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August 21, 2011, 07:31:13 PM
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The whole process of mining reminds me amazingly of Warhammer. I just keep screaming "Blood for the Blood God" as I watch the stats change.

There is something insanely wrong with me.

 Grin I got a good laugh out of that. I agree I do like watching the numbers go up.
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August 22, 2011, 02:02:59 PM
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A lot of people still don't fully understand SMPPS.  PPLNS is even more complicated.  Don't hurry implementing it, please, you still have less negative buffer than Eligius SMPPS.

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August 22, 2011, 02:26:27 PM
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I'm curious how many people here actually prefer PPLNS over SMPPS. Personally, I jumped on to ars because of SMPPS.
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August 22, 2011, 03:23:23 PM
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I'm curious how many people here actually prefer PPLNS over SMPPS. Personally, I jumped on to ars because of SMPPS.

If BurningToad can get the "simulated" PPLNS payout active, that would help a lot of people, myself included, understand how it'd compare.

Frankly, I don't care HOW the math is done, if it's just some sort of magical machine picking numbers out of the air, as long as I get payment on a regular basis, and can understand why or why I'm not getting paid. That's it. There's a whole lot of minutiae I simply don't give a damn about.
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August 22, 2011, 04:24:38 PM
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you still have less negative buffer than Eligius SMPPS.
lol? Eligius has a huge positive buffer. I don't see it going negative any time soon.

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August 22, 2011, 05:53:19 PM
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you still have less negative buffer than Eligius SMPPS.
lol? Eligius has a huge positive buffer. I don't see it going negative any time soon.

I'm sure he's referring to the payment backlog.  The difference between having to wait for several future blocks because of a payment queue vs having to wait for several future blocks because of an SMPPS credit/negative buffer is largely semantics.  Both amount to having to wait to get paid.  And currently the wait at Ars is much less than the wait at Eligius (which was his point).

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August 22, 2011, 11:56:27 PM
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I really don't get it why people are complaining and argumenting about different payout systems? Are you ALL hoppers?! WTF!  Huh

The reason why I joined ARS 4 weeks ago and never looked back was that the pool wasn't down, not even once. At BitLC, Elegius, Deepbit and Guild the pools were regularly and annoyingly often and shockingly long DOWN.

At ARS - not once.  Grin

Another reason is the helpful community.

That's why I love ARS and will stay there. You Hoppers go where ever you wish, and please take that 50% hashing power with you, it stinks anyway and messes up my rank in the stats!  Undecided


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August 23, 2011, 12:00:47 AM
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I like it mostly cause it is the most maneuverable. I can use the computer if I want to game and only be down maybe only 0.01 btc. If I was on a different non pps I would have to sweat if I missed mining at a good time. Also the uptime has been good to.
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August 23, 2011, 12:07:02 AM
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I like it mostly cause it is the most maneuverable. I can use the computer if I want to game and only be down maybe only 0.01 btc. If I was on a different non pps I would have to sweat if I missed mining at a good time. Also the uptime has been good to.

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Agree - good point, although I only change the aggression on my main GPU when starting to use the computer. So the difference in total #power for me would be marginally. Still the most compelling reason for ARS is the uptime; I personally like the excellent readability of the Interface. But that's a matter of taste.

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August 23, 2011, 12:13:43 AM
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I like it mostly cause it is the most maneuverable. I can use the computer if I want to game and only be down maybe only 0.01 btc. If I was on a different non pps I would have to sweat if I missed mining at a good time. Also the uptime has been good to.

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Agree - good point, although I only change the aggression on my main GPU when starting to use the computer. So the difference in total #power for me would be marginally. Still the most compelling reason for ARS is the uptime; I personally like the excellent readability of the Interface. But that's a matter of taste.

Yes the interface information is good to.It probably is one of the most detailed pools. I like taking a look at the speed and you can even see how much other people donate compared to you. Their is just so much detail to look at! This also makes me feel safe than btcguild especially ,since it is mostly upfront.
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August 23, 2011, 08:17:01 AM
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I really don't get it why people are complaining and argumenting about different payout systems? Are you ALL hoppers?! WTF!  Huh

The reason why I joined ARS 4 weeks ago and never looked back was that the pool wasn't down, not even once. At BitLC, Elegius, Deepbit and Guild the pools were regularly and annoyingly often and shockingly long DOWN.

At ARS - not once.  Grin

Another reason is the helpful community.

