[1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool

[stevegee58]

I can check bitcoind while it is running with p2pool right?  bitcoind getinfo?

I don't know what to make of all the messages in the run_p2pool.exe window.   

The commands "bitcoind getbalance" and "bitcoind listtransactions" are your friends.

You're going through just what I did a few days ago.  You'll find much more day to day variability in what you collect as compared to say deepbit.

[DeathAndTaxes]

With a hashrate of around: [423.123 MH/s <~378 MH/s>] how often should I expect to see
an increase in my balance, and by approx. how much?  I am trying to gauge how well it
is doing compared with the last pool I was at.

How often you get paid has nothing to do with YOUR hashrate.  You (and everyone else) gets paid when a block is solved and that is based on p2pool global hashrate & Bitcoin difficulty.  Right now p2pool has avg block time of ~5 hours but due to variance it could be 20% of that or 500% of that per block (or more).

I can check bitcoind while it is running with p2pool right?  bitcoind getinfo?

I don't know what to make of all the messages in the run_p2pool.exe window.  

[Portnoy]

With a hashrate of around: [423.123 MH/s <~378 MH/s>] how often should I expect to see
an increase in my balance, and by approx. how much?  I am trying to gauge how well it
is doing compared with the last pool I was at.

How often you get paid has nothing to do with YOUR hashrate.  You (and everyone else) gets paid when a block is solved and that is based on p2pool global hashrate & Bitcoin difficulty.  Right now p2pool has avg block time of ~5 hours but due to variance it could be 20% of that or 500% of that per block (or more).

I see, thanks.  Right now it is that > 9% rejection rate that will make me want to go back to the previous pool I was at.
That and the merged mining I could do there.

[randomguy7]

With a hashrate of around: [423.123 MH/s <~378 MH/s>] how often should I expect to see
an increase in my balance, and by approx. how much?  I am trying to gauge how well it
is doing compared with the last pool I was at.

How often you get paid has nothing to do with YOUR hashrate.  You (and everyone else) gets paid when a block is solved and that is based on p2pool global hashrate & Bitcoin difficulty.  Right now p2pool has avg block time of ~5 hours but due to variance it could be 20% of that or 500% of that per block (or more).

I see, thanks.  Right now it is that > 9% rejection rate that will make me want to go back to the previous pool I was at.
That and the merged mining I could do there.

You can do merged mining with p2pool but you'll have an higher variance because you're basically solo mining.

[forrestv]

With a hashrate of around: [423.123 MH/s <~378 MH/s>] how often should I expect to see
an increase in my balance, and by approx. how much?  I am trying to gauge how well it
is doing compared with the last pool I was at.

How often you get paid has nothing to do with YOUR hashrate.  You (and everyone else) gets paid when a block is solved and that is based on p2pool global hashrate & Bitcoin difficulty.  Right now p2pool has avg block time of ~5 hours but due to variance it could be 20% of that or 500% of that per block (or more).

I see, thanks.  Right now it is that > 9% rejection rate that will make me want to go back to the previous pool I was at.
That and the merged mining I could do there.

What rejection rate are you talking about? P2Pool's rejections are different from pools. Getting some, about 9%, is normal, and doesn't hurt your payout.

[Portnoy]

What rejection rate are you talking about?

The one displayed in my miners (poclbm) window: [Rej: 91/1050 <8.67%>]
with the pool I was using before it was less than 1%. 

P2Pool's rejections are different from pools. Getting some, about 9%, is normal, and doesn't hurt your payout.

Rej: 9% using p2pool will give me as much as, or more, payout than Rej: 0.3% at that other pool? 
I don't understand how that could be... but I suppose I will just have to let it run a while and see
the actual payout and compare that to what I was getting from the others pools I have tried.   

[forrestv]

What rejection rate are you talking about?

The one displayed in my miners (poclbm) window: [Rej: 91/1050 <8.67%>]
with the pool I was using before it was less than 1%. 

P2Pool's rejections are different from pools. Getting some, about 9%, is normal, and doesn't hurt your payout.

Rej: 9% using p2pool will give me as much as, or more, payout than Rej: 0.3% at that other pool? 
I don't understand how that could be... but I suppose I will just have to let it run a while and see
the actual payout and compare that to what I was getting from the others pools I have tried.   

If your miner is rejecting many shares at all, you're probably using an incompatible miner. Look at https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/P2Pool#Miners . Is your FPS really low? You should have it at about 30.

[kano]

What rejection rate are you talking about?

The one displayed in my miners (poclbm) window: [Rej: 91/1050 <8.67%>]
with the pool I was using before it was less than 1%. 

P2Pool's rejections are different from pools. Getting some, about 9%, is normal, and doesn't hurt your payout.

Rej: 9% using p2pool will give me as much as, or more, payout than Rej: 0.3% at that other pool? 
I don't understand how that could be... but I suppose I will just have to let it run a while and see
the actual payout and compare that to what I was getting from the others pools I have tried.   

Hmm - interesting ....
So would that mean that if you could get the rejection rate down to 0% you'd get paid 9.89% more than you'd expect to get?
(Since I'd guess everyone else gets 9% rejection ...)

Hmm thinking more - yes it does mean is that if you are getting below the average rejection rate you are getting more than your expected payout.

