Fourth alt coin thread last three got oversized.

[arielbit]

Hi guys hoping to get some feedback on my room plan:



#1 is my current plan: pull cold air in from the window and push them over rigs with fans behind each rig, then pull hot air out from the front of the rigs and use an exhaust fan in the ceiling to collect hot air and exhaust it out of the roof.  This should be sufficient cooling for about the ~105 GPUs I can fit on that shelving unit

HOWEVER! I would like to leave open the possibility of expanding in the future without having to move the exhaust fan's ceiling location. So I was wondering if #2 would work if I double my size. As you can see I'd be using fans on the ground to push the incoming air up at all the rigs but I'm unsure if that 15 ft (4.5m) is too much distance to hope to carry the air.

Fwiw, I'm dealing with 75-85 Fahrenheit (24-29c) ambient temps

Any thoughts would be appreciated!

there is a danger of pulling rain water too aside of cool air from the window/s since the fans are giving them extra push.

[cheet]

Hi guys hoping to get some feedback on my room plan:

https://i.gyazo.com/d73e124bf0a2ce32e0198c927a095e8f.png

#1 is my current plan: pull cold air in from the window and push them over rigs with fans behind each rig, then pull hot air out from the front of the rigs and use an exhaust fan in the ceiling to collect hot air and exhaust it out of the roof.  This should be sufficient cooling for about the ~105 GPUs I can fit on that shelving unit

HOWEVER! I would like to leave open the possibility of expanding in the future without having to move the exhaust fan's ceiling location. So I was wondering if #2 would work if I double my size. As you can see I'd be using fans on the ground to push the incoming air up at all the rigs but I'm unsure if that 15 ft (4.5m) is too much distance to hope to carry the air.

Fwiw, I'm dealing with 75-85 Fahrenheit (24-29c) ambient temps

Any thoughts would be appreciated!

there is a danger of pulling rain water too aside of cool air from the window/s since the fans are giving them extra push.

Yeah that is a concern for me. However I have the window screen still on so that should help.

[arielbit]

Hi guys hoping to get some feedback on my room plan:

#1 is my current plan: pull cold air in from the window and push them over rigs with fans behind each rig, then pull hot air out from the front of the rigs and use an exhaust fan in the ceiling to collect hot air and exhaust it out of the roof.  This should be sufficient cooling for about the ~105 GPUs I can fit on that shelving unit

HOWEVER! I would like to leave open the possibility of expanding in the future without having to move the exhaust fan's ceiling location. So I was wondering if #2 would work if I double my size. As you can see I'd be using fans on the ground to push the incoming air up at all the rigs but I'm unsure if that 15 ft (4.5m) is too much distance to hope to carry the air.

Fwiw, I'm dealing with 75-85 Fahrenheit (24-29c) ambient temps

Any thoughts would be appreciated!

there is a danger of pulling rain water too aside of cool air from the window/s since the fans are giving them extra push.

Yeah that is a concern for me. However I have the window screen still on so that should help.

water can easily get past the screen, they just gonna get a bit smaller..try it, sprinkle some and see the results..

considered thinking about drawing air from the ceiling?...fans are still on the windows(pushing air out of it) air will be pulled from the door and ceiling as fans in the windows exhaust hot air.

[cheet]

Hi guys hoping to get some feedback on my room plan:

#1 is my current plan: pull cold air in from the window and push them over rigs with fans behind each rig, then pull hot air out from the front of the rigs and use an exhaust fan in the ceiling to collect hot air and exhaust it out of the roof.  This should be sufficient cooling for about the ~105 GPUs I can fit on that shelving unit

HOWEVER! I would like to leave open the possibility of expanding in the future without having to move the exhaust fan's ceiling location. So I was wondering if #2 would work if I double my size. As you can see I'd be using fans on the ground to push the incoming air up at all the rigs but I'm unsure if that 15 ft (4.5m) is too much distance to hope to carry the air.

Fwiw, I'm dealing with 75-85 Fahrenheit (24-29c) ambient temps

Any thoughts would be appreciated!

there is a danger of pulling rain water too aside of cool air from the window/s since the fans are giving them extra push.

