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July 03, 2014, 02:50:33 PM


The chatter on this video was very interesting to me, mostly for the subtext.  The anchor expressed skepticism about liquidity, but the correspondent brushed it aside.

They all understood that there would not be enough COIN to meet demand.  They all understood that it would rocket.  They all understood that it was forbidden to say this.  They all understood that they needed to buy bitcoin for their PA before COIN listed.

The best-effort estimate as to when it would list was on the 10th anniversary of GLD, in November.
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July 03, 2014, 02:51:05 PM

Is there an ETA on COIN?

they are talking 1-3 months

but it could be sooner, it's been in the works for a long time, no one knows when it will pass but its getting there.
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July 03, 2014, 02:51:57 PM

So... stock up ladies and gents.
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July 03, 2014, 02:52:41 PM

What happens if it starts trading AFTER moon in achieved? Shocked
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July 03, 2014, 02:52:54 PM

Didn't Tim Draper mention Brazil explicitly as a country where they expect to find buyers for those 30'000 BTC?
Did he say he plans to "sell them" to Brazillian buyers ?
I thought Draper said he was proposing to use the 30,000 BTC to mainly provide liquidity through arbitrage and keep his overall balance of BTC approx the same... and also to spend some to "encourage" further development of the ecosystem/further adoption in countries like Brazil?
Pretty sure he explicitly said that as opposed to - I want to sell these to Brazilians.
You're correct.
Sorry, I didn't watch the video, I just went by the comments in this thread. Not sure it makes much difference though...


Says an awful lot about the things you say, and why people have a hard time taking you seriously sometimes


Also - there is a lot of difference- unless we are supposed to take what you say and then assume the opposite.... you infer that Draper wanted to
sell/dupe/create bagholders of BTC with the 30,000 coins he has, to make a profit directly from selling the BTC to poor unsuspecting Brazilian folk...
when actually he is doing something totally different with the coins, as already explained.

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What happens if it starts trading AFTER moon in achieved? Shocked

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July 03, 2014, 02:56:21 PM

Is there an ETA on COIN?

they are talking 1-3 months

but it could be sooner, it's been in the works for a long time, no one knows when it will pass but its getting there.

I am going to buy bitcoins in approximately 3 weeks. I am waiting the fiat and i hope the price will wait for me.  Tongue
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Explanation
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July 03, 2014, 03:03:45 PM


I felt forewarned prior to the December bubble, I was confident we were going up, I don't think we are going up just yet at the moment. But then again I have a 1 out of 3 record, and some more lessons to learn.

I was sure we were underpriced but I was expecting that people had learned their lessons and we were post bubble and we'd get a steady, if wobbly, rise. Then it all got very exciting.
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July 03, 2014, 03:04:26 PM

I would expect to be in the 800's before COIN starts trading, after COIN we'll probably leave behind the triple digits and never look back.
I think you misspelled "quadruple".
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July 03, 2014, 03:10:13 PM

Is there an ETA on COIN?

they are talking 1-3 months

but it could be sooner, it's been in the works for a long time, no one knows when it will pass but its getting there.

I am going to buy bitcoins in approximately 3 weeks. I am waiting the fiat and i hope the price will wait for me.  Tongue

All i know is 800 is GUARANTEED to be hit next week.   Undecided

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Oh yes, like they squashed marijuana.  Nipped it in the bud, so to speak.

Anyhow, that ship has already sailed.  There is no effective way to prevent p2p use of encrypted transaction overlay networks with untraceable transactions.  
And why would they want to? Bitcoin is just another revenue stream for them. They'll just tax it.
Governments will want to squash crypto if they find that it really works at hiding taxable income, bypassing AML and KYC, paying for illegal goods and services, financing subversion/terrorism/corruption in their soil, evading currency controls, weakening their currency, etc.

The first step will be to declare it illegal to use.  Most people then will not use it -- they would rather pay taxes than risk going to jail, no matter how debatable the risk is.  To deal with the small remaining black-market use, governments will do their usual things -- set up honeypot e-stuff sites, mixers, and TOR nodes, block IPs, hack into computers of suspects, raid and close mining installations, use big data tools to detect payments, whatever.

Squashing a crypto currency will be easier than squashing marijuana in many ways.  Marijuana can be grown in secret in a basement and used by small groups of people, with no contact with other groups.  Whereas to use crypto one needs real-time access to a single global network.  Tracking sales of marijuana requires physically watching and tailing the distributors for weeks, one agent for each man.  Whereas a single technician can monitor all IPs in the country and all transactions in a crypto network, from an office anywhere in the world.  And so on.


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Also I have noticed that want does not always equal get

Plus there is no small group of people that use illegal drugs, there are very very many people, and the drug trade is not just the Ganja, it is a multi billlion dollar black market, run by people with huge budgets, the idea that it is held up by people that  "grow in secret in a basement" is frankly absurd... try fields and fields and acres and acres , warehouses of all sorts of crops, guarded by armed men at military checkpoints, and helicopters, boats, and the friends of the cartels (their good firends in various governments and banks) are well aware of this, and the produce is processed by factories and shipped globally via a huge network.. the guberment has not ever, ever,ever  done jack to even come close, to having an effect on the drug trade, not even by 5% they are powerless in this respect, and also have proved quite inadequate at "policing" the internet.
 
