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January 02, 2018, 04:03:00 AM |
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I purchased my ppt in August but have moved them to different MEW wallets which wallet are the airdop tokens sent to?
Would they have been sent to the MEW wallet when the snapshot was taken or would they be sent to where they are now ie nano ledger wallet?
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should be the wallet they were in on 4th Nov, if they aren't in the current one Well ive tried adding it to both MEW wallets in question, with the contact address, PXT symbol and 8 decimal places etc and when i hit save and try to add it a red bar pops up saying "Unable to add a custom token with the same symbol as an existing custom token. Try clicking the "Load Tokens" button, or choosing a different token symbol" thoughts? Also the LOAD token button has disappeared it now only has Show all tokens or Add custom Tokens? the contract address that the tokens are sent from is https://etherscan.io/address/0x2360ac7709057ea3d455d1caf13dc63913c64cb5 you could search there and see all the airdrops up to date and to which wallets, they seem to stop about 10hrs ago. Im having the exact same problem, the PXT ticker isn't showing either. I moved all my ppt to a new wallet after the ether delta hack two weeks ago so i don't think its looking good. If anyone has any info to help resolve this would be much appreciated.
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Feng Shui
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January 02, 2018, 01:26:46 PM |
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I'm glad that in 2018 the price of PPT is back in the $ 40 range, and I'm getting more and more optimistic that the future of PPT will be brilliant and the price will skyrocket and reach at least $ 100 this year.
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jooj
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January 02, 2018, 01:53:45 PM |
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I would like to know all details regarding XBR token, what's the Populous team plane for the XBR token?
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Cossack
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January 02, 2018, 03:40:31 PM |
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Hello, why did not I add the tokens of the XBR? Who can I contact to get my tokens?
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panorama
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January 02, 2018, 09:37:49 PM |
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Populous will be providing a form that needs to be filled out if you didn't receive the airdrop but you think you were eligible.
No word yet on when it will be available though.
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panorama
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January 02, 2018, 09:41:12 PM |
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Populous will be providing a form that needs to be filled out if you didn't receive the airdrop but you think you were eligible.
No word yet on when it will be available though.
I should point out that you're only eligible if you held tokens as of the November 4th snapshot date and continued to hold through the December 31st airdrop date. If you sold after November 4th, you aren't eligible to receive the airdrop. The form is really to identify people that may have moved their coins to another wallet.
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Setya Novanto
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January 02, 2018, 11:58:57 PM |
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I'm sure this year's ppt price will reach $ 500, so I will continue to buy PPT even though the price is almost $ 50, and we expect nothing negative about PPT.
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the_thing
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January 03, 2018, 05:49:08 AM |
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Populous will be providing a form that needs to be filled out if you didn't receive the airdrop but you think you were eligible.
No word yet on when it will be available though.
I should point out that you're only eligible if you held tokens as of the November 4th snapshot date and continued to hold through the December 31st airdrop date. If you sold after November 4th, you aren't eligible to receive the airdrop. The form is really to identify people that may have moved their coins to another wallet. Missing out on an airdropped tokens as well any idea when they will release the form which we have to fill to get PXT tokens?
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January 03, 2018, 05:56:18 AM |
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I'm sure this year's ppt price will reach $ 500, so I will continue to buy PPT even though the price is almost $ 50, and we expect nothing negative about PPT.
If anyone can reach $500 in such a short period it's POPULOUS this is probably one of the best projects out there right now.
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azmojo
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January 03, 2018, 07:51:12 AM |
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So I think most of us are asking what is the value of PPT when measured by traditional means. I'm going to take a stab. I appreciate comments on my ramblings and rough math:
For example, if you can buy a share/token for $1 and earn 3% per year, what will an investor pay for that stock plus $.03 annual earnings? 10x earnings is probably not unreasonable, so probably about $.30 give or take.
We'll ignore a supply/demand imbalance in the auction which would presumably also affect the interest rate and assume we can earn 2% monthly interest (24% annual interest)reliably. Let's also assume that you can use 80% of the current PPT market value to buy an invoice. For example, an $8k invoice would require $10k of PPT.
PPT is about $46 at the moment. 24% of 80% of $46 is $8.80.
Using a Dividend Discount Model with a Discount Rate of 2%, the calculated value per "share" is $440.
The interesting thing is that as the value of the token increases, the value of the earnings increase at the same rate. So a $440 PPT token would supposedly yield $88 annually. This then yields a token dividend valuation of $4408. So there is no limit to what PPT is worth except the actual ability to actually earn 2%.
The ability to earn 2% monthly interest depends on the supply of invoices and auction conditions achieving a consistent 2% monthly interest rate.
Not enough invoices, lower interest rate results in lower returns. Too many invoices results in higher returns.
