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A few minutes before the rally started nearly all the bids on Bitstamp down to 360 were removed within in a second. Also quite a lot of asks were removed, but far less than bids. I switched over to the trading PC and by then everything was back to normal. Did anyone else catch that? I wonder what that was all about, there were literally only a few dozen coins worth of bids down to 360, basically just a long flat green line (on bitcoinity.org). A bug maybe? But would be a weird coincidence because it happened right before that rally.
About the rally itself: I kinda feel that this was orchestrated by a single entity, probably in order to induce a short squeeze. I doubt very much that this was "organic" buying by people who suddenly all decided to buy in unison. Or maybe I'm wrong and it was caused by a bunch of people buying because of the paypal news, but I doubt it...
I followed the rally early on and decided @ about $415 that someone was trying to squeeze those 11000 shorts out. So I went "picking up pennies in front of the steamroller" - I bought into the askwalls, then set up my own askwalls at a slighty higher price. Worked out well, but I would have been in trouble if the price had reversed suddenly. Bids were very thin, so I wouldn't have been able to sell the coins back at the price I bought them at. Was probably not a good idea, even though I made some profit.
Similar to my own ideas: I don't think it was "organic" either, in the sense of buying pressure slowly building up, then being released. Looked like a single entity to me as well, only question is: why? Seems by buying gradually, you could minimize slippage, so assuming the original assumption (one entity driving this one) is right, I can see two reasons to buy it all at once, across exchanges: to "make a point" for the bulls, or to squeeze shorts. The latter didn't seem to work (so far), however, judging by the finex stats. I will tell you why. Now we will stay in this range for some time so the whales can distribute more coins to some bulls thinking we gonna go above 450$ and stay there (which would mean breaking downtrend that was going for months). This is very bad because price will still go down after all but we gonna have another level of resistance later on on the way up. F*ck you whales, could have dumped some more to retest previous lows first and then rebound with this news.
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new target 420. 420 is happening poeple, i will buy cheap coins! i will!
Adam, quit trolling the people here will ya? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fth04.deviantart.net%2Ffs70%2FPRE%2Ff%2F2011%2F288%2Fc%2F2%2Fokay_by_rober_raik-d4cw242.png&t=665&c=cn5110afS9tvRQ)
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Similar to my own ideas: I don't think it was "organic" either, in the sense of buying pressure slowly building up, then being released. Looked like a single entity to me as well, only question is: why? Seems by buying gradually, you could minimize slippage, so assuming the original assumption (one entity driving this one) is right, I can see two reasons to buy it all at once, across exchanges: to "make a point" for the bulls, or to squeeze shorts. The latter didn't seem to work (so far), however, judging by the finex stats.
My question for those that have watched the markets is, how do shorts react to this type of increase. Do they get fearful of putting in more shorts or do they just think what goes up must come down and increase their short interest? Hopefully it's the first.
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check the date and time on this... i nailed it ... please tip 198i7zCipYATtCB13V9HSv8EnuDCN2oYXE I was closer, check date and time. Please give bigger tip(and yours as well). 1K9vcx2wAiS6gDeNZcjKfqJtZ7anYJWZe5 Can somebody quote me on calling the bottom? I would like to say "told you" in the future.
Today I had a new insight which confirms my previous prediction about the next bubble start (which you can read at the left)
The biggest tip you would have ever gotten was if you bought at the bottom that you "called".
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September 23, 2014, 08:14:12 PM |
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About the rally itself: I kinda feel that this was orchestrated by a single entity, probably in order to induce a short squeeze. I doubt very much that this was "organic" buying by people who suddenly all decided to buy in unison. Or maybe I'm wrong and it was caused by a bunch of people buying because of the paypal news, but I doubt it...
The rally that started May 20 too consisted of a few episodes of intense buying, 1-2 hour long, that drove the price up by ~50$ each time; separated by "organic-looking" periods where the price just wandered about, often with a downward trend. Could this rally be the first of another (mini-)bubble like that?