Also I think you fail to see the direction that the internet/p2p and encryption is going in and will continue to develop..  in respects to stopping Cryptos their solution is not going to be a single technician sat in an office somewhere...  if anything their only way will be at the fiat gateways... and frankly they had better get a jiggle on  in that respect, if that is what you belive they will want  (which I have my doubts about)

 At the moment they/we/Bitcoin are headed in the opposite direction... governments gap to stop this in its tracks is closing rapidly... it seems like they have no wish or the will to do so, actually it is looking more and more like the opposite in many countries, certainly here in the UK , the FSA has made very clear and explicit statements that they are looking to regulate, but let Bitcoin/cryptocurrency/blockchain tech flourish, ditto for parts of US NY/Cali, Isle of Man, Switzerland are making noises in that direction.. etc etc..

If Bitcoin gets to the point where the government suddenly think oh we had better try to squash this because it is too big, if it gets that big... and people, industry and banks all use and like BTC, then it will be too late and people will be like WTF?.  If Bitcoin gets to that level, and it is seen as good for society, and is considered money, and money is considered freedom of expression, and people support it, then they will have a real vote loser/potential revolution on their hands...  like I have said before the world is going to change so much in the next 20 years... I see that the governments of the world will work out (if they have not already) which side of this to be on, and will most likely leverage it themselves rather than squash it.

Not that that matters,  I remember similar ideas about the internet 20 odd years ago, and how x and y will never be allowed, and will never catch on, and here we are 25 years later and there are plans available for a 3d printed firearm available online,  and that is out there now, and the genie is not going back in the bottle ever... do you think that genie has been put back in the bottle? because it has not, and will never be regardless of how many techinicans sat in offices or politicians will it to...  nor will the cryptocurrency genie be put back in the bottle...... it is already too late...  by hook or by crook cryptos are here to stay, the question is, will it be a sensible gradual adoption, or will it be a prohibition style pointless and unwinnable long drawn out battle that they end up losing?

 
 


 
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July 03, 2014, 03:27:19 PM

so much bullish news. No crash after TSR coins auction.
I'm guessing we go to 800 USD in the next 10 days. We will stay there for a few days (not more than a week) and after that an attempt to break ATH. folowed by a small correction towards 1000 USD and after that... Lift off to da m00n !!!

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July 03, 2014, 03:27:44 PM

Is there an ETA on COIN?

they are talking 1-3 months

but it could be sooner, it's been in the works for a long time, no one knows when it will pass but its getting there.

I am going to buy bitcoins in approximately 3 weeks. I am waiting the fiat and i hope the price will wait for me.  Tongue

I'm in a similar boat - at least in regard to waiting for additional fiat; however, I have quite a bit of fiat "IN" already...


At this time, I am NOT too worried if the BTC rocket takes off without my additional fiat invested therein.
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Is there an ETA on COIN?

they are talking 1-3 months

but it could be sooner, it's been in the works for a long time, no one knows when it will pass but its getting there.

I am going to buy bitcoins in approximately 3 weeks. I am waiting the fiat and i hope the price will wait for me.  Tongue

All i know is 800 is GUARANTEED to be hit next week.   Undecided

 Cheesy

If it guaranteed by Adams!!!  I think i will buy a lot less than expected.  Undecided
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July 03, 2014, 03:37:43 PM

This thread is unreadable because of all the jorgeretard quotes. Stop giving that idiot so much attention ffs! He will go away as soon as people ignore him!
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July 03, 2014, 03:46:48 PM

This thread is unreadable because of all the jorgeretard quotes. Stop giving that idiot so much attention ffs! He will go away as soon as people ignore him!

But...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28145401

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I felt forewarned prior to the December bubble, I was confident we were going up, I don't think we are going up just yet at the moment. But then again I have a 1 out of 3 record, and some more lessons to learn.

I was sure we were underpriced but I was expecting that people had learned their lessons and we were post bubble and we'd get a steady, if wobbly, rise. Then it all got very exciting.
After the June 2011 bubble I thought it would never happy again, keep in mind it's the new comers who have the most lessons to learn, they drive this adoption model, the next wave of adopters are srude and used to winning at any cost.
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July 03, 2014, 04:02:08 PM

Is there an ETA on COIN?

they are talking 1-3 months

but it could be sooner, it's been in the works for a long time, no one knows when it will pass but its getting there.

I am going to buy bitcoins in approximately 3 weeks. I am waiting the fiat and i hope the price will wait for me.  Tongue

All i know is 800 is GUARANTEED to be hit next week.   Undecided

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Don't take this too seriously (but this is the speculation topic after all) but I too think that compared with the last growth phase we're around the flash crash when SR was raided. The graph looks really similar. This would mean it's t-5 in the lift off count down (as in the next two weeks).

Let's see what happens though. Past results don't guarantee future ones.

Someone needs to give some bad news for a flash crash to keep the graph authentic before we rocket Cheesy.
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