[ANN] POPULOUS WORLD - Invoice trading platform - PPT

[Kalidor]

Any news about the HitBTC adding? Shouldn´t it happen already?

[nitrust]

We are all waiting. Bitpopulous twitter says ant day. I have also tried to contact hitbtc through Twitter.  I haven't gotten a response

[wfskevin94]

We are all waiting. Bitpopulous twitter says ant day. I have also tried to contact hitbtc through Twitter.  I haven't gotten a response

#SALT

[Kalidor]

We are all waiting. Bitpopulous twitter says ant day. I have also tried to contact hitbtc through Twitter.  I haven't gotten a response

Ok thank you. Hope that will be soon. I wait all the time, this makes me ill already

[goldenmean618]

swing trading is for braver souls than me...don't care when it hits an exchange...be nice to see price up but truth is clif's metaphor about tracks and trains is relevant.  we have all watched the tracks being built...speculated about their use and value...ppt will be one of the first engines that will roll by...it will be for all of us as it was for our horseriding ancestors...that is when I'll be watching the price

[AltcoinScamfinder]

I might pick some up since I am expecting SALT (Saltlending.com) to intro within a week or two, and considering they might enter at $1 billion eval it may drag populous up.

[CamVic]

I'm really sorry for all losses…
And BTW thank you... Very good discussion topic! As a newbie I learned a lot reading this all.

[denam]

Buying going on in small tranches if you look carefully at the trading history. The only difference is big buy orders are taken off and have transformed into small ones. PPT is first and more advance than any other in invoice trading market and this will be main advantage which will make real difference along side the efficiency of the platform.

[Freaks]

I'm really sorry for all losses…
And BTW thank you... Very good discussion topic! As a newbie I learned a lot reading this all.

ICO investors are still into huge profit on current price but that is pretty hard to predict about market behavior. This is pure speculation but when beta version will be released current situation will be changed into FOMO buy let's imagine how big potential this market has.

[profitgenerator212]

I'm really sorry for all losses…
And BTW thank you... Very good discussion topic! As a newbie I learned a lot reading this all.

ICO investors are still into huge profit on current price but that is pretty hard to predict about market behavior. This is pure speculation but when beta version will be released current situation will be changed into FOMO buy let's imagine how big potential this market has.

Any news about the beta, I haven't paid attention in the last week or so. Any news since then?

[Phase_Shifter99]

I'm really sorry for all losses…
And BTW thank you... Very good discussion topic! As a newbie I learned a lot reading this all.

ICO investors are still into huge profit on current price but that is pretty hard to predict about market behavior. This is pure speculation but when beta version will be released current situation will be changed into FOMO buy let's imagine how big potential this market has.

Any news about the beta, I haven't paid attention in the last week or so. Any news since then?

Hi Profi,

I had some day ago a look into there Github for Alpha, there is not much to see what going relating to Beta (only the Alpha related)
@Populous, understand you no want to educate the borring slow competition* but you may want to give us atleast a little bit information whats going on with BETA and what you are doing for that ?  

*Comp A:  will not fly (they dont have secret sauce and will die because of missing liquidity), Comp B: dead from start will also not fly(Canada and US fight against Alt-Coins).

[Phase_Shifter99]

I see currently PPT is more or less only traded at mercatox, EtherDelta only 0.01% which is great for everybody - lesson learned well done ! Because we want to keep our PPT. Kick EtherDelta out of the window until they have lesson learned.

[dihari]

I see currently PPT is more or less only traded at mercatox, EtherDelta only 0.01% which is great for everybody - lesson learned well done ! Because we want to keep our PPT. Kick EtherDelta out of the window until they have lesson learned.

People are waiting for hitbtc, so I think they are keep their PPT until we have a big volume exchanges.
We really need big volume, and obviously we tired with prices manipulate on ED.

[bitcircle]

I see currently PPT is more or less only traded at mercatox, EtherDelta only 0.01% which is great for everybody - lesson learned well done ! Because we want to keep our PPT. Kick EtherDelta out of the window until they have lesson learned.

People are waiting for hitbtc, so I think they are keep their PPT until we have a big volume exchanges.
We really need big volume, and obviously we tired with prices manipulate on ED.

Indeed when this token will be listed there we will see big volume for it which is under the process soon this market will go live. I also agreed with you big exchanges will push this token on a healthy track and this will grow more strongly in coming days.

[profitgenerator212]

Hi Profi,

I had some day ago a look into there Github for Alpha, there is not much to see what going relating to Beta (only the Alpha related)
@Populous, understand you no want to educate the borring slow competition* but you may want to give us atleast a little bit information whats going on with BETA and what you are doing for that ?  

*Comp A:  will not fly (they dont have secret sauce and will die because of missing liquidity), Comp B: dead from start will also not fly(Canada and US fight against Alt-Coins).

That sounds promising.

I see currently PPT is more or less only traded at mercatox, EtherDelta only 0.01% which is great for everybody - lesson learned well done ! Because we want to keep our PPT. Kick EtherDelta out of the window until they have lesson learned.

It's not etherdelta's fault. I am really sorry for your loss, but you have to realize that it's not ED's fault.

People really have to bookmark stuff and not just use google searches and things like that. Google can't be trusted.

[Phase_Shifter99]

Hi Profi,

I had some day ago a look into there Github for Alpha, there is not much to see what going relating to Beta (only the Alpha related)
@Populous, understand you no want to educate the borring slow competition* but you may want to give us atleast a little bit information whats going on with BETA and what you are doing for that ?  