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September 23, 2014, 08:16:38 PM |
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A few minutes before the rally started nearly all the bids on Bitstamp down to 360 were removed within in a second. Also quite a lot of asks were removed, but far less than bids. I switched over to the trading PC and by then everything was back to normal. Did anyone else catch that? I wonder what that was all about, there were literally only a few dozen coins worth of bids down to 360, basically just a long flat green line (on bitcoinity.org). A bug maybe? But would be a weird coincidence because it happened right before that rally.
About the rally itself: I kinda feel that this was orchestrated by a single entity, probably in order to induce a short squeeze. I doubt very much that this was "organic" buying by people who suddenly all decided to buy in unison. Or maybe I'm wrong and it was caused by a bunch of people buying because of the paypal news, but I doubt it...
I followed the rally early on and decided @ about $415 that someone was trying to squeeze those 11000 shorts out. So I went "picking up pennies in front of the steamroller" - I bought into the askwalls, then set up my own askwalls at a slighty higher price. Worked out well, but I would have been in trouble if the price had reversed suddenly. Bids were very thin, so I wouldn't have been able to sell the coins back at the price I bought them at. Was probably not a good idea, even though I made some profit.
Similar to my own ideas: I don't think it was "organic" either, in the sense of buying pressure slowly building up, then being released. Looked like a single entity to me as well, only question is: why? Seems by buying gradually, you could minimize slippage, so assuming the original assumption (one entity driving this one) is right, I can see two reasons to buy it all at once, across exchanges: to "make a point" for the bulls, or to squeeze shorts. The latter didn't seem to work (so far), however, judging by the finex stats. Gentlemen, as long as *THIS ONE ENTITY* has the dough to move the markets, there you have it. I don't see a point to find out the reason. Maybe he has no reason at all. Maybe he thinks, at this moment, this move is a great investment, or maybe he just thought that the Paypal news will turn the things around. There have been a hell of a lot of reasons that BTC should go up all these months, but guess what... it didn't. Why don't you ask yourselves why was so in the first place? We're floating in a pond that's full of whales. If one of them decides to make a move, many of us will feel like it's the mother of all storms coming over and over again. So here's your whale, he made his move. Waves coming. Let's all deal with it.
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September 23, 2014, 08:19:09 PM |
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About the rally itself: I kinda feel that this was orchestrated by a single entity, probably in order to induce a short squeeze. I doubt very much that this was "organic" buying by people who suddenly all decided to buy in unison. Or maybe I'm wrong and it was caused by a bunch of people buying because of the paypal news, but I doubt it...
The rally that started May 20 too consisted of a few episodes of intense buying, 1-2 hour long, that drove the price up by ~50$ each time; separated by "organic-looking" periods where the price just wandered about, often with a downward trend. Could this rally be the first of another (mini-)bubble like that? As i said many times in the past (since 2011 bubble), we will have at least 5 bubbles during the price discovery process. So far we had only 3 bubbles, so we got a few more bubbles. During this process, the bitcoin network adoption/development will grow tens folds. Notice all the idiotic bears in this forum are all registered after the last bubble? 2013 earliest?
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September 23, 2014, 08:22:38 PM |
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More like Understater of the Year. In 3 years time, I think you could potentially add an extra zero to his price projection
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September 23, 2014, 08:24:23 PM |
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I am sure you know how to make money better than him...
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September 23, 2014, 08:24:35 PM |
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About the rally itself: I kinda feel that this was orchestrated by a single entity, probably in order to induce a short squeeze. I doubt very much that this was "organic" buying by people who suddenly all decided to buy in unison. Or maybe I'm wrong and it was caused by a bunch of people buying because of the paypal news, but I doubt it...
The rally that started May 20 too consisted of a few episodes of intense buying, 1-2 hour long, that drove the price up by ~50$ each time; separated by "organic-looking" periods where the price just wandered about, often with a downward trend. Could this rally be the first of another (mini-)bubble like that? As i said many times in the past (since 2011 bubble), we will have at least 5 bubbles during the price discovery process. So far we had only 3 bubbles, so we got a few more bubbles. During this process, the bitcoin network adoption/development will grow tens folds. Notice all the idiotic bears in this forum are all registered after the last bubble? 2013 earliest? I'd say we have at least 3 more arc cycles before optimal price discovery. Possibly 4. Of course, if one ore two of those arc cycles go more parabolic than usual than who knows
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September 23, 2014, 08:24:41 PM |
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A few minutes before the rally started nearly all the bids on Bitstamp down to 360 were removed within in a second. Also quite a lot of asks were removed, but far less than bids. I switched over to the trading PC and by then everything was back to normal. Did anyone else catch that? I wonder what that was all about, there were literally only a few dozen coins worth of bids down to 360, basically just a long flat green line (on bitcoinity.org). A bug maybe? But would be a weird coincidence because it happened right before that rally.
