Fourth alt coin thread last three got oversized.

[bdiddle]

Phil have you mined with vanilla 1080's?

Getting used or refurb 1070's around $310 or refurb 1080's for $450....

Or 1080 Ti's for $650+

I already have 2x 1070's and 2x 1080ti's on the way.


The Ti's seems 2x as fast and 2x as expensive compared to the 1070, but not sure how the 1080 compares.

[philipma1957]

I had 1 1080. It was a zotac mini it was a good card.

It was the first Nvidia I mined with. I used my April 3rd enucks to. Buy it.

It did 500 sols for Zec and about 700 for skein.

I would consider using it with a good price.

[citronick]

One of the vega cards amd is coming out with has 1tb of cache on the gpu lol
They had 4 of those cards  rendering 4K video live. It was crazy!!
And if anyone knows anything about rendering video it is awesome
They also had one playing doom and max everything at 60fps
So the new amd vegas are like 1080ti's ATM it could change

1tb cache ? some form of vram HBM v2 perhaps -- that would speed up ZEC mining tremendously

1080ti is only at 11gb vram gddr5... the vega could be a game changer but at what price?

i hope vega comes out and pushes 1080ti down below 500$.... wishful thinking...

I think AMD and NVIDIA will learn to tango and waltz together and leverage the mining scene

They canned hbm and went cache instead
They said it's like ssd cache.
No prices as of right now.
Probably won't know until preorders go out.
But they changed how the gpu processes things like they did with the ryzen CPU

interesting...... this is a killer blow to the memory guys too.

looking forward to test drive vega soon

[LoneRangir]

One of the vega cards amd is coming out with has 1tb of cache on the gpu lol
They had 4 of those cards  rendering 4K video live. It was crazy!!
And if anyone knows anything about rendering video it is awesome
They also had one playing doom and max everything at 60fps
So the new amd vegas are like 1080ti's ATM it could change

1tb cache ? some form of vram HBM v2 perhaps -- that would speed up ZEC mining tremendously

1080ti is only at 11gb vram gddr5... the vega could be a game changer but at what price?

i hope vega comes out and pushes 1080ti down below 500$.... wishful thinking...

I think AMD and NVIDIA will learn to tango and waltz together and leverage the mining scene

They canned hbm and went cache instead
They said it's like ssd cache.
No prices as of right now.
Probably won't know until preorders go out.
But they changed how the gpu processes things like they did with the ryzen CPU

interesting...... this is a killer blow to the memory guys too.

looking forward to test drive vega soon

The cards will have both HBM2 and an onboard SSD NVMe controller to access up to 1TB of local storage.  The controller does not have to go to the "southbridge" via PCIe in order to get to mass storage.  

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10518/amd-announces-radeon-pro-ssg-fiji-with-m2-ssds-onboard

[m0bilitee]

One of the vega cards amd is coming out with has 1tb of cache on the gpu lol
They had 4 of those cards  rendering 4K video live. It was crazy!!
And if anyone knows anything about rendering video it is awesome
They also had one playing doom and max everything at 60fps
So the new amd vegas are like 1080ti's ATM it could change

1tb cache ? some form of vram HBM v2 perhaps -- that would speed up ZEC mining tremendously

1080ti is only at 11gb vram gddr5... the vega could be a game changer but at what price?

i hope vega comes out and pushes 1080ti down below 500$.... wishful thinking...

I think AMD and NVIDIA will learn to tango and waltz together and leverage the mining scene

They canned hbm and went cache instead
They said it's like ssd cache.
No prices as of right now.
Probably won't know until preorders go out.
But they changed how the gpu processes things like they did with the ryzen CPU

interesting...... this is a killer blow to the memory guys too.

looking forward to test drive vega soon

The card they showed had dual M.2 slots in it each supporting 512Gig SSDs.  This lets them bypass the PCIE bus to talk to memory for running things like crazy graphics filters.   I don't see this being of much use to miners at this point, just my $0.02.

[philipma1957]

One of the vega cards amd is coming out with has 1tb of cache on the gpu lol
They had 4 of those cards  rendering 4K video live. It was crazy!!
And if anyone knows anything about rendering video it is awesome
They also had one playing doom and max everything at 60fps
So the new amd vegas are like 1080ti's ATM it could change

1tb cache ? some form of vram HBM v2 perhaps -- that would speed up ZEC mining tremendously

1080ti is only at 11gb vram gddr5... the vega could be a game changer but at what price?

i hope vega comes out and pushes 1080ti down below 500$.... wishful thinking...