The catch of course it to know what the average rejection rate actually is.

... and there are ways to reduce your rejection rate ...

[Portnoy]

If your miner is rejecting many shares at all, you're probably using an incompatible miner. Look at https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/P2Pool#Miners . Is your FPS really low? You should have it at about 30.

I don't know what FPS means in this context; how to check it or change it with this miner.

I run MSI Afterburner to overclock my 5870 card: 990 core clock; 300 memory clock; no change to the default voltage.

I use poclbm_py2exe_20120205, with these flags: -d0 -v -w128 -f1
( not sure what any of those flags do... got it from the mining forum, from people with the same card and miner as me,
and it seems to work fine with those other pools. )

Is it that -f flag I need to boost up?

And if I do will I be able to keep working at my desktop without it slowing to a crawl?

Thanks

[Vanderbleek]

If your miner is rejecting many shares at all, you're probably using an incompatible miner. Look at https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/P2Pool#Miners . Is your FPS really low? You should have it at about 30.

I don't know what FPS means in this context; how to check it or change it with this miner.

I run MSI Afterburner to overclock my 5870 card: 990 core clock; 300 memory clock; no change to the default voltage.

I use poclbm_py2exe_20120205, with these flags: -d0 -v -w128 -f1
( not sure what any of those flags do... got it from the mining forum, from people with the same card and miner as me,
and it seems to work fine with those other pools. )

Is it that -f flag I need to boost up?

And if I do will I be able to keep working at my desktop without it slowing to a crawl?

Thanks

Yes, bump that up, and yes, you will be able to work on your desktop.

[lueo]

Are there better ways to stop p2pool?

I am pressing Ctrl+C to stop it right now.

[Fiyasko]

Are there better ways to stop p2pool?

I am pressing Ctrl+C to stop it right now.

I can turn two button into one for you, Click the X, There! one mouse click!
(but seriously your question is rather vague, Do you wish to Pause p2pool? anyone can stop it easily)

[Red Emerald]

Are there better ways to stop p2pool?

I am pressing Ctrl+C to stop it right now.

I can turn two button into one for you, Click the X, There! one mouse click!
(but seriously your question is rather vague, Do you wish to Pause p2pool? anyone can stop it easily)

I think he was asking if there was some hotkey like "q" or something.  Ctrl+C is what you want.

[Rubberduckie]

I'm confused: was this block mined by P2pool or BTC Guild http://blockchain.info/block-index/870684/000000000000079f7e918f3fba8f758383e1061c5d4eb8b3742612dedc23c00e  ?

 

[ancow]

I'm confused: was this block mined by P2pool or BTC Guild http://blockchain.info/block-index/870684/000000000000079f7e918f3fba8f758383e1061c5d4eb8b3742612dedc23c00e  ?

 

P2pool.

[Rubberduckie]

That's weird as I didn't get a payout even though my address shows up there

[ancow]

If your address is in there, you didn't only get a payout, you can actually see how much you got paid.
It doesn't seem to mention whether that block was orphaned, though...

[Boognish]

That's weird as I didn't get a payout even though my address shows up there

I haven't been paid out for the last block either.  The one before that took a really long time to show up too, about two hours.  This one is coming up on 2hrs now as well so I'm assuming it'll show up eventually.  I'm sitting here reading articles for work, but keep looking up to see if there's a new pop-up box on my computer.

Damn this new hobby  

[kano]

I'm confused: was this block mined by P2pool or BTC Guild http://blockchain.info/block-index/870684/000000000000079f7e918f3fba8f758383e1061c5d4eb8b3742612dedc23c00e  ?

 

P2pool.

No BTC Guild won with 0000000000000c163ce8827e37bb459161e6978dc1ff0c052c53dd7f5858608a
So I guess it was orphaned (it was block 167283)

From looking at the blockchain directly the P2Pool blocks I can see recently

Since: 167202 17:32:47 17-Feb-2012 UTC (0x4f3e8f3f) (which was EMC)

167248 23:29:39 17-Feb-2012 UTC (0x4f3ee2e3) 0000000000000ba9b7f34ca705e8a56ea02a8515644efd48175e157844666c5d
167271 02:29:06 18-Feb-2012 UTC (0x4f3f0cf2) 0000000000000c128adadedd348061952fa5c9bd78320ee25052d2b74a10573f
167276 03:44:22 18-Feb-2012 UTC (0x4f3f1e96) 000000000000050c941e3f8e4789b5118acf86f8b1762ab9dfd2fe8b26d2411f

Up to 07:19:03 18-Feb-2012 UTC (0x4f3f50e7) (the last block as at now)

Edit: I should add - that when there's an orphan battle, who do you think will win?
A solo P2Pool bitcoind with 8 connections or BTC Guild's bitcoind with ? connections?
If they post them very closely together the winner is usually the one with the most connections and the fastest internet.

Edit2: and if you look at the 2 block hashes, the BTC Guild one is not the one with the harder difficulty either.
000000000000079f7e918f3fba8f758383e1061c5d4eb8b3742612dedc23c00e P2P
0000000000000c163ce8827e37bb459161e6978dc1ff0c052c53dd7f5858608a BTCG

[Rubberduckie]

Bugger