About the rally itself: I kinda feel that this was orchestrated by a single entity, probably in order to induce a short squeeze. I doubt very much that this was "organic" buying by people who suddenly all decided to buy in unison. Or maybe I'm wrong and it was caused by a bunch of people buying because of the paypal news, but I doubt it...
I followed the rally early on and decided @ about $415 that someone was trying to squeeze those 11000 shorts out. So I went "picking up pennies in front of the steamroller" - I bought into the askwalls, then set up my own askwalls at a slighty higher price. Worked out well, but I would have been in trouble if the price had reversed suddenly. Bids were very thin, so I wouldn't have been able to sell the coins back at the price I bought them at. Was probably not a good idea, even though I made some profit.
Similar to my own ideas: I don't think it was "organic" either, in the sense of buying pressure slowly building up, then being released. Looked like a single entity to me as well, only question is: why? Seems by buying gradually, you could minimize slippage, so assuming the original assumption (one entity driving this one) is right, I can see two reasons to buy it all at once, across exchanges: to "make a point" for the bulls, or to squeeze shorts. The latter didn't seem to work (so far), however, judging by the finex stats. Gentlemen, as long as *THIS ONE ENTITY* has the dough to move the markets, there you have it. I don't see a point to find out the reason. Maybe he has no reason at all. Maybe he thinks, at this moment, this move is a great investment, or maybe he just thought that the Paypal news will turn the things around. There have been a hell of a lot of reasons that BTC should go up all these months, but guess what... it didn't. Why don't you ask yourselves why was so in the first place? We're floating in a pond that's full of whales. If one of them decides to make a move, many of us will feel like it's the mother of all storms coming over and over again. So here's your whale, he made his move. Waves coming. Let's all deal with it. Yes, but one whale will run out of funds soon. We need TONS of whales all working in tandem. Momentum can't just peak out, it has to keep going for weeks with heavy volume to fool (er, convince) the public.
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September 23, 2014, 08:24:47 PM |
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More like Understater of the Year. In 3 years time, I think you could potentially add an extra zero to his price projection Is this confirmed?
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September 23, 2014, 08:25:55 PM |
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A few minutes before the rally started nearly all the bids on Bitstamp down to 360 were removed within in a second. Also quite a lot of asks were removed, but far less than bids. I switched over to the trading PC and by then everything was back to normal. Did anyone else catch that? I wonder what that was all about, there were literally only a few dozen coins worth of bids down to 360, basically just a long flat green line (on bitcoinity.org). A bug maybe? But would be a weird coincidence because it happened right before that rally.
About the rally itself: I kinda feel that this was orchestrated by a single entity, probably in order to induce a short squeeze. I doubt very much that this was "organic" buying by people who suddenly all decided to buy in unison. Or maybe I'm wrong and it was caused by a bunch of people buying because of the paypal news, but I doubt it...
I followed the rally early on and decided @ about $415 that someone was trying to squeeze those 11000 shorts out. So I went "picking up pennies in front of the steamroller" - I bought into the askwalls, then set up my own askwalls at a slighty higher price. Worked out well, but I would have been in trouble if the price had reversed suddenly. Bids were very thin, so I wouldn't have been able to sell the coins back at the price I bought them at. Was probably not a good idea, even though I made some profit.
Similar to my own ideas: I don't think it was "organic" either, in the sense of buying pressure slowly building up, then being released. Looked like a single entity to me as well, only question is: why? Seems by buying gradually, you could minimize slippage, so assuming the original assumption (one entity driving this one) is right, I can see two reasons to buy it all at once, across exchanges: to "make a point" for the bulls, or to squeeze shorts. The latter didn't seem to work (so far), however, judging by the finex stats. This was clearly a bug at bitcoinity, happens a lot. Their bids/asks live chart for stamp is so unreal and not realiable to monitor lively and track changes. You need to use stamp order book chart to help with it to see how things really stands. I'm not talking about bitcoinity, or any order book particulars. I simply agreed with colour that the action of the last hour looks more like a single massive buying entity ("whale") to me than organic release of built up buying pressure.