I think AMD and NVIDIA will learn to tango and waltz together and leverage the mining scene

They canned hbm and went cache instead
They said it's like ssd cache.
No prices as of right now.
Probably won't know until preorders go out.
But they changed how the gpu processes things like they did with the ryzen CPU

interesting...... this is a killer blow to the memory guys too.

looking forward to test drive vega soon

Yep and these are proof of concept so I think they are not what we will see for mining.

The card they showed had dual M.2 slots in it each supporting 512Gig SSDs.  This lets them bypass the PCIE bus to talk to memory for running things like crazy graphics filters.   I don't see this being of much use to miners at this point, just my $0.02.

[citronick]

Well i just completed a 24hr test run on Yiimp mining DGB directly....
Both Cards are Identical on watercooling....

GP0 mining Yiimp 13minutes pass 24hrs start time mined 259.56636176 DGB $16.16 USD directly to Poloniex
GP1 mining Zpool 13minutes pass 24hrs start time mined 0.00423501 BTC $11.90 USD directly to Coinbase

Both cards are running the same settings....now to find out how much it is to shift the DGB into BTC, then transfer it to my coinbase account, since when i mine ZPool i mine it directly to that wallet. if these fees are less than the difference between $16.16 and $11.90.... it may be more profitable to mine it directly

Zpool needs wait for coin maturity and queue them to exchange to sell in exchange for BTC... This whole process may cause unfavourable real time BTC end value. On top of that zpool needs to deduct pool fees.

This issue above has been debated aggressively in zpool bitcointalk thread.

[cvsea]

Well i just completed a 24hr test run on Yiimp mining DGB directly....
Both Cards are Identical on watercooling....

GP0 mining Yiimp 13minutes pass 24hrs start time mined 259.56636176 DGB $16.16 USD directly to Poloniex
GP1 mining Zpool 13minutes pass 24hrs start time mined 0.00423501 BTC $11.90 USD directly to Coinbase

Both cards are running the same settings....now to find out how much it is to shift the DGB into BTC, then transfer it to my coinbase account, since when i mine ZPool i mine it directly to that wallet. if these fees are less than the difference between $16.16 and $11.90.... it may be more profitable to mine it directly

Poloniex charges:
- 0.15% exchange fee (just set a higher price for DGB, the order should get filled within a few hours)
- transfer fee BTC to Coinbase - 10000 satoshi ~ $0.28 as of now

Made about $160 in BTC in the past 11 days with one 1080ti.
If you have the time, it's worth it to do things this way.

[xleejohnx]

One of the vega cards amd is coming out with has 1tb of cache on the gpu lol
They had 4 of those cards  rendering 4K video live. It was crazy!!
And if anyone knows anything about rendering video it is awesome
They also had one playing doom and max everything at 60fps
So the new amd vegas are like 1080ti's ATM it could change

1tb cache ? some form of vram HBM v2 perhaps -- that would speed up ZEC mining tremendously

1080ti is only at 11gb vram gddr5... the vega could be a game changer but at what price?

i hope vega comes out and pushes 1080ti down below 500$.... wishful thinking...

I think AMD and NVIDIA will learn to tango and waltz together and leverage the mining scene

They canned hbm and went cache instead
They said it's like ssd cache.
No prices as of right now.
Probably won't know until preorders go out.
But they changed how the gpu processes things like they did with the ryzen CPU

interesting...... this is a killer blow to the memory guys too.

looking forward to test drive vega soon

The cards will have both HBM2 and an onboard SSD NVMe controller to access up to 1TB of local storage.  The controller does not have to go to the "southbridge" via PCIe in order to get to mass storage.  

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10518/amd-announces-radeon-pro-ssg-fiji-with-m2-ssds-onboard

June 5 techs review of the press release said nothing about hbm or hbm2 being on the cards
I can give links to all top hardware YouTube reviewers if needed

[jimmykl]

One of the vega cards amd is coming out with has 1tb of cache on the gpu lol
They had 4 of those cards  rendering 4K video live. It was crazy!!
And if anyone knows anything about rendering video it is awesome
They also had one playing doom and max everything at 60fps
So the new amd vegas are like 1080ti's ATM it could change

1tb cache ? some form of vram HBM v2 perhaps -- that would speed up ZEC mining tremendously

1080ti is only at 11gb vram gddr5... the vega could be a game changer but at what price?

i hope vega comes out and pushes 1080ti down below 500$.... wishful thinking...

