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July 30, 2023, 03:07:56 PM
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There is a new coming from odoi. Fulham is now sending an offer for odoi's transfer. Bayern Munich made high bids for Callum Hudson-Odoi, but Chelsea refused to let him go. Now, he is not worth much. Chelsea coached by so many managers but none from them have ever given their trust to the odoi.
It's very painful to know his history in the chelsea. He rarely being trusted as a main player in the club. He was always on the bench and seeing his fellow played for chelsea. It's time for him to leave from chelsea even though his price is very small at this moment.

Joining fulham probably a good thing that can be choosen by him. Odoi shall try to catch his future in the different club. It's very bad to see him stay longer in chelsea. His era already passed.
Odoi must think about his future.

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Once the jewel of the club's academy, the winger's career at Stamford Bridge is about to come to a sad end

It's almost unimaginable now that a club of Bayern Munich's stature would be interested in forgotten Chelsea man Callum Hudson-Odoi, but that was the reality in 2019. A two-year pursuit would culminate in a rejected loan offer that included a whopping £70 million ($90m) obligation to buy, with the Blues steadfast in their resolve to hold on to one of the jewels of their academy.

Two-and-a-half years on, and that resolve has disintegrated - to the extent that Chelsea are negotiating the 22-year-old's exit for less than £10m. Their west London neighbours Fulham have lodged a £4m ($5.1m) bid, although they will hold out for perhaps double that figure.
https://www.goal.com/en/lists/callum-hudson-odoi-chelsea-bayern-munich-bids-joining-fulham/blt3bfacfb6aafa21b2#csa0c792afbe02b137
Callum Hudson-Odoi was loaned to Leverkusen last season and i have to says his performance wasn't too impressive that's why Leverkusen didn't permanent him and Callum Hudson-Odoi is the player from Chelsea academy and he got promote since 2020 to senior team but indeed he was a bit unlucky because since Tuchel era until Potters he was unable to earn trust from those managers and at Leverkusen too last season Xabi Alonso didn't always putting him at Leverkusen starting lineup and Hudson-Odoi even always be played as substitution player

However Fulham so far the most serious team who want him but indeed Chelsea want not less than 8 millions but Fulham only dare to bid 4 millions but the negotiation still on progress and probably Fulham are willing to raised their bid and Hudson-Odoi don't want to staying at Chelsea anymore especially after Mauricio Pochettino will not include him in his plans for next season so Hudson-Odoi hopes he can moved permanent from Chelsea

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July 30, 2023, 03:13:31 PM
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No idea why Maguire would not be sold, he is a net negative for the club and has been for a while and he is not even playing that good during the training sessions neither, dude is just not good. If someone offers 20 million, you take it and you accept that as a profit if you can.

Because, even 20 million is a big shocker because I do not think that he worths that much, I would send him directly to championship level team, or worst case I would send him to a relegation fighting team. He used to be at least a bit decent, but so far, it is not just a single bad season, he has been bad for like 3 seasons in a row. Them keeping him makes no sense, at least sell him and make some profit from it if you possibly could and pay for some stuff.
It's true that it doesn't make sense to see Man United management reject West Ham offer and set a price of 40 million poundsterling for Maguire. I think very few clubs dare to offer Maguire 40 million, because his playing statistics are not good. It is possible that one of the best options now for Maguire is to move away from Old Trafford and look for another club on loan.

In a situation like this, Maguire could lose his place in the England national team at the Euro 2024. I think in order to maintain his performance he has to leave United immediately, even with a scenario as a loan player.

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July 30, 2023, 03:16:33 PM
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Chelsea are said to be plotting an audacious bid to sign Real Madrid star Federico Valverde in the summer transfer window. Mauricio Pochettino wants to sign a new midfielder with talks to sign Moises Caicedo proving unsuccessful so far.

Brighton have rejected four approaches from the Blues for their Ecuadorian midfielder - with the Seagulls valuing Caicedo at £100million. Chelsea are now considering alternative options in the transfer market as Pochettino looks to have his squad finalised ahead of the Blues' Premier League season opener against Liverpool in three weeks. However, Pochettino will want to have the bulk of his business completed in time for the clash against Jurgen Klopp's side at Stamford Bridge. Valverde has now emerged as a potential option for the Blues - who are said to be planning a £112million move for the Uruguay international.
https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/transfer-news/real-madrid-valverde-transfer-chelsea-27423611

Impressive. Chelsea sees valverde as an alternative for caicedo which is a very very good choice. In my opinion if valverde gonna be a great player for the blues rather than caicedo. Chelsea was not stupid enough by wasting 100 millions for a player which never had great achievement in his life.
Bayern is too greedy to always increasing caicedo's price even higher than before. It's time for chelsea to looking for alternative player for the club. Valverde is the great choice by chelsea. His contribution to the real madrid was a lot.
Recruiting a player from real madrid is far better rather than brighton. I do agree if chelsea gonna spend a lot of money for valverde rather than caicedo.
Valverde was still on his golden age which was around 25 years old. No choice for chelsea to buy caicedo for 100m. Caicedo is better option than caicedo.

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July 30, 2023, 03:25:36 PM
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News from the Mirror and Twitter that Liverpool and PSG opened talks about Kylian Mbappe, it's about his loan status for 1 season after an offer from Al-Hilal rejected by Mbappe.

Is this a solution for PSG to earn money? There is no mention of how the total price will be installed if it is true that the loan status to Liverpool occurs, this seems to be still in the discussion stage and can happen or not.
It is already certain that Mbappe next season will be at Real Madrid on a free transfer.

I wonder who the initiator of these negotiations (if they really take place)? PSG's interest is understandable - they are trying to minimize the losses from the fact that Mbappe remains on their balance sheet. I don’t understand what Mbappe’s interest in this deal could be and I don’t understand what interesting things Liverpool can offer to interest Mbappe.
This loan deal for one year serves two purposes, It will bring in cash for psg, also allowing the 24-year-old player to complete his dream move to Real Madrid next year.
It's simple that Mbappe has no interest in this deal and will firmly reject it. His sole focus is on moving to Real Madrid once his time at psg comes to an end.
So, these types of news articles regarding Mbappe may be designed solely click bait and not trust-worthy, in this case not to take this seriously.

If this turns out to be true, I don't know what's going on anymore in the soccer world. There is no single reason why Mbappe should go to Liverpool now