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September 23, 2014, 08:28:11 PM |
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A few minutes before the rally started nearly all the bids on Bitstamp down to 360 were removed within in a second. Also quite a lot of asks were removed, but far less than bids. I switched over to the trading PC and by then everything was back to normal. Did anyone else catch that? I wonder what that was all about, there were literally only a few dozen coins worth of bids down to 360, basically just a long flat green line (on bitcoinity.org). A bug maybe? But would be a weird coincidence because it happened right before that rally.
About the rally itself: I kinda feel that this was orchestrated by a single entity, probably in order to induce a short squeeze. I doubt very much that this was "organic" buying by people who suddenly all decided to buy in unison. Or maybe I'm wrong and it was caused by a bunch of people buying because of the paypal news, but I doubt it...
I followed the rally early on and decided @ about $415 that someone was trying to squeeze those 11000 shorts out. So I went "picking up pennies in front of the steamroller" - I bought into the askwalls, then set up my own askwalls at a slighty higher price. Worked out well, but I would have been in trouble if the price had reversed suddenly. Bids were very thin, so I wouldn't have been able to sell the coins back at the price I bought them at. Was probably not a good idea, even though I made some profit.
Similar to my own ideas: I don't think it was "organic" either, in the sense of buying pressure slowly building up, then being released. Looked like a single entity to me as well, only question is: why? Seems by buying gradually, you could minimize slippage, so assuming the original assumption (one entity driving this one) is right, I can see two reasons to buy it all at once, across exchanges: to "make a point" for the bulls, or to squeeze shorts. The latter didn't seem to work (so far), however, judging by the finex stats. This was clearly a bug at bitcoinity, happens a lot. Their bids/asks live chart for stamp is so unreal and not realiable to monitor lively and track changes. You need to use stamp order book chart to help with it to see how things really stands. I'm not talking about bitcoinity, or any order book particulars. I simply agreed with colour that the action of the last hour looks more like a single massive buying entity ("whale") to me than organic release of built up buying pressure. stop loss hunt? who cares!? virtex is up.
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September 23, 2014, 08:28:44 PM |
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Is this confirmed?
Yes, I can confirm this.
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September 23, 2014, 08:29:48 PM |
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A few minutes before the rally started nearly all the bids on Bitstamp down to 360 were removed within in a second. Also quite a lot of asks were removed, but far less than bids. I switched over to the trading PC and by then everything was back to normal. Did anyone else catch that? I wonder what that was all about, there were literally only a few dozen coins worth of bids down to 360, basically just a long flat green line (on bitcoinity.org). A bug maybe? But would be a weird coincidence because it happened right before that rally.
About the rally itself: I kinda feel that this was orchestrated by a single entity, probably in order to induce a short squeeze. I doubt very much that this was "organic" buying by people who suddenly all decided to buy in unison. Or maybe I'm wrong and it was caused by a bunch of people buying because of the paypal news, but I doubt it...
I followed the rally early on and decided @ about $415 that someone was trying to squeeze those 11000 shorts out. So I went "picking up pennies in front of the steamroller" - I bought into the askwalls, then set up my own askwalls at a slighty higher price. Worked out well, but I would have been in trouble if the price had reversed suddenly. Bids were very thin, so I wouldn't have been able to sell the coins back at the price I bought them at. Was probably not a good idea, even though I made some profit.