Yeah that is a concern for me. However I have the window screen still on so that should help.

water can easily get past the screen, they just gonna get a bit smaller..try it, sprinkle some and see the results..

considered thinking about drawing air from the ceiling?...fans are still on the windows(pushing air out of it) air will be pulled from the door and ceiling as fans in the windows exhaust hot air.

Hm yeah I could do that too. I didn't even consider that I always just assumed it would be best to go from the window.

The door leads to another interior room though, that's kinda hot in general. I may be able to intake air from the roof and disperse it through ducts at ground level though. And use fans on the ground to push that cool air up.

[delicopsch56]

Hi guys hoping to get some feedback on my room plan:

https://i.gyazo.com/d73e124bf0a2ce32e0198c927a095e8f.png

#1 is my current plan: pull cold air in from the window and push them over rigs with fans behind each rig, then pull hot air out from the front of the rigs and use an exhaust fan in the ceiling to collect hot air and exhaust it out of the roof.  This should be sufficient cooling for about the ~105 GPUs I can fit on that shelving unit

HOWEVER! I would like to leave open the possibility of expanding in the future without having to move the exhaust fan's ceiling location. So I was wondering if #2 would work if I double my size. As you can see I'd be using fans on the ground to push the incoming air up at all the rigs but I'm unsure if that 15 ft (4.5m) is too much distance to hope to carry the air.

Fwiw, I'm dealing with 75-85 Fahrenheit (24-29c) ambient temps

Any thoughts would be appreciated!

there is a danger of pulling rain water too aside of cool air from the window/s since the fans are giving them extra push.

Yeah that is a concern for me. However I have the window screen still on so that should help.

It's a risk, up to you to assess how small or large.  GFCI the circuit that serves the room, maybe.  Possibly just as easy as a single electrical outlet changeout, don't remember for sure.  You seem to like Home Depot, so http://www.homedepot.com/p/Leviton-20-Amp-125-Volt-AFCI-GFCI-Dual-Function-Outlet-White-AGTR2-W/300049855.  $26, and a decent industrial grade outlet has to be what, 4-5 bucks tops now, my WAG?  I definitely regret all the ones I've replaced with dollar ones now, just because of house cleaners yanking vacuum cleaner cords out the easy way.

[philipma1957]

Hi guys hoping to get some feedback on my room plan:



#1 is my current plan: pull cold air in from the window and push them over rigs with fans behind each rig, then pull hot air out from the front of the rigs and use an exhaust fan in the ceiling to collect hot air and exhaust it out of the roof.  This should be sufficient cooling for about the ~105 GPUs I can fit on that shelving unit

HOWEVER! I would like to leave open the possibility of expanding in the future without having to move the exhaust fan's ceiling location. So I was wondering if #2 would work if I double my size. As you can see I'd be using fans on the ground to push the incoming air up at all the rigs but I'm unsure if that 15 ft (4.5m) is too much distance to hope to carry the air.

Fwiw, I'm dealing with 75-85 Fahrenheit (24-29c) ambient temps

Any thoughts would be appreciated!

there is a danger of pulling rain water too aside of cool air from the window/s since the fans are giving them extra push.

Yeah that is a concern for me. However I have the window screen still on so that should help.

   pull from the window  go out the roof.


if rain is an issue.  make a   hood to block the rain.

intake fans are less important then exhaust.  and exhaust out the roof  is best as hot air rises.

[TheYankeesWin!]

Phil  did Galax get back to you about more Katana's?

[QuintLeo]

there is a danger of pulling rain water too aside of cool air from the window/s since the fans are giving them extra push.

It's a risk, up to you to assess how small or large.  GFCI the circuit that serves the room, maybe.

 DO PUT A GFCI (either a replace-the-outlet type or replace the breaker in the panel doesn't matter which) on any circuit that serves a fan in a window.

 However, if the window is on the "normally downwind" side of your home, the screen should keep any water from entering your home that way.


 Having both intake AND exhaust fans is generally redundant - IMO go all one or all the other, don't mix-and-match or you're wasting electricity for little or no return.

 Pushing or pulling air in the same direction as it's natural flow (either through heat rise or wind pass through) works better than trying to fight the natural flow.


 To Citronick:
 I like the Gigabyte 2 fan model 1070s https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125875 which are fairly often on sale for about as low as any other 1070 model but seem to clock as high as any of them.
 Their ITX 1070 model https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125893 isn't quite as fast, but works VERY nicely in the "outside" slot of my 3-card rigs for heat management on the middle card as it's only about 7" long and leaves one fan on the middle card completely clear.

