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Question: When will BTC get back above $70K:
7/14 - 0 (0%)
7/21 - 1 (0.8%)
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8/11 - 8 (6.5%)
8/18 - 6 (4.8%)
8/25 - 8 (6.5%)
After August - 74 (59.7%)
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December 04, 2014, 10:04:05 PM

One bid could take them all...

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Bidders must register to participate in a designated Series. Bidders may register to participate in more than one Series, but must provide the required deposit for each Series (i.e. the deposit requirement aggregates depending on the number of Series selected).

As with the last auction, one registration allows you to bid on multiple blocks for the same price, but does not allow you submit multiple bids at varying prices. If you wish to have the ability to bid multiple prices on multiple blocks within the same Series, you will need to submit another registration form and additional deposit. The following examples are provided for your convenience:

Example 1: A bid to purchase three (3) blocks of Series A for the same per bitcoin price (e.g. $X per bitcoin for 6,000 Series A bitcoins) requires ONE registration form for Series A with a $100,000 deposit. Use ONE Bid Form to bid for ALL THREE Series A blocks.

Example 2: A bid to purchase three (3) blocks of Series A for the same per bitcoin price (e.g. $X per bitcoin for 6,000 Series A bitcoins), and two (2) blocks of Series B for the same per bitcoin price (e.g. $Y per bitcoin for 6,000 Series B bitcoins) requires ONE registration form for BOTH Series A and B with a $250,000 deposit ($100,000 for Series A plus $150,000 for Series B). Use ONE Bid Form to bid for Series A AND Series B blocks. Note that the per-bitcoin price for Series A does not need to match the Series B per-bitcoin price.

Example 3: Three (3) separate bids to purchase blocks of Series A at different prices (e.g. $X per bitcoin for 2,000 bitcoins, $Y per bitcoin for 2,000 bitcoins, and $Z per bitcoin for 2,000 bitcoins) requires THREE separate registration forms (EACH selecting Series A), and a $300,000 deposit ($100,000 for EACH registration). Use THREE Bid Forms, ONE FOR EACH Series A block. Note that each registration also permits a bidder to register for other Series (requiring additional deposits).
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December 04, 2014, 10:04:12 PM

So many people completely undone by grief in this thread.

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December 04, 2014, 10:04:40 PM

Why do people believe that bids were around USD 400 ? these are blocks of 2 and 3 k. if I were to buy one block I would rather look for a discounted bid of at least 5 percent, otherwise i could buy them on exchange. in addition if i knew that there are only 11 bidders, which implies a low demand i would add another 5 percent...

i guess i should have worded the poll "I believe wish the FBI 50K coins sold at an avg. price of:"

😉 going through all the hasle to confirm id, transfer 150 k usd in advance and have a weekend in between before settlement on a fixed price ? for a premuim on current exchange prices ? never ever...
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December 04, 2014, 10:05:14 PM

in other news...



Bitcoin camwhore?
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December 04, 2014, 10:05:45 PM

http://www.coindesk.com/us-marshals-bidder-turnout-second-bitcoin-auction-declines-sharply/

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Overall, the number of registered bidders decreased 75% from the first auction, while the number of bids fell 57%.

 Huh

Anyone really believe these are going above market price ??
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classy bitcoin escort?
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December 04, 2014, 10:08:07 PM

One bid could take them all...

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Bidders must register to participate in a designated Series. Bidders may register to participate in more than one Series, but must provide the required deposit for each Series (i.e. the deposit requirement aggregates depending on the number of Series selected).

As with the last auction, one registration allows you to bid on multiple blocks for the same price, but does not allow you submit multiple bids at varying prices. If you wish to have the ability to bid multiple prices on multiple blocks within the same Series, you will need to submit another registration form and additional deposit. The following examples are provided for your convenience:

Example 1: A bid to purchase three (3) blocks of Series A for the same per bitcoin price (e.g. $X per bitcoin for 6,000 Series A bitcoins) requires ONE registration form for Series A with a $100,000 deposit. Use ONE Bid Form to bid for ALL THREE Series A blocks.

Example 2: A bid to purchase three (3) blocks of Series A for the same per bitcoin price (e.g. $X per bitcoin for 6,000 Series A bitcoins), and two (2) blocks of Series B for the same per bitcoin price (e.g. $Y per bitcoin for 6,000 Series B bitcoins) requires ONE registration form for BOTH Series A and B with a $250,000 deposit ($100,000 for Series A plus $150,000 for Series B). Use ONE Bid Form to bid for Series A AND Series B blocks. Note that the per-bitcoin price for Series A does not need to match the Series B per-bitcoin price.

