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February 03, 2012, 12:29:01 AM
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So is this pool still good to go considering it's in the negative?  If I mine then try to cash out it'll just put in a long queue where others are ahead of me waiting for theirs?

It isn't that you are put in a queue, it is that you receive a proportionate share from each block mined. Essentially, you'll be paid out slower than you are earning it, but it's not that you have to wait for 20 blocks and everyone else to get paid before you get your piece.
Are you sure about that?

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February 03, 2012, 12:42:21 AM
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So is this pool still good to go considering it's in the negative?  If I mine then try to cash out it'll just put in a long queue where others are ahead of me waiting for theirs?

It isn't that you are put in a queue, it is that you receive a proportionate share from each block mined. Essentially, you'll be paid out slower than you are earning it, but it's not that you have to wait for 20 blocks and everyone else to get paid before you get your piece.
Are you sure about that?

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February 03, 2012, 01:10:26 AM
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It isn't that you are put in a queue, it is that you receive a proportionate share from each block mined. Essentially, you'll be paid out slower than you are earning it, but it's not that you have to wait for 20 blocks and everyone else to get paid before you get your piece.

Ah I see.  Was just wondering how that worked.  The rate they pay out per share is as good as it gets from what I can tell compared to other pools but didn't know how the pay out works since it's in a negative buffer.

Was just curious on the delay in paying out but it must be good still if they've got over 300 Ghash worth of processing otherwise everyone would've already checked out.

Thanks for the response.

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February 03, 2012, 01:43:47 AM
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Payouts are a lot slower now than back in the day when this pool was over 1000 GH/s. In the end it doesn't really matter but sometimes it's agonizing to see payment trickling out. BT said some time back he would give a decent warning before closing down but I have to wonder what would happen at that point. Presumably the last few remaining miners here could be left with balances due (and no mining to payout) unless someone is going to donate/mine to clear them.

This was always my best paying pool and my choice would be to keep mining here but I only use it as backup now. Most other pools I've tried, even if they payout as well, give me high reject rates. I don't know why that is - if it's cheating or not, but the only pool that has consistently given me low rejects is BTCGuild. So I mine there because I figure it's better to be up front with a 5% fee than sneaky with high rejects.

I see now MtRed is going No-Fee so that may be worth trying again.

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February 03, 2012, 11:19:32 PM
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I really miss mining at this pool...

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February 03, 2012, 11:34:48 PM
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I really miss mining at this pool...

Turning that buffer around Cheesy
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February 03, 2012, 11:43:40 PM
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I really miss mining at this pool...

Turning that buffer around Cheesy
If only it were that easy... But unless BT starts maintaining the pool again, I won't have the same kind of trust in the pool as I used to.

AND, that negative buffer is huge! Tongue

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February 04, 2012, 12:14:07 AM
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I really miss mining at this pool...

Turning that buffer around Cheesy
If only it were that easy... But unless BT starts maintaining the pool again, I won't have the same kind of trust in the pool as I used to.

AND, that negative buffer is huge! Tongue

In full swing, we were finding like, 3-4 blocks a day and at one point, I am pretty sure the buffer was well over 2000. A run like that could turn it around pretty quick. Makes it a little harder with only a third of the hashing power we had then, but it's possible.

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February 06, 2012, 03:36:38 PM
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Unfortunatly my efforts are at abc now as the stales/invalids are just getting too high with no matanence here Sad Its a shame, i really liked this pool too. Newer and better idea's always come along though and i quite like getting payed for invalids and stales so although its not what i want to say, ARS just isnt at the top of the pile for good pools anymore. Thats a bit harsh, its a good pool still, just not up the top where it once stood tall Smiley

Swear im in top 60 (blue waffle) on lifetime everything in ARS too Sad be a shame see that get knocked off the board too. Ill always have my miner default here if abc goes down at any point and if things get better for BT you never know, I may be back Smiley

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February 06, 2012, 06:17:18 PM
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Unfortunatly my efforts are at abc now as the stales/invalids are just getting too high with no matanence here Sad Its a shame, i really liked this pool too. Newer and better idea's always come along though and i quite like getting payed for invalids and stales so although its not what i want to say, ARS just isnt at the top of the pile for good pools anymore. Thats a bit harsh, its a good pool still, just not up the top where it once stood tall Smiley

Swear im in top 60 (blue waffle) on lifetime everything in ARS too Sad be a shame see that get knocked off the board too. Ill always have my miner default here if abc goes down at any point and if things get better for BT you never know, I may be back Smiley

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ARS is still cheaper taking everything into account.