[philipma1957]

The katana  stands at this second one comes on weds.

and I may get 2 more next week I did some facebook talk  with them.

[MA3A]

Here are some benchmarks on  EVGA 3x 1070 SLi'd Components used are from older system based on EVGA NFORCE 680i SLI/LGA775/DDR2 CORE2 DUO CPU WITH 6400 DDR2 RAM 8GB 80GB SATAIII HDD WINDOWS 7 HOME PREMIUM.
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1072587589508989&id=348409301926825 (sorry, had a problem with uploading pic, had post a link) There was an option to get this thing built on nforce 780i SLI but due to northbridge fan being extremely close to card surface, it was decided to go with 680i sli as it has enough space between northbridge and top pcie card, when installed.
p.s. It looks like 2x1080ti is about same as 3x1070 in performance, with price difference about 100-150$ it makes more sense to me to get 2x1080ti and SLI'em
Had built 2 PC's with ASUS 1080ti FE 11gb with 2x1080ti in each, wanted to try 3x sli 1080ti but did not have enough time, perhaps next built will try it.

[delicopsch56]

there is a danger of pulling rain water too aside of cool air from the window/s since the fans are giving them extra push.

It's a risk, up to you to assess how small or large.  GFCI the circuit that serves the room, maybe.

 DO PUT A GFCI (either a replace-the-outlet type or replace the breaker in the panel doesn't matter which) on any circuit that serves a fan in a window.

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Interesting point,  why exactly do you say that, I can think of multiple reasons that could have validity now.  I'd think you do want to be alerted to the rain somehow, if it's more than just some spitting you might want to close the window to avoid damaging the room interior or equipment, but if there's no ups on the equipment in the room it's just a kaboom, power cutout.  I wonder if there's a moisture sensor that would work if it rains in, I think those are pretty commonly available for early detection of plumbing floods now.  But then that leads to what if you're not home and can't get there quick enough?  I'm starting to think a rain cap like on a chimney, but I can't see that working for a window.  Maybe the window is just too easy an intake solution.

[bentcrypto]

Here are some benchmarks on  EVGA 3x 1070 SLi'd Components used are from older system based on EVGA NFORCE 680i SLI/LGA775/DDR2 CORE2 DUO CPU WITH 6400 DDR2 RAM 8GB 80GB SATAIII HDD WINDOWS 7 HOME PREMIUM.
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1072587589508989&id=348409301926825 (sorry, had a problem with uploading pic, had post a link) There was an option to get this thing built on nforce 780i SLI but due to northbridge fan being extremely close to card surface, it was decided to go with 680i sli as it has enough space between northbridge and top pcie card, when installed.
p.s. It looks like 2x1080ti is about same as 3x1070 in performance, with price difference about 100-150$ it makes more sense to me to get 2x1080ti and SLI'em
Had built 2 PC's with ASUS 1080ti FE 11gb with 2x1080ti in each, wanted to try 3x sli 1080ti but did not have enough time, perhaps next built will try it.

Does SLI make a difference in mining?

IE...Would two 1080TI's perform differently in SLI mode compared to non-SLI mode? (Hashing performance and power).  

PS...In my Country 2 1080ti's = $1480 and 3 1070's=$1155 so the TI's are only really worth it if space is limited.

[philipma1957]

Here are some benchmarks on  EVGA 3x 1070 SLi'd Components used are from older system based on EVGA NFORCE 680i SLI/LGA775/DDR2 CORE2 DUO CPU WITH 6400 DDR2 RAM 8GB 80GB SATAIII HDD WINDOWS 7 HOME PREMIUM.
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1072587589508989&id=348409301926825 (sorry, had a problem with uploading pic, had post a link) There was an option to get this thing built on nforce 780i SLI but due to northbridge fan being extremely close to card surface, it was decided to go with 680i sli as it has enough space between northbridge and top pcie card, when installed.
p.s. It looks like 2x1080ti is about same as 3x1070 in performance, with price difference about 100-150$ it makes more sense to me to get 2x1080ti and SLI'em
Had built 2 PC's with ASUS 1080ti FE 11gb with 2x1080ti in each, wanted to try 3x sli 1080ti but did not have enough time, perhaps next built will try it.