*Comp A:  will not fly (they dont have secret sauce and will die because of missing liquidity), Comp B: dead from start will also not fly(Canada and US fight against Alt-Coins).

That sounds promising.

I see currently PPT is more or less only traded at mercatox, EtherDelta only 0.01% which is great for everybody - lesson learned well done ! Because we want to keep our PPT. Kick EtherDelta out of the window until they have lesson learned.

It's not etherdelta's fault. I am really sorry for your loss, but you have to realize that it's not ED's fault.

People really have to bookmark stuff and not just use google searches and things like that. Google can't be trusted.

Yes a mistake happened, but I am also victim of a crime, it would not have happened with HitBTC for example - I would have lost nothing because they have basic phishing protection.

EtherDelta:

Has no basic phishing protection
They are not looking for EtherDelta Phishing sites and report/close with provider -thats lazy  
They not close the holes, I even read that they are not ... (and I not write down what - no to help for the next attack) To me they are amateurs....
To make it short they offering a service and have a due diligence

And yes because of this I got paranoid for security and changed some things. Even I thing about to leave the crypto area, nice that we have decentralization but to loose money like it is possible with crypto thats not normal,  can not work.  Also to see you own money stolen on another account without chance to get it back is evil - that nothing for me,  where is the human factor in that ....(should possible to set account on blacklist and have a tribunal to freeze account and return money to victim.

[profitgenerator212]

Yes a mistake happened, but I am also victim of a crime, it would not have happened with HitBTC for example - I would have lost nothing because they have basic phishing protection.

Then resolve that with the police.

No you don't get it, Etherdelta offered a decentralized trustless exchange, and that means personal responsibility.

In HitBTC there is a middleman, which means there is counterparty risk (exchange hack, DDOS, owners running away, who knows?)


A decentralized trustless setup is more secure, and people have to be responsible. I am really sorry for your loss, but this is really like a learning experience for people to be more careful.

I myself have also lost like about 0.7-1BTC in the past since I sent stuff to the wrong address. I just learned to be careful. I don't need a bank or middleman to process that transaction for me.

It's the convenience vs sovereignty argument, which one is more important for people?

Has no basic phishing protection

Of course they do, they have HTTPS certificate, signed by a CA.

Most scammers don't have HTTPS certificate, how should they know ahead that scammers will buy HTTPS certificate.

Actually how the fuck did those scammers get a HTTPS certificate in he first place, doesn't these CA's scan for similar links and not let people use similar looking links? I dont understand how this works but isn't the CA liable too which gave out the certificate to the scammers?

They are not looking for EtherDelta Phishing sites and report/close with provider -thats lazy 

Hey it's just 1 guy I believe, they don't have the manpower I believe. Isn't that the responsibility of the CA to look for phishing links?

[Phase_Shifter99]

Yes a mistake happened, but I am also victim of a crime, it would not have happened with HitBTC for example - I would have lost nothing because they have basic phishing protection.

Then resolve that with the police.

No you don't get it, Etherdelta offered a decentralized trustless exchange, and that means personal responsibility.

In HitBTC there is a middleman, which means there is counterparty risk (exchange hack, DDOS, owners running away, who knows?)


A decentralized trustless setup is more secure, and people have to be responsible. I am really sorry for your loss, but this is really like a learning experience for people to be more careful.

I myself have also lost like about 0.7-1BTC in the past since I sent stuff to the wrong address. I just learned to be careful. I don't need a bank or middleman to process that transaction for me.

It's the convenience vs sovereignty argument, which one is more important for people?

Has no basic phishing protection

Of course they do, they have HTTPS certificate, signed by a CA.

Most scammers don't have HTTPS certificate, how should they know ahead that scammers will buy HTTPS certificate.

Actually how the fuck did those scammers get a HTTPS certificate in he first place, doesn't these CA's scan for similar links and not let people use similar looking links? I dont understand how this works but isn't the CA liable too which gave out the certificate to the scammers?

They are not looking for EtherDelta Phishing sites and report/close with provider -thats lazy  

Hey it's just 1 guy I believe, they don't have the manpower I believe. Isn't that the responsibility of the CA to look for phishing links?

"No you don't get it, Etherdelta offered a decentralized trustless exchange, and that means personal responsibility."

This time it was phishing, next time its the may they will change the dns records or hack the source code and put a ester egg inside.

This one I have to explain: "Has no basic phishing protection"

This is of course a signed CA but also protection needed if the attacker has your credentials, and in my example with HITBTC, they are sending out a confirmation email to the account holder before its is possible to clean up the account. How to integrate that into a decentralized ED is another questions, but this I would I like to see before I get trust again into ED.


But anyway I understand your point. Lets stop have your point and its valid for you and possible a lot of the others.

[jooj]

From a period not infrequently did not see any new steps in the development of Populous the platform, is one of you have new news about this a Populous platform development progress?

[tottong]

I see currently PPT is more or less only traded at mercatox, EtherDelta only 0.01% which is great for everybody - lesson learned well done ! Because we want to keep our PPT. Kick EtherDelta out of the window until they have lesson learned.

People are waiting for hitbtc, so I think they are keep their PPT until we have a big volume exchanges.
We really need big volume, and obviously we tired with prices manipulate on ED.

How much a big volume on coinmarketplace and will get listing on hitbtc exchanges?
We expected that it will get listing soon in several exchanges like hitbtc to increase volume trading.