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February 07, 2012, 06:41:13 PM
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Unfortunatly my efforts are at abc now as the stales/invalids are just getting too high with no matanence here Sad Its a shame, i really liked this pool too. Newer and better idea's always come along though and i quite like getting payed for invalids and stales so although its not what i want to say, ARS just isnt at the top of the pile for good pools anymore. Thats a bit harsh, its a good pool still, just not up the top where it once stood tall Smiley

Swear im in top 60 (blue waffle) on lifetime everything in ARS too Sad be a shame see that get knocked off the board too. Ill always have my miner default here if abc goes down at any point and if things get better for BT you never know, I may be back Smiley

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ARS is still cheaper taking everything into account.

After a few days i have to disagree. I'm getting about 0.1-0.2 BTC extra every 2 days. thats about .5 a week conservatively which isn’t a lot but its noticeable. If BT comes back i will think about making ARS my main pool again but as it is i don't know if it will be here in 3 months or not. I stangly get between 70-200MH on here still although i have no miners mining to it. Seems to be a bug with CGMiner i think. Weird
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February 07, 2012, 09:40:05 PM
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I stangly get between 70-200MH on here still although i have no miners mining to it. Seems to be a bug with CGMiner i think. Weird
Do you have it set as a failover pool still? I'm pretty sure that whenever you get a LP or its taking too long to get work, cgminer will shift to another pool for a share or few.

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February 08, 2012, 12:51:45 AM
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I stangly get between 70-200MH on here still although i have no miners mining to it. Seems to be a bug with CGMiner i think. Weird
Do you have it set as a failover pool still? I'm pretty sure that whenever you get a LP or its taking too long to get work, cgminer will shift to another pool for a share or few.
cgminer has an option "failover-only" which you need to set "true" if you don't want to leak to backup pools. Otherwise any time it can't get work fast enough on the main pool it will keep going with a share on the backup pool.

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February 08, 2012, 09:42:16 AM
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Ah, Thank you, that will probably be it. I just left it how it was, In thought failover was default settings in CGMiner. Thanks for that Wink
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March 01, 2012, 04:40:43 AM
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from -840 down to -1135, ouch that hurts, thanks god i mine @ EMC. i hope arsbtc will get a long lucky round Smiley

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March 01, 2012, 07:05:26 AM
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from -840 down to -1135, ouch that hurts, thanks god i mine @ EMC. i hope arsbtc will get a long lucky round Smiley
I was just going to say something... I have a bunch of failover shares there, and I wish the pool would find a block or two soon!
That luck is brutal...  Sad

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March 01, 2012, 11:12:37 AM
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FYI, back when I mined at this pool there was a bug with the website that when two blocks we found in quick succession, the second one would not show up in the stats but would be in the pool wallet. I do not know if this bug was ever fixed, but it could be a contributing factor as to why the pool has been having back luck.

If you go back in this thread, you can see instances where burningtoad would let us know a block was found and add it to the stats.
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March 01, 2012, 11:52:30 AM
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I was going to suggest to simply use blockchain.info to work out the ARS blocks ... using the IP address info blockchain.info has ...
Then I checked 169082 on blockchain.info and it says Eligius

Looking at 169082 it is clearly NOT an Eligius block so unfortunately that idea fails also.
... and the ARS blocks don't have anything in the coinbase transaction that identifies them either

Oh well - I can't believe I'd say this - but coinbase spam does have a use sometimes Sad

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March 01, 2012, 04:39:57 PM
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Im also wondering that something must be wrong with this pool, surely statisticly variance cant be this bad over such an extensive period.

Sure its hashrate dropped from ~900GH avg to ~300GH avg since dropping from surplus to -1000coins most of the time but still this variance isnt even seen solomining like I am doing with part of my farm o_0

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March 01, 2012, 06:35:13 PM
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Im also wondering that something must be wrong with this pool, surely statisticly variance cant be this bad over such an extensive period.

Sure its hashrate dropped from ~900GH avg to ~300GH avg since dropping from surplus to -1000coins most of the time but still this variance isnt even seen solomining like I am doing with part of my farm o_0

don't forget this pool was in a big positive buffer for a long time....

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