Does SLI make a difference in mining?

IE...Would two 1080TI's perform differently in SLI mode compared to non-SLI mode? (Hashing performance and power).  

PS...In my Country 2 1080ti's = $1480 and 3 1070's=$1155 so the TI's are only really worth it if space is limited.

SLI for mining = no affect not important.

If space is not an issue  1070's may be better

[MA3A]

They guy plans on playing games when PC is not mining and mine in all other time,  so SLI should do good, other than that i did not see any difference in SLI/NO SLI, exxcept on windows 10, when OS wants cards to be SLI'd, but it does not insist on it, it just says "You card performance is not optimal, please connect sli bridge for optimal performance" thats about it.

[MA3A]

i have another question - does it make any difference, in relation to nicehash, to mine directly without any registration vs registration and sell hashpower? I mean whats more profitable from client stand point? (hashing is  about 6x1080ti plus some 7970's) Also, is mining via nicehash "uniminer" interface vs CMD line directly - any profit differences?

[philipma1957]

i have another question - does it make any difference, in relation to nicehash, to mine directly without any registration vs registration and sell hashpower? I mean whats more profitable from client stand point? (hashing is  about 6x1080ti plus some 7970's) Also, is mining via nicehash "uniminer" interface vs CMD line directly - any profit differences?

if you want to hide yourself.  you could download a wallet get a btc addy.

sell your hash send the coin to the addy you made.  And until you spent the coin no one would know you owned it.

[JaredKaragen]

i have another question - does it make any difference, in relation to nicehash, to mine directly without any registration vs registration and sell hashpower? I mean whats more profitable from client stand point? (hashing is  about 6x1080ti plus some 7970's) Also, is mining via nicehash "uniminer" interface vs CMD line directly - any profit differences?

if you want to hide yourself.  you could download a wallet get a btc addy.

sell your hash send the coin to the addy you made.  And until you spent the coin no one would know you owned it.

Correct.   The only link to you, is posting the address online, or the primary way is exchanging to fiat.

[MA3A]

if you want to hide yourself.  you could download a wallet get a btc addy.

- i understand this part.
question was geared towards more of a _profit_difference_ in comparison to "uniminer" software directly (auto/pilot mode with only added addy) vs registering on site and selling hash power vs no registration, but using command line interface via claymoore/ccminer/etc directly, attached to either nicehash pool, or other pools.
 I saw a screenshot of a Philipma1957 where Nicehash sell power stats are shown and there was like only 1-2 protocols/coins mined with huge accent on ETH... with impressive daily stats...  so, after seeing that, a question came to my mind - should i do same(sell hashpower) vs just mine it via Nicehash "universal miner" I wont remember where i saw that screenshot, been through too many posts since that...

p.s. my stats look like quarters aka they split by about 25% on each protocol - lbry/daggerhashimoto/equihash/lyra2rev2 this is how nicehash uniminer switching between them for better profitability in autopilot mode

what are tickers for those coins?
lbry - LBC
Daggerhashimoto - ETH (not ETC right?)
equihash - ZEC (?)
lyra2rev2 -

is DASH any good for mining right now?

trying to figure out what wallet will be best to hold all, as of right now everything goes to BTC addy and perhaps i should consider mining exact coins directly...

[vg54dett]

Hi guys, anybody experiencing trouble with windows and error 43 in device manager today ?


I got all my cards with error 43 yesterday in a windows 10 rigs, and didn't manage to fix it after amd uninstall and driver reinstall.
This rigs worked well since 10 days.
Todays another windows 10 rigs is doing the same.

I think maybe this is related to a windows update or something
I might be not the only one ?

EDIT : a deep deep multiple uninstall of drivers finally fixed the trouble , but weird this happened in the same time on my two windows 10 rigs.

[vapourminer]

I think maybe this is related to a windows update or something


EDIT : a deep deep multiple uninstall of drivers finally fixed the trouble , but weird this happened in the same time on my two windows 10 rigs.

if you go to the win10 update settings page you can pull a list of the dates win10 installed updates, see if they correspond to the dates you had the problems.

this is one reason why i mine on win7. i tell it to monitor for but not install updates till i can review them.