Similar to my own ideas: I don't think it was "organic" either, in the sense of buying pressure slowly building up, then being released. Looked like a single entity to me as well, only question is: why? Seems by buying gradually, you could minimize slippage, so assuming the original assumption (one entity driving this one) is right, I can see two reasons to buy it all at once, across exchanges: to "make a point" for the bulls, or to squeeze shorts. The latter didn't seem to work (so far), however, judging by the finex stats. This was clearly a bug at bitcoinity, happens a lot. Their bids/asks live chart for stamp is so unreal and not realiable to monitor lively and track changes. You need to use stamp order book chart to help with it to see how things really stands. I'm not talking about bitcoinity, or any order book particulars. I simply agreed with colour that the action of the last hour looks more like a single massive buying entity ("whale") to me than organic release of built up buying pressure. stop loss hunt? who cares!? virtex is up. agreed. most likely, imo. that, or loaded made good on his implied promise ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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September 23, 2014, 08:29:57 PM |
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A few minutes before the rally started nearly all the bids on Bitstamp down to 360 were removed within in a second. Also quite a lot of asks were removed, but far less than bids. I switched over to the trading PC and by then everything was back to normal. Did anyone else catch that? I wonder what that was all about, there were literally only a few dozen coins worth of bids down to 360, basically just a long flat green line (on bitcoinity.org). A bug maybe? But would be a weird coincidence because it happened right before that rally.
About the rally itself: I kinda feel that this was orchestrated by a single entity, probably in order to induce a short squeeze. I doubt very much that this was "organic" buying by people who suddenly all decided to buy in unison. Or maybe I'm wrong and it was caused by a bunch of people buying because of the paypal news, but I doubt it...
I followed the rally early on and decided @ about $415 that someone was trying to squeeze those 11000 shorts out. So I went "picking up pennies in front of the steamroller" - I bought into the askwalls, then set up my own askwalls at a slighty higher price. Worked out well, but I would have been in trouble if the price had reversed suddenly. Bids were very thin, so I wouldn't have been able to sell the coins back at the price I bought them at. Was probably not a good idea, even though I made some profit.
Similar to my own ideas: I don't think it was "organic" either, in the sense of buying pressure slowly building up, then being released. Looked like a single entity to me as well, only question is: why? Seems by buying gradually, you could minimize slippage, so assuming the original assumption (one entity driving this one) is right, I can see two reasons to buy it all at once, across exchanges: to "make a point" for the bulls, or to squeeze shorts. The latter didn't seem to work (so far), however, judging by the finex stats. This was clearly a bug at bitcoinity, happens a lot. Their bids/asks live chart for stamp is so unreal and not realiable to monitor lively and track changes. You need to use stamp order book chart to help with it to see how things really stands. I'm not talking about bitcoinity, or any order book particulars. I simply agreed with colour that the action of the last hour looks more like a single massive buying entity ("whale") to me than organic release of built up buying pressure. Sorry, I was commenting colours first paragraph (didn't have time to search for his post ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) ). For the other part, this was all natural and bought by many users, was seen very clearly - then we just started following china till they broke the top. No single entity, you don't need one, just maybe starting push - 800btc on stamp.
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based on the amount of memberships looks like bitcoin rally might be for real
track bitcoin price by new members to the forum is it possible
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track bitcoin price by new members to the forum is it possible
Month New Members Sep-14 8036 Aug-14 11443 Jul-14 11119 Jun-14 11952 May-14 14264 Apr-14 17948 Mar-14 45800 Feb-14 25448 Jan-14 26625 Dec-13 31775 Nov-13 19683 Oct-13 2927 Sep-13 5156 Aug-13 6052 Jul-13 7413 Jun-13 9373 May-13 15512 Apr-13 18712 Mar-13 7358 Feb-13 3532 Jan-13 3184 Dec-12 2766 Nov-12 2708 Oct-12 3200 Sep-12 2345 Aug-12 2395 Jul-12 2109 Jun-12 2080 May-12 2018 Apr-12 2072 Mar-12 2118 Feb-12 1991 Jan-12 2051 Dec-11 1725 Nov-11 1993 Oct-11 2078 Sep-11 2452 Aug-11 3866 Jul-11 5466 Jun-11 14483 May-11 5959 Apr-11 2924 Mar-11 2538 Feb-11 1379 Jan-11 837 Dec-10 680 Nov-10 374 Oct-10 315 Sep-10 587 Aug-10 515 Jul-10 370 Jun-10 55 May-10 65 Apr-10 73 Mar-10 40 Feb-10 25 Jan-10 9 Dec-09 15 Nov-09 4
DAT stats !!!! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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