I think AMD and NVIDIA will learn to tango and waltz together and leverage the mining scene

They canned hbm and went cache instead
They said it's like ssd cache.
No prices as of right now.
Probably won't know until preorders go out.
But they changed how the gpu processes things like they did with the ryzen CPU

interesting...... this is a killer blow to the memory guys too.

looking forward to test drive vega soon

The cards will have both HBM2 and an onboard SSD NVMe controller to access up to 1TB of local storage.  The controller does not have to go to the "southbridge" via PCIe in order to get to mass storage.  

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10518/amd-announces-radeon-pro-ssg-fiji-with-m2-ssds-onboard

June 5 techs review of the press release said nothing about hbm or hbm2 being on the cards
I can give links to all top hardware YouTube reviewers if needed

From the maker:
"At our product’s core is Vega’s disruptive High Bandwidth Cache Controller, the cornerstone of the world’s most advanced GPU memory architecture. Combined with HBM2, Radeon Vega Frontier Edition helps expands the capacity of traditional GPU memory to 256TB, allowing users to tackle massive datasets with ease."
– http://pro.radeon.com/en-us/vega-frontier-edition/

[philipma1957]

Well i just completed a 24hr test run on Yiimp mining DGB directly....
Both Cards are Identical on watercooling....

GP0 mining Yiimp 13minutes pass 24hrs start time mined 259.56636176 DGB $16.16 USD directly to Poloniex
GP1 mining Zpool 13minutes pass 24hrs start time mined 0.00423501 BTC $11.90 USD directly to Coinbase

Both cards are running the same settings....now to find out how much it is to shift the DGB into BTC, then transfer it to my coinbase account, since when i mine ZPool i mine it directly to that wallet. if these fees are less than the difference between $16.16 and $11.90.... it may be more profitable to mine it directly

Excellent test. Now it would be very interesting to see Yiimp vs miningpoolhub...both mining DGB directly.

My 1080ti is the Evga model. I got it up to 6.2 hash per watt but when I woke up the miner was shut down so I have taken it back to 6.

Not an excellent test . to be fair  test should be a week at least.

last 24 hours  I mined 0.0469089  my hashrate was 8.6 to 9.0   about 10 1080ti's  so  I did  0.00469089  that is $13.31 a day per 1080ti.

Also  one must understand  that mining the coin directly  can allow  cherry picking of exchange rate.  that is the bigiest advantage of mining a coin directly.  Of course  if you hold coins  beyond   a day   you increase  the chance of gain or loss .

my mining on zpool  and I moved and varied my hashrate since I really was not testing.

I am deleting both posts but quoting them as they are not accurate testing and are presented as such.  BTW my numbers were not done as testing, but I will set up a more correct method  for zpool.

All info from the other two posts are here.

[TheYankeesWin!]

How will you do a fair test?

[philipma1957]

How will you do a fair test?

Easy

this is 3 1070 ti's  running at about 1375 on my monitor screen

[Storx]

Do any of yall remote into your computer on windows?
I am asking because all the setups i have now i can easily use a monitor and keyboard on, but once you get past a few it is going to get annoying to perform actions on a rig...
I just bought a Dell Workstation yesterday after a recommendation from someone who runs 40+ of them on garage shelving suspending the GPU's above the case with it layed on its side, $166 for a dual xeon workstation with 5 PCIe slots and 875watt proprietary PSU with Windows 10 PRO and 1YR warranty on parts and labor, reason i mentioned proprietary is because it has PEG connections on the PSU i was told and i would need adapters from PEG to ATX PCIe to power GPU's or i might even just run a 2nd PSU to make more simplified... The person i was told about this doesnt actually use the windows 10 built into the workstation, he uses bootable EthOS thumbdrives to run his rigs, but he has AMD and from what i understand ethOS does not support Nvidia

EthOS he linked me if your curious https://gpushack.com/products/ethos-16gb-usb-3-0

[citronick]

http://cryptomining-blog.com/8784-seems-like-nvidia-is-making-a-video-card-especially-for-mining/

Looks like NVIDIA is ready to pounce on the mining world.... GTX-1060 Mining Edition?

