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May 15, 2014, 11:54:08 AM |
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Do you have any proof for that or just rumors?
Its a joke. There would be no way in the world to know if people high up in Chinese banking had bought BTCRumors , rumors but whenever I hear about the importance of China I feel like puking. It was a pump based on fake volume and assumptions. And what is worse , right now people believe that without China we should go back to 100 and ignore every progress made from last autumn. I don't think many people seriously think that, not ones who weren't perma bears anyway. There will always be something be it gox, China etc but its all about their severity. The China situation is a real threat in speculative terms but the actual weight of it is reducing. Even if its just a short pump the market is begging for a rally.
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May 15, 2014, 11:55:58 AM |
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New fiat will be trickling. Next big thing
In December, the bitcoin community turned to India as its next great hope after Chinese government statements caused the price to drop from its record high of $1,200. India is an emerging economy with a population of over a billion people, nearly half of whom are unbanked or under-served by banks. Another hype based on nothing.. I'm pretty sure the exchange will claim millions in volume while having 100 satoshi in it's wallet. The emerging countries , BRICS , myths about adoptions in Africa... The only real way for bit coin to grow is being used where people have enough money to spend and business eager to accept it. And that's the good old Europe and North America. Sorry but thats quite narrow minded, the amount of wealth in India and other Asian countries is humongous. Yes there are lots of poorer civilians there as well but to suggest that emerging countries dont have the money to spend is just incorrect.
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May 15, 2014, 11:56:38 AM |
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Suddenly I feel bearish, because because I feel bullish. Every time this happens, a sudden violent repressed downwards spike occurs. Last time it was Caixin which came out right after I finished buying. They do it just to make a fool of me.
You're one messed up teddy bear , TERA ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . I'm not a bear; I'm a chartist, and I try to add a rational level-headed perspective to things.
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May 15, 2014, 11:57:34 AM |
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Do you have any proof for that or just rumors?
Its a joke. There would be no way in the world to know if people high up in Chinese banking had bought BTCRumors , rumors but whenever I hear about the importance of China I feel like puking. It was a pump based on fake volume and assumptions. And what is worse , right now people believe that without China we should go back to 100 and ignore every progress made from last autumn. I don't think many people seriously think that, not ones who weren't perma bears anyway. There will always be something be it gox, China etc but its all about their severity. The China situation is a real threat in speculative terms but the actual weight of it is reducing. Even if its just a short pump the market is begging for a rally. Now , since we're talking about China , has anybody some links with shops , websites in China dealing with bitcoins? I've asked about this in December and in February and didn't get that much feedback:). Are there chinese actually holding bitcoins and not just speculating and trading?
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May 15, 2014, 11:57:59 AM |
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Close to log trendline on Huobi. New China FUD must be prepared as we speak ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) China is expected to ban Bitcoin again next week, possibly 4.30pm on Tuesday.
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May 15, 2014, 12:00:12 PM |
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Suddenly I feel bearish, because because I feel bullish. Every time this happens, a sudden violent repressed downwards spike occurs. Last time it was Caixin which came out right after I finished buying. They do it just to make a fool of me.
You're one messed up teddy bear , TERA ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . I'm not a bear; I'm a chartist, and I try to add a rational level-headed perspective to things. No , you're just trying to find in those charts of yours a reason to be the bear you are. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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May 15, 2014, 12:00:39 PM |
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Close to log trendline on Huobi. New China FUD must be prepared as we speak ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) China is expected to ban Bitcoin again next week, possibly 4.30pm on Tuesday. If we're following a master puppeteer theory, maybe this time they're trying to demoralize us with a false trendline break and lots of traders getting burned badly
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May 15, 2014, 12:00:47 PM |
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May 15, 2014, 12:00:54 PM |
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Suddenly I feel bearish, because because I feel bullish. Every time this happens, a sudden violent repressed downwards spike occurs. Last time it was Caixin which came out right after I finished buying. They do it just to make a fool of me.
You're one messed up teddy bear , TERA ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . I'm not a bear; I'm a chartist, and I try to add a rational level-headed perspective to things. You do seem quite emotionally charged while giving a rational level-headed perspective. I like your charts though, but the emotions are very visible in you. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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May 15, 2014, 12:03:08 PM |
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Now , since we're talking about China , has anybody some links with shops , websites in China dealing with bitcoins? I've asked about this in December and in February and didn't get that much feedback:).
