[0 GH/s 0% fee SMPPS] ArsBitcoin mining pool!

[Big Time Coin]

A lot of people still don't fully understand SMPPS.  PPLNS is even more complicated.  Don't hurry implementing it, please, you still have less negative buffer than Eligius SMPPS.

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[DareC]

I'm curious how many people here actually prefer PPLNS over SMPPS. Personally, I jumped on to ars because of SMPPS.

[Hotdog453]

I'm curious how many people here actually prefer PPLNS over SMPPS. Personally, I jumped on to ars because of SMPPS.

If BurningToad can get the "simulated" PPLNS payout active, that would help a lot of people, myself included, understand how it'd compare.

Frankly, I don't care HOW the math is done, if it's just some sort of magical machine picking numbers out of the air, as long as I get payment on a regular basis, and can understand why or why I'm not getting paid. That's it. There's a whole lot of minutiae I simply don't give a damn about.

[Luke-Jr]

you still have less negative buffer than Eligius SMPPS.

lol? Eligius has a huge positive buffer. I don't see it going negative any time soon.

[twmz]

you still have less negative buffer than Eligius SMPPS.

lol? Eligius has a huge positive buffer. I don't see it going negative any time soon.

I'm sure he's referring to the payment backlog.  The difference between having to wait for several future blocks because of a payment queue vs having to wait for several future blocks because of an SMPPS credit/negative buffer is largely semantics.  Both amount to having to wait to get paid.  And currently the wait at Ars is much less than the wait at Eligius (which was his point).

[supermine]

I really don't get it why people are complaining and argumenting about different payout systems? Are you ALL hoppers?! WTF! 

The reason why I joined ARS 4 weeks ago and never looked back was that the pool wasn't down, not even once. At BitLC, Elegius, Deepbit and Guild the pools were regularly and annoyingly often and shockingly long DOWN.

At ARS - not once. 

Another reason is the helpful community.

That's why I love ARS and will stay there. You Hoppers go where ever you wish, and please take that 50% hashing power with you, it stinks anyway and messes up my rank in the stats! 

[mute20]

I like it mostly cause it is the most maneuverable. I can use the computer if I want to game and only be down maybe only 0.01 btc. If I was on a different non pps I would have to sweat if I missed mining at a good time. Also the uptime has been good to.

[supermine]

I like it mostly cause it is the most maneuverable. I can use the computer if I want to game and only be down maybe only 0.01 btc. If I was on a different non pps I would have to sweat if I missed mining at a good time. Also the uptime has been good to.

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Agree - good point, although I only change the aggression on my main GPU when starting to use the computer. So the difference in total #power for me would be marginally. Still the most compelling reason for ARS is the uptime; I personally like the excellent readability of the Interface. But that's a matter of taste.

[mute20]

I like it mostly cause it is the most maneuverable. I can use the computer if I want to game and only be down maybe only 0.01 btc. If I was on a different non pps I would have to sweat if I missed mining at a good time. Also the uptime has been good to.

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Agree - good point, although I only change the aggression on my main GPU when starting to use the computer. So the difference in total #power for me would be marginally. Still the most compelling reason for ARS is the uptime; I personally like the excellent readability of the Interface. But that's a matter of taste.

Yes the interface information is good to.It probably is one of the most detailed pools. I like taking a look at the speed and you can even see how much other people donate compared to you. Their is just so much detail to look at! This also makes me feel safe than btcguild especially ,since it is mostly upfront.

[Hotdog453]

I really don't get it why people are complaining and argumenting about different payout systems? Are you ALL hoppers?! WTF! 

The reason why I joined ARS 4 weeks ago and never looked back was that the pool wasn't down, not even once. At BitLC, Elegius, Deepbit and Guild the pools were regularly and annoyingly often and shockingly long DOWN.

At ARS - not once. 

Another reason is the helpful community.

That's why I love ARS and will stay there. You Hoppers go where ever you wish, and please take that 50% hashing power with you, it stinks anyway and messes up my rank in the stats! 