"....8x of these GPUs: 200 MHS for ETH, 2500 Sol/s for ZEC, 4400 H/s for XMR...."

[LoneRangir]

http://cryptomining-blog.com/8784-seems-like-nvidia-is-making-a-video-card-especially-for-mining/

Looks like NVIDIA is ready to pounce on the mining world.... GTX-1060 Mining Edition?

"....8x of these GPUs: 200 MHS for ETH, 2500 Sol/s for ZEC, 4400 H/s for XMR...."

Similar to the panda concept

[Storx]

http://cryptomining-blog.com/8784-seems-like-nvidia-is-making-a-video-card-especially-for-mining/

Looks like NVIDIA is ready to pounce on the mining world.... GTX-1060 Mining Edition?

"....8x of these GPUs: 200 MHS for ETH, 2500 Sol/s for ZEC, 4400 H/s for XMR...."

I honestly dont see this being a viable option really.. it has blower style cooling, which from my readings are the worst card designs to mine with due to them naturally running hotter, and you can pickup a EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB now over on newegg for $207.98 after rebate.. so if its essentially mining at the same rates, why take a 3 month warranty for roughly the same price....also what is the resell value gonna be on that card in the future....

[citronick]

Do any of yall remote into your computer on windows?
I am asking because all the setups i have now i can easily use a monitor and keyboard on, but once you get past a few it is going to get annoying to perform actions on a rig...
I just bought a Dell Workstation yesterday after a recommendation from someone who runs 40+ of them on garage shelving suspending the GPU's above the case with it layed on its side, $166 for a dual xeon workstation with 5 PCIe slots and 875watt proprietary PSU with Windows 10 PRO and 1YR warranty on parts and labor, reason i mentioned proprietary is because it has PEG connections on the PSU i was told and i would need adapters from PEG to ATX PCIe to power GPU's or i might even just run a 2nd PSU to make more simplified... The person i was told about this doesnt actually use the windows 10 built into the workstation, he uses bootable EthOS thumbdrives to run his rigs, but he has AMD and from what i understand ethOS does not support Nvidia

EthOS he linked me if your curious https://gpushack.com/products/ethos-16gb-usb-3-0

I use this app called mobaxterm on Windows to vnc and ssh into my windows, nvoc and smos rigs.

The mobaxterm app is installed on a old Lenovo Pentium Duo PC 8gb ram in my warehouse.

From home, I Teamviewer into this machine from my iMac and basically access all my rigs in the warehouse.

All automatic power cycle off/on/resetting functions are controlled by Tytanick's SRRv1 and soon SRRv2.

I use Windows and ethOS for my ETH rigs in the past, but now standardized on smOS Linux to simplify the entire mining operations for AMD rigs.

My NVIDIA rigs are mixed Windows and nvOC Linux.

I use TightVNC to manage the Windows rigs and SSH for smOS and nvOC if I am physically in the warehouse.

-- the Teamviewer session will be like the master console to access VNC and SSH launched from mobaxterm if I do remote from home.

http://cryptomining-blog.com/8784-seems-like-nvidia-is-making-a-video-card-especially-for-mining/

Looks like NVIDIA is ready to pounce on the mining world.... GTX-1060 Mining Edition?

"....8x of these GPUs: 200 MHS for ETH, 2500 Sol/s for ZEC, 4400 H/s for XMR...."

I honestly dont see this being a viable option really.. it has blower style cooling, which from my readings are the worst card designs to mine with due to them naturally running hotter, and you can pickup a EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB now over on newegg for $207.98 after rebate.. so if its essentially mining at the same rates, why take a 3 month warranty for roughly the same price....also what is the resell value gonna be on that card in the future....

Actually the blower/reference style design is better if you have small clearance in between cards.

Also the blower pushes air frontward and this is excellent for directing the hot air into the hot aisles -- usually this design is better for large farms.

For me, I will standardize on 1080ti and 1070, on a 5-6 x GPU rig format and manage the power requirements.

This 7-8 x GPU concept is nice to fully leverage density but the fact remains.... you need bigger PSU, better mobo, more riser BS, and probably have to babysit these rigs constantly to stabilize them.

I have learnt my lesson in my existing ETH farms, 480s, 470s, 6xGPU standard EVGA-1300w PSU, and more recently 1200w platinum server-psu/pico/bb setup. Running so stable and cool, I don't even have to worry about them too much, especially with SRR system in place -- its as good as lights-out mining operation.