The DDM doesn't take into account additional value due to anticipated increase in token price.
There are 37M tokens, so to achieve a $1000 token price, each token needs to be able to earn $19.20 interest annually. This requires a supply of $3.7B of invoices available that you can earn 2% monthly on.
That isn't to say that the DDM is accurate of valid, just one attempt at valuing PPT. Once people are able to see what real returns look like, and if they are close to these assumptions then $1000+ is no problem.
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simongoat
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January 03, 2018, 09:57:20 AM |
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I've got my pxt tokens from the airdrop (thanks populous). Can anyone tell me are the pxt tokens going to replace the ppt token or is pxt a new token alongside ppt?
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ashuawei
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January 03, 2018, 11:06:16 AM |
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I've got my pxt tokens from the airdrop (thanks populous). Can anyone tell me are the pxt tokens going to replace the ppt token or is pxt a new token alongside ppt?
yes please. can somebody clarify this. im also confused about this. but on my own understanding, PXT is different from PPT. i dont think it is made to replace PPT.
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panorama
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January 03, 2018, 01:20:33 PM |
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Populous will be providing a form that needs to be filled out if you didn't receive the airdrop but you think you were eligible.
No word yet on when it will be available though.
I should point out that you're only eligible if you held tokens as of the November 4th snapshot date and continued to hold through the December 31st airdrop date. If you sold after November 4th, you aren't eligible to receive the airdrop. The form is really to identify people that may have moved their coins to another wallet. Missing out on an airdropped tokens as well any idea when they will release the form which we have to fill to get PXT tokens? They haven't said when the form will be put out, but my guess is that it should be available soon.
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panorama
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January 03, 2018, 01:21:59 PM |
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I've got my pxt tokens from the airdrop (thanks populous). Can anyone tell me are the pxt tokens going to replace the ppt token or is pxt a new token alongside ppt?
PXT is a new token separate from PPT. They will be publishing a whitepaper for it shortly.
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panorama
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January 03, 2018, 01:33:08 PM Last edit: January 04, 2018, 03:14:21 AM by panorama |
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So I think most of us are asking what is the value of PPT when measured by traditional means. I'm going to take a stab. I appreciate comments on my ramblings and rough math:
For example, if you can buy a share/token for $1 and earn 3% per year, what will an investor pay for that stock plus $.03 annual earnings? 10x earnings is probably not unreasonable, so probably about $.30 give or take.
We'll ignore a supply/demand imbalance in the auction which would presumably also affect the interest rate and assume we can earn 2% monthly interest (24% annual interest)reliably. Let's also assume that you can use 80% of the current PPT market value to buy an invoice. For example, an $8k invoice would require $10k of PPT.
PPT is about $46 at the moment. 24% of 80% of $46 is $8.80.
Using a Dividend Discount Model with a Discount Rate of 2%, the calculated value per "share" is $440.
The interesting thing is that as the value of the token increases, the value of the earnings increase at the same rate. So a $440 PPT token would supposedly yield $88 annually. This then yields a token dividend valuation of $4408. So there is no limit to what PPT is worth except the actual ability to actually earn 2%.
The ability to earn 2% monthly interest depends on the supply of invoices and auction conditions achieving a consistent 2% monthly interest rate.
Not enough invoices, lower interest rate results in lower returns. Too many invoices results in higher returns.
The DDM doesn't take into account additional value due to anticipated increase in token price.
There are 37M tokens, so to achieve a $1000 token price, each token needs to be able to earn $19.20 interest annually. This requires a supply of $3.7B of invoices available that you can earn 2% monthly on.
That isn't to say that the DDM is accurate of valid, just one attempt at valuing PPT. Once people are able to see what real returns look like, and if they are close to these assumptions then $1000+ is no problem.
I think you're on the right track, but I see it a little differently. Because the amount you earn increases with price of the token, you can't really use a DDM approach. As you said, the constraining factor is the volume of available invoices. So the market cap of the tokens should be approximate to the volume of invoices available. It'll be interesting to see what happens if there aren't enough invoices available, but my guess is that it'll result in some sell pressure so the token market cap doesn't ever go significantly above the invoice volume. There are some other factors at play, but that's the primary driver in my opinion. That leads to the question of how much of the factoring market can they capture, as well as how much larger will the market grow now that more small businesses will have access to this type of financing. I published a valuation model in the Telegram group that allows you to play with various assumptions, but that's the approach I used. I can see it going as high as $684 by the end of 2019 under the right circumstances. Please keep in mind that this is not investment advice, so please do your own due diligence.
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Richie_veritas_MiddleRich
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January 03, 2018, 05:07:43 PM |
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Have anyone else than me still not received any pxt tokens?
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