triangle.

 

Important correction: BC side should be "something.to.love",  not "someone.to.love".

Well he got it correct as I have someone.to.love my wife.

For you, yes, but it's not what George Washington said...
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I console myself by saying the physical work replaces the pushup routine for the time being.
Since the greenhouse is hot as hell taking out 500-600 pound is working in a sauna.

This morning after I eat breakfast I will drive to the scalper and pick up some cash.
price is still $1.15 a pound




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Holy fucking shit Phil!!!!

If it makes you feel good to be engaging in that level of work in regards to the physically tangible and in touch with the world kinds of activities, then so be it.

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~George Washington Burnap, [The sphere and duties of woman : a course of lectures]

  I translated this into geometric form - "The Triangle of Happiness"
  This one approximates philipma1957's triangle.

 

This is the kind of post I referred to the other day.
Thank you, WO.

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Geniality on full display...  Shocked

You have likely worn out your welcome, even when several members have tried to help you out on numerous occasions, and you have abused any possibility of being received with “geniality” or warmth.

Furthermore, your ongoing prodding (including your recent stirring of the pot with the boldenings (and unnecessary shouting, with large text) begs for some kinds of a tag, perhaps a red one?

It seems to me that you have surpassed three strikes, already.

Not that I count on this, but Oracle's example made me thinking; what is the probability of a 40% one day spike in btc upon, for example, an announcement that US already bought, say 200K additional bitcoins?

Imho, not zero, so maybe a small amount invested in out of the money MSTR (or even IBIT) calls dated, say, January, or even a bit later make sense.

I don't have any problem in regards to placing some kind of a possibility that BTC spikes 40% in a day or some other short-term spike that plays out for 1 to 3 weeks or even longer.

We already know dee cornz behaves like that on a fairly regular basis, so the exact specifics regarding which piece (or pieces of news or hype) need not be important.

Many of us already are overly weighted long in regards to bitcoin and/or have been stacking bitcoin - or already had stacked bitcoin years back as a kind of front running out of realization that these kinds of matters could play out. So you are really proposing anything outlandish in the eyes of guys who had been studying the cornz.

I don't dabble in various financial instruments to leverage those kinds of plays, since they likely cost some money to keep open, so I am not sure if they are key to getting richie on bitcoin since bitcoin has already given and likely to continue to give richie and more richie than expected, even without playing around with extra instruments (and no need to bet anything other than keeping an ongoing relatively aggressive allocation in dee cornz). .which can also be known as just letting your winners ride (namely bitcoin) without ever really cashing out of it (except in small doses as many of us already ongoingly practice some version of the shaving off of slivers from time to time).

Today is the day that I've been saying would be the top for Bitcoin for quite some time.  I've actually been eyeballing today for basically the last 4 years.  Now that it is here I don't want to sell any Bitcoin, but I may sell a tiny bit just to stick to the plan...  There's a ton of bullish news out there and with December looking like it will be the MSTR inclusion period, I have mentally begun making excuses that my sell date should be moved to December 16th.  We will see how that plays out for me, but I've definitely started watching the exits.  
you thinking that such a prediction could be accurate amazes me actually...

He's retarded in his ongoing self-absorption. Puts wannabe sorcery on another plain.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Today is the day that I've been saying would be the top for Bitcoin for quite some time.  I've actually been eyeballing today for basically the last 4 years.  Now that it is here I don't want to sell any Bitcoin, but I may sell a tiny bit just to stick to the plan...  There's a ton of bullish news out there and with December looking like it will be the MSTR inclusion period, I have mentally begun making excuses that my sell date should be moved to December 16th.  We will see how that plays out for me, but I've definitely started watching the exits.  
I respect your ddiscipline and enthusiasm.......Whether it is today or in December you decide to sell, what matters is that you have prepared yourself ahead of time. In the end, Bitcoin as we know always has the habit of rewarding patience and a good strategy over unnecessary impulse

Bitcoin does not necessarily reward those who sell with expectations of buying back cheaper.

So there is that angle, too.

In other words, I doubt that viewing bitcoin as a trade (even to try to play the presumptive BIGGER price waves) is a smart way of treating one of the best (if not the best?) of assets that any of us have ever witnessed in our lifetime and such same paradigm-shifting asset is available to everyone and/or anyone around the world... but some guys want to act like they are so smart as to be able to trade it.  It might be more sad than it is funny in a kind of ironic way.

I've read an interesting piece about a possible "up before down" gesture. Time horizon: up to the 1st or 2week of October. It makes sense to me.
https://www.newsbtc.com/bitcoin-news/bitcoin-short-squeeze-long-trap-october/

If she follows liquidity (as she does more often than not), the juiciest path is to eat the high shorts first (up, right now), and go for the late longs as a dessert after that. I emphasize "late longs", straying into gambling: heavy and high. It's not like the whales, whoever that might be, can necessarily push the number below 0.080 - but if 0.095 means annihilation, even on a wick, that's too much leverage at too high a price. Keep it safe.
(Numbers are in M$ because reasons. Basically, it's quite cool IMO.