Are there chinese actually holding bitcoins and not just speculating and trading?
I have no idea and you would be better off asking Chinese members of the forum. Its hard to get a translation on announcements let alone try and work out what they're mainly doing with their BTC.
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May 15, 2014, 12:04:46 PM |
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Suddenly I feel bearish, because because I feel bullish. Every time this happens, a sudden violent repressed downwards spike occurs. Last time it was Caixin which came out right after I finished buying. They do it just to make a fool of me.
You're one messed up teddy bear , TERA ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . I'm not a bear; I'm a chartist, and I try to add a rational level-headed perspective to things. You do seem quite emotionally charged while giving a rational level-headed perspective. I like your charts though, but the emotions are very visible in you. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I'ts usually me being upset over a person being irrational or making a false statement.
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May 15, 2014, 12:05:41 PM |
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Now , since we're talking about China , has anybody some links with shops , websites in China dealing with bitcoins? I've asked about this in December and in February and didn't get that much feedback:).
Are there chinese actually holding bitcoins and not just speculating and trading?
I have no idea and you would be better off asking Chinese members of the forum. Its hard to get a translation on announcements let alone try and work out what they're mainly doing with their BTC. I asked about a real translation in English in December when the first announce came in and I got nothing That chinese sub forum is full of people speaking only chinese I guess.
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May 15, 2014, 12:09:26 PM |
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Well well well, it would seem that the effect of Chinese events and Chinese trade is in fact proportional to China's volume after all. There have actually been many pieces of bad Chinese news in the past weeks which have failed to result in new lows or sometimes even a reaction at all. Meanwhile the volume of chinese exchanges has dwindled to about 1/3 of what it used to be. I suppose, barring a complete shutdown of the Chinese exchanges, we will need to see some news on an entirely different subject to continue the downtrend.
That makes sense. Fake or not, Huobi's volume was by far the largest of all the exchanges and most traders/investors will look where the most volume is and make their decisions based on that. So now that their volume is down the Chinese influence on the price went down as well. If the PBOC wants to gain back control of the price they had better find a way to increase the volume on the Chinese exchanges again or they will soon be history. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Why do you think they give a f** about BTC price? Well I think they care in the sense that they don't want the Bitcoin phenomenon to become too big in China. By keeping the price down they will keep interest and the hype down as well. Anyway they want to control it, because they want to control everything concerning the Chinese people. Also the timing of PBOC announcements seems a bit suspicious to me looking at the charts, it seems too perfectly timed to me but perhaps that's just a coincidence.
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May 15, 2014, 12:10:10 PM |
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I'm only perceived as a bear due to the contrast that appears between me and uberturbobulls like rpetelia.
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May 15, 2014, 12:14:16 PM |
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It's Thursday, is this just the Bitcoin Investment Trust on its weekly shopping spree?
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May 15, 2014, 12:20:44 PM |
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it is pumping time, till the end of the month there will be some epic pumps, and yes quote me on this ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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May 15, 2014, 12:22:12 PM |
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it is pumping time, till the end of the month there will be some epic pumps, and yes quote me on this ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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May 15, 2014, 12:24:33 PM |
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I noticed hitbtc.com swinging in average price from constantly below to constantly above the most otgher exchanges. Does anyone on here have ideas why this is happening? Who is buying there? (Speculations are welcome ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) )
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May 15, 2014, 12:33:31 PM |
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I remember when the candles used to be like this: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cornishcandles.co.uk%2Fekmps%2Fshops%2Fcornish89%2Fimages%2Fgiant-36-inch-3ft-tall-church-pillar-candle-%5B5%5D-1391-p.jpg&t=665&c=ihWurAyX96LL9Q) And now they're like this: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.industrialrev.com%2Fassets%2Fimages%2Fproducts%2Fa-can6pk.jpg&t=665&c=pMorFAy0EHpLcQ) ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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May 15, 2014, 12:36:34 PM |
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I remember when the candles used to be like this: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cornishcandles.co.uk%2Fekmps%2Fshops%2Fcornish89%2Fimages%2Fgiant-36-inch-3ft-tall-church-pillar-candle-%5B5%5D-1391-p.jpg&t=665&c=ihWurAyX96LL9Q) And now they're like this: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.industrialrev.com%2Fassets%2Fimages%2Fproducts%2Fa-can6pk.jpg&t=665&c=pMorFAy0EHpLcQ) ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Ha!
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