[VoskCoin]

sorry been slammed with work need to catchup on thread,

What's the status on R&D with the gigabyte cards? going to put together my two rigs this weekend if the my msi aero even get delivered >:l i have the gb cards at least but was planning on putting them in the gaming rig I am trying to build

NOTE ebay bucks is back @ 8% thanks again to phil for putting me onto that idea for these builds lol

[Storx]

Do any of yall remote into your computer on windows?
I am asking because all the setups i have now i can easily use a monitor and keyboard on, but once you get past a few it is going to get annoying to perform actions on a rig...
I just bought a Dell Workstation yesterday after a recommendation from someone who runs 40+ of them on garage shelving suspending the GPU's above the case with it layed on its side, $166 for a dual xeon workstation with 5 PCIe slots and 875watt proprietary PSU with Windows 10 PRO and 1YR warranty on parts and labor, reason i mentioned proprietary is because it has PEG connections on the PSU i was told and i would need adapters from PEG to ATX PCIe to power GPU's or i might even just run a 2nd PSU to make more simplified... The person i was told about this doesnt actually use the windows 10 built into the workstation, he uses bootable EthOS thumbdrives to run his rigs, but he has AMD and from what i understand ethOS does not support Nvidia

EthOS he linked me if your curious https://gpushack.com/products/ethos-16gb-usb-3-0

I use this app called mobaxterm on Windows to vnc and ssh into my windows, nvoc and smos rigs.

The mobaxterm app is installed on a old Lenovo Pentium Duo PC 8gb ram in my warehouse.

From home, I Teamviewer into this machine from my iMac and basically access all my rigs in the warehouse.

All automatic power cycle off/on/resetting functions are controlled by Tytanick's SRRv1 and soon SRRv2.

I use Windows and ethOS for my ETH rigs in the past, but now standardized on smOS Linux to simplify the entire mining operations for AMD rigs.

My NVIDIA rigs are mixed Windows and nvOC Linux.

I use TightVNC to manage the Windows rigs and SSH for smOS and nvOC if I am physically in the warehouse.

-- the Teamviewer session will be like the master console to access VNC and SSH launched from mobaxterm if I do remote from home.

http://cryptomining-blog.com/8784-seems-like-nvidia-is-making-a-video-card-especially-for-mining/

Looks like NVIDIA is ready to pounce on the mining world.... GTX-1060 Mining Edition?

"....8x of these GPUs: 200 MHS for ETH, 2500 Sol/s for ZEC, 4400 H/s for XMR...."

I honestly dont see this being a viable option really.. it has blower style cooling, which from my readings are the worst card designs to mine with due to them naturally running hotter, and you can pickup a EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB now over on newegg for $207.98 after rebate.. so if its essentially mining at the same rates, why take a 3 month warranty for roughly the same price....also what is the resell value gonna be on that card in the future....

Actually the blower/reference style design is better if you have small clearance in between cards.

Also the blower pushes air frontward and this is excellent for directing the hot air into the hot aisles -- usually this design is better for large farms.

For me, I will standardize on 1080ti and 1070, on a 5-6 x GPU rig format and manage the power requirements.

This 7-8 x GPU concept is nice to fully leverage density but the fact remains.... you need bigger PSU, better mobo, more riser BS, and probably have to babysit these rigs constantly to stabilize them.

I have learnt my lesson in my existing ETH farms, 480s, 470s, 6xGPU standard EVGA-1300w PSU, and more recently 1200w platinum server-psu/pico/bb setup. Running so stable and cool, I don't even have to worry about them too much, especially with SRR system in place -- its as good as lights-out mining operation.

I will have to do some more research on this.. from my understanding Alexis miner is only a windows thing.. so im kinda stuck on windows for now.. thus the question in regards to windows...

In regards to TeamViewer, i know very little about it, but i know what it is really.. couldn't you just team view directly to the mining rig? i know you have to know the number and password to connect, but do they expire if you just leave it open?

Also been thinking about expanding into a small warehouse myself about 35 mins from me.. some pretty affordable rates on them.. i currently have 6 x 1080ti's (sadly 2 are not mining due to issues with risers not working for me), but soon this will be corrected as new equipment will arrive over the next few days.. if i go off my average of $12.80/day per card since ive been on skein.. thats plenty to cover the rent on a warehouse to not have to worry about the issues of it overloading my condo power....