That's why I love ARS and will stay there. You Hoppers go where ever you wish, and please take that 50% hashing power with you, it stinks anyway and messes up my rank in the stats!  Undecided



Don't forget though, a lot of the other pools were down because they were targets of DDOSes; ARS isn't immune I'm sure, we just haven't been DDOSed yet. When I was in deepbit, it was a daily occurrence; "oh, lol, we're being DDOSed again, kekekekeke". I think it's mostly luck that we haven't been DDOSed, and not so much a design difference in the Amazon server BurningToad has us on.
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August 23, 2011, 12:20:46 PM
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THIS is the way to run a bitcoin PPS pool. Thank you! +1 from me!
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August 23, 2011, 03:16:58 PM
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you still have less negative buffer than Eligius SMPPS.
lol? Eligius has a huge positive buffer. I don't see it going negative any time soon.

I'm sure he's referring to the payment backlog.  The difference between having to wait for several future blocks because of a payment queue vs having to wait for several future blocks because of an SMPPS credit/negative buffer is largely semantics.  Both amount to having to wait to get paid.  And currently the wait at Ars is much less than the wait at Eligius (which was his point).

It's kinda hard to find the relevant info on Eligius.  I tried to figure out when I'd get paid if I started mining at Eligius and it wasn't 100% straightforward, but I could tell it would take longer.  Ars is much better, it has the buffer clearly displayed on the pool stats page.  If Eligius has a comparable stats page, I couldn't find it.

I hope that even after PPLNS is implemented, it will be an option #2 for miners, so we can choose which payout system to use.

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August 23, 2011, 04:06:55 PM
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do you guys offer mining on port 80?

gotta work around the firewall here at the office   Grin

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August 23, 2011, 05:03:03 PM
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BurningToad,
  Firstly let me compliment you on a great, simple easy to use website.  No fancy HTML to get in the way. Plenty of data and information that is easy to find.  Simple links that just go to a page that can be refreshed with the f5 key.  Easy to read tabular data. (tables are not a bad thing, this is what the <table tag was designed for.) NICE JOB!


I do have a question about one of my stats. (please anyone jump in that knows the answer)

My  'Paid Work:'  is 1.54464874 BTC,  but yesterday it was    1.41566717.  I have only taken one payout since I started, so how did the pad work change from 1.4 to 1.5 ?


I dont really care about 10 centabits, but I just want to make sure my Bitcoin Payment Address did not get comprimised.

Thank you.

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August 23, 2011, 05:24:58 PM
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Unpaid work goes up with each share submitted by the current PPS value.  It always goes up, it can't go down.
Paid work goes up whenever your Unpaid work > Paid work, and the pool has BTC to pay you.  This means that paid work can't go down either, only up.
When BTC gets added to "paid work", it also gets added to your "current balance."

This current balance is where you can actually take BTC payouts from.  So your case of paid work increasing is very normal and expected.  The total payout you have actually sent to your BTC address is tracked in a different place.  Here you can see all transactions out of your account.  Your "paid work" should be equal to your 'Current Balance' plus the Total Sent on the bottom of the following link.

https://arsbitcoin.com/payoutHistory.php

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August 23, 2011, 06:17:25 PM
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Unpaid work goes up with each share submitted by the current PPS value.  It always goes up, it can't go down.
Paid work goes up whenever your Unpaid work > Paid work, and the pool has BTC to pay you.  This means that paid work can't go down either, only up.
When BTC gets added to "paid work", it also gets added to your "current balance."

This current balance is where you can actually take BTC payouts from.  So your case of paid work increasing is very normal and expected.  The total payout you have actually sent to your BTC address is tracked in a different place.  Here you can see all transactions out of your account.  Your "paid work" should be equal to your 'Current Balance' plus the Total Sent on the bottom of the following link.
https://arsbitcoin.com/payoutHistory.php

I feel pretty stupid now  Wink  Thanks for the quick response.

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August 23, 2011, 06:32:01 PM
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I feel pretty stupid now  Wink  Thanks for the quick response.

Nah, I really need to have a glossary, or mouse-over tooltips that explain each item since this is a system that is different from most other pools.

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August 23, 2011, 07:00:38 PM
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do you guys offer mining on port 80?

gotta work around the firewall here at the office   Grin

No, we don't support this at the moment.  I haven't looked into setting it up yet.

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August 23, 2011, 07:36:21 PM
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thanks for the info!

i'll check back periodically for this.

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