Example 3: Three (3) separate bids to purchase blocks of Series A at different prices (e.g. $X per bitcoin for 2,000 bitcoins, $Y per bitcoin for 2,000 bitcoins, and $Z per bitcoin for 2,000 bitcoins) requires THREE separate registration forms (EACH selecting Series A), and a $300,000 deposit ($100,000 for EACH registration). Use THREE Bid Forms, ONE FOR EACH Series A block. Note that each registration also permits a bidder to register for other Series (requiring additional deposits).

thanks for this

so 27bids doesn't look so bearish after all  Cool
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December 04, 2014, 10:09:16 PM


Bro, that's some trailer trash notions of "classy."
Where I'm from, not wearing a t-shirt asking for money is a prerequisite for class Cheesy
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December 04, 2014, 10:09:35 PM

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I hope she has a QR code. 

Isn't that you?
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December 04, 2014, 10:09:55 PM

Why do people believe that bids were around USD 400 ? these are blocks of 2 and 3 k. if I were to buy one block I would rather look for a discounted bid of at least 5 percent, otherwise i could buy them on exchange. in addition if i knew that there are only 11 bidders, which implies a low demand i would add another 5 percent...

i guess i should have worded the poll "I believe wish the FBI 50K coins sold at an avg. price of:"

😉 going through all the hasle to confirm id, transfer 150 k usd in advance and have a weekend in between before settlement on a fixed price ? for a premuim on current exchange prices ? never ever...
you do realize that buying 50K bitcoin on stamps could (in theory and under very specific conditions) puch price well over infinity  
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December 04, 2014, 10:10:27 PM

http://www.coindesk.com/us-marshals-bidder-turnout-second-bitcoin-auction-declines-sharply/

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Overall, the number of registered bidders decreased 75% from the first auction, while the number of bids fell 57%.

 Huh

Anyone really believe these are going above market price ??

depends where this 27 bid info came from, the article is vague, suggesting the reporter didn't even know the lot was spit into smaller lots.

https://twitter.com/mcbridesg  someone tweet her an ask what she meant in the article.  27 total. or 27 with mixed lot bids?
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December 04, 2014, 10:12:00 PM

yeah, I should a sold more.  The rocket is now digging. Maybe it's a drill.
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December 04, 2014, 10:12:15 PM

63 bids last time... 27 bids this time. Bearish. Very Bearish. But, in a speculative way. We really don't know much but you trade the rumor. Super bearish. And yes, I have a short. And no, I don't care about talking my book because the guys who really move the market aren't trolling around Bitcointalk's speculation forum.
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December 04, 2014, 10:14:46 PM

One bid could take them all...

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Bidders must register to participate in a designated Series. Bidders may register to participate in more than one Series, but must provide the required deposit for each Series (i.e. the deposit requirement aggregates depending on the number of Series selected).

As with the last auction, one registration allows you to bid on multiple blocks for the same price, but does not allow you submit multiple bids at varying prices. If you wish to have the ability to bid multiple prices on multiple blocks within the same Series, you will need to submit another registration form and additional deposit. The following examples are provided for your convenience:

Example 1: A bid to purchase three (3) blocks of Series A for the same per bitcoin price (e.g. $X per bitcoin for 6,000 Series A bitcoins) requires ONE registration form for Series A with a $100,000 deposit. Use ONE Bid Form to bid for ALL THREE Series A blocks.

Example 2: A bid to purchase three (3) blocks of Series A for the same per bitcoin price (e.g. $X per bitcoin for 6,000 Series A bitcoins), and two (2) blocks of Series B for the same per bitcoin price (e.g. $Y per bitcoin for 6,000 Series B bitcoins) requires ONE registration form for BOTH Series A and B with a $250,000 deposit ($100,000 for Series A plus $150,000 for Series B). Use ONE Bid Form to bid for Series A AND Series B blocks. Note that the per-bitcoin price for Series A does not need to match the Series B per-bitcoin price.

Example 3: Three (3) separate bids to purchase blocks of Series A at different prices (e.g. $X per bitcoin for 2,000 bitcoins, $Y per bitcoin for 2,000 bitcoins, and $Z per bitcoin for 2,000 bitcoins) requires THREE separate registration forms (EACH selecting Series A), and a $300,000 deposit ($100,000 for EACH registration). Use THREE Bid Forms, ONE FOR EACH Series A block. Note that each registration also permits a bidder to register for other Series (requiring additional deposits).

thanks for this

so 27bids doesn't look so bearish after all  Cool


Seems fairly bullish, actually.