Sounds too bearish to me, even though Up before down is fun.. I just don't like the down part that is being contemplated in the package, as if it were to be necessary.  

But, what do I know?

I kind of like the up before more up version.... but whatever, I will go with the flow whether it is up before down, or up before up or even down before up or down before down.. .. even though the up versions still seem to be in the cards, even though a bunch of bitcoin geeks are likely to get rich as fuck from such price move, yet at the same time, there is likely way more pain to be felt by 99% of the world's population who choose (wittingly or unwittingly) to remain no coiners or low coiners.

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tariffs raised the scrap price so I have to thank orange man bigly.

A stroke of luck to save your ass (#nohomo) from a less than ideal investment (especially when dee cornz was a competing option).

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What’s amazing to me is that this will be the fourth time it’s happened.
Don’t listen to me though. Watch this instead.
https://youtu.be/eCXaCSVhivI?si=M62NPB5I8NIX6tIt

We are in bubble territory already and “the Titanic has hit the iceberg.”
I think we go higher, but looking back there will be a lot of people who wish they had started taking profits here instead of trying to time the top, which we will definitely hit in the next 100 days if we haven’t already.
EDIT: May i as well ask how?
Men lie. Women lie. The four year cycle doesn’t.

Referring to the Pompliano interview that you linked, gotta question your judgement  (not that it is the first time) when you are getting investment (really trading) advice from bear-tards - even if they sound smart on the surface. You are just likely to follow (or believe) the same things that you hear from others.

But, hey, whatever.  You might end up being correct.. perhaps?
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  "The grand essentials to happiness in this life are something to do, something to love, and something to hope for."
 
~George Washington Burnap, [The sphere and duties of woman : a course of lectures]

  I translated this into geometric form - "The Triangle of Happiness"
  This one approximates philipma1957's triangle.

 

The idea of a right-angled “triangle of happiness” is great. It seems to imply that our lives also move forward with three corners: work, love, and hope. These are three important like directions, wherever we turn our eyes, their imprint is there.

If we look at history then we can see that whether it is a great creation or a difficult struggle these three corners of the triangle have worked in the background of our life. Love does not run straight like a curved line of geometry, sometimes high, sometimes low; yet within it lies the continuous beauty of illusion.

Life is also full of ups/downs. We learn to maintain balance as we walk the curved path of rules and regulations. When viewed from a distance, the “triangle of happiness” seems like an engraving on the wall of an ancient temple that has survived time, and is silently teaching: many things are beautifully maintained in the triangular shape.

Finally, this is not just a philosophy point, it is a map of the human heart.  Each line tells a story of emotion and the three angles together show what you do in life, who you love, and what you hope for. The path becomes clear.

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Today is the day that I've been saying would be the top for Bitcoin for quite some time.  I've actually been eyeballing today for basically the last 4 years.  Now that it is here I don't want to sell any Bitcoin, but I may sell a tiny bit just to stick to the plan...  There's a ton of bullish news out there and with December looking like it will be the MSTR inclusion period, I have mentally begun making excuses that my sell date should be moved to December 16th.  We will see how that plays out for me, but I've definitely started watching the exits.  

you thinking that such a prediction could be accurate amazes me actually...

What’s amazing to me is that this will be the fourth time it’s happened.

Don’t listen to me though. Watch this instead.

https://youtu.be/eCXaCSVhivI?si=M62NPB5I8NIX6tIt

We are in bubble territory already and “the Titanic has hit the iceberg.”

I think we go higher, but looking back there will be a lot of people who wish they had started taking profits here instead of trying to time the top, which we will definitely hit in the next 100 days if we haven’t already.


Thanks for the video. Watched it in full.

I think that guy has a lot of valid points but it doesn't seem that he gets the difference between crypto and Bitcoin. He also sees Bitcoin as a risk asset and gold as the safe haven.

The talk about a new form of world trade currency that is on "a Blockchain" sounds to me that that will likely be Bitcoin.

If all what he says happens, Bitcoin is likely to come out as the new world trade currency / reserve currency, which means we will be in the millions per coin.

Selling BTC at a cycle top bigly is really nice but that's only half of the gamble. if you don't get back onto the train again at the right time, you can easily lose the (generational) opportunity of your lifetime.

I think none of his arguments destroy the value proposition of Bitcoin.
If you successfully trade the cycles, great! But that's not a safe strategy for everyone. I think that would be hodling...

 

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