Don't forget though, a lot of the other pools were down because they were targets of DDOSes; ARS isn't immune I'm sure, we just haven't been DDOSed yet. When I was in deepbit, it was a daily occurrence; "oh, lol, we're being DDOSed again, kekekekeke". I think it's mostly luck that we haven't been DDOSed, and not so much a design difference in the Amazon server BurningToad has us on.

[Atroxes]

THIS is the way to run a bitcoin PPS pool. Thank you! +1 from me!

[Big Time Coin]

you still have less negative buffer than Eligius SMPPS.

lol? Eligius has a huge positive buffer. I don't see it going negative any time soon.

I'm sure he's referring to the payment backlog.  The difference between having to wait for several future blocks because of a payment queue vs having to wait for several future blocks because of an SMPPS credit/negative buffer is largely semantics.  Both amount to having to wait to get paid.  And currently the wait at Ars is much less than the wait at Eligius (which was his point).

It's kinda hard to find the relevant info on Eligius.  I tried to figure out when I'd get paid if I started mining at Eligius and it wasn't 100% straightforward, but I could tell it would take longer.  Ars is much better, it has the buffer clearly displayed on the pool stats page.  If Eligius has a comparable stats page, I couldn't find it.

I hope that even after PPLNS is implemented, it will be an option #2 for miners, so we can choose which payout system to use.

[runlinux]

do you guys offer mining on port 80?

gotta work around the firewall here at the office   

[jjiimm_64]

BurningToad,
  Firstly let me compliment you on a great, simple easy to use website.  No fancy HTML to get in the way. Plenty of data and information that is easy to find.  Simple links that just go to a page that can be refreshed with the f5 key.  Easy to read tabular data. (tables are not a bad thing, this is what the <table tag was designed for.) NICE JOB!


I do have a question about one of my stats. (please anyone jump in that knows the answer)

My  'Paid Work:'  is 1.54464874 BTC,  but yesterday it was    1.41566717.  I have only taken one payout since I started, so how did the pad work change from 1.4 to 1.5 ?


I dont really care about 10 centabits, but I just want to make sure my Bitcoin Payment Address did not get comprimised.

Thank you.

[BurningToad]

Unpaid work goes up with each share submitted by the current PPS value.  It always goes up, it can't go down.
Paid work goes up whenever your Unpaid work > Paid work, and the pool has BTC to pay you.  This means that paid work can't go down either, only up.
When BTC gets added to "paid work", it also gets added to your "current balance."

This current balance is where you can actually take BTC payouts from.  So your case of paid work increasing is very normal and expected.  The total payout you have actually sent to your BTC address is tracked in a different place.  Here you can see all transactions out of your account.  Your "paid work" should be equal to your 'Current Balance' plus the Total Sent on the bottom of the following link.

https://arsbitcoin.com/payoutHistory.php

[jjiimm_64]

Unpaid work goes up with each share submitted by the current PPS value.  It always goes up, it can't go down.
Paid work goes up whenever your Unpaid work > Paid work, and the pool has BTC to pay you.  This means that paid work can't go down either, only up.
When BTC gets added to "paid work", it also gets added to your "current balance."

This current balance is where you can actually take BTC payouts from.  So your case of paid work increasing is very normal and expected.  The total payout you have actually sent to your BTC address is tracked in a different place.  Here you can see all transactions out of your account.  Your "paid work" should be equal to your 'Current Balance' plus the Total Sent on the bottom of the following link.
https://arsbitcoin.com/payoutHistory.php

I feel pretty stupid now    Thanks for the quick response.

[BurningToad]

I feel pretty stupid now    Thanks for the quick response.

Nah, I really need to have a glossary, or mouse-over tooltips that explain each item since this is a system that is different from most other pools.

[BurningToad]

do you guys offer mining on port 80?

gotta work around the firewall here at the office   

No, we don't support this at the moment.  I haven't looked into setting it up yet.

[runlinux]

thanks for the info!

i'll check back periodically for this.

[Hotdog453]

thanks for the info!

i'll check back periodically for this.

Hypothetically, you could set up a SOCKS proxy server at your house, on port 80, and use Proxifier or FreeCap to forward all the traffic to.

I do something semi similar; I have a local server running a SOCKS server on the public DSL (rest of the network is corporate), and use Proxifier on the machines running poclbm to direct that application traffic there. Works quite well.