The logical thing for any registered bidder would be to decide his/her its bid price and then bid for as many lots as s/he it can afford to buy at that decided bid price, if s/he it were the winning bidder.




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December 04, 2014, 10:15:13 PM

Why do people believe that bids were around USD 400 ? these are blocks of 2 and 3 k. if I were to buy one block I would rather look for a discounted bid of at least 5 percent, otherwise i could buy them on exchange. in addition if i knew that there are only 11 bidders, which implies a low demand i would add another 5 percent...

i guess i should have worded the poll "I believe wish the FBI 50K coins sold at an avg. price of:"

😉 going through all the hasle to confirm id, transfer 150 k usd in advance and have a weekend in between before settlement on a fixed price ? for a premuim on current exchange prices ? never ever...
you do realize that buying 50K bitcoin on stamps could (in theory and under very specific conditions) puch price well over infinity  
I very much agree... but thats why I would participate in the auction to get them at a steep discount. otherwise i would not be interested.
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December 04, 2014, 10:15:59 PM

sentiment is low, volume is low, volatility is low, number of bids is low.

EVERYTHING IS LOW!
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December 04, 2014, 10:16:34 PM

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you do realize that buying 50K bitcoin on stamps could (in theory and under very specific conditions) puch price well over infinity  

If you do it really wrong, yeah.  You can also accidentally send the coin you bought to the wrong addy.
Are we trying to come up with "how can I lose money like an idiot" scenarios?
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December 04, 2014, 10:18:50 PM

I decided to buy a pretty decent chunk of coins (approximately 26 BTC).
Therefore, my average price per BTC in my own BTC holdings came down from approximately $558 to $537.  

So you have like ~225 bitcoins now. Especially in your case, that is at least putting your money where your mouth is  Cool

Lets see what Monday brings us, after some shaky hands dumping during Fri-Mon.
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December 04, 2014, 10:19:48 PM

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Bidders must register to participate in a designated Series. Bidders may register to participate in more than one Series, but must provide the required deposit for each Series (i.e. the deposit requirement aggregates depending on the number of Series selected).

As with the last auction, one registration allows you to bid on multiple blocks for the same price, but does not allow you submit multiple bids at varying prices. If you wish to have the ability to bid multiple prices on multiple blocks within the same Series, you will need to submit another registration form and additional deposit. The following examples are provided for your convenience:

Example 1: A bid to purchase three (3) blocks of Series A for the same per bitcoin price (e.g. $X per bitcoin for 6,000 Series A bitcoins) requires ONE registration form for Series A with a $100,000 deposit. Use ONE Bid Form to bid for ALL THREE Series A blocks.

Example 2: A bid to purchase three (3) blocks of Series A for the same per bitcoin price (e.g. $X per bitcoin for 6,000 Series A bitcoins), and two (2) blocks of Series B for the same per bitcoin price (e.g. $Y per bitcoin for 6,000 Series B bitcoins) requires ONE registration form for BOTH Series A and B with a $250,000 deposit ($100,000 for Series A plus $150,000 for Series B). Use ONE Bid Form to bid for Series A AND Series B blocks. Note that the per-bitcoin price for Series A does not need to match the Series B per-bitcoin price.

Example 3: Three (3) separate bids to purchase blocks of Series A at different prices (e.g. $X per bitcoin for 2,000 bitcoins, $Y per bitcoin for 2,000 bitcoins, and $Z per bitcoin for 2,000 bitcoins) requires THREE separate registration forms (EACH selecting Series A), and a $300,000 deposit ($100,000 for EACH registration). Use THREE Bid Forms, ONE FOR EACH Series A block. Note that each registration also permits a bidder to register for other Series (requiring additional deposits).

thanks for this

so 27bids doesn't look so bearish after all  Cool

This...

And you don't go through all that AML and KYC fbi shit if you're not planning to buy big  Wink

I had actually thought we might get a spike after the auction, but not on this news. I think people are purely delusional if they think this is anything but bearish. Could it have been more bearish... well, sure. But, not good news, guys.
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December 04, 2014, 10:20:25 PM

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you do realize that buying 50K bitcoin on stamps could (in theory and under very specific conditions) puch price well over infinity  

If you do it really wrong, yeah.  You can also accidentally send the coin you bought to the wrong addy.
Are we trying to come up with "how can I lose money like an idiot" scenarios?

ah but if you buy the 20K BTC available on the market today and then immediately send the price to infinity you've just made some very nice paper profits  Cheesy

in bitcoin land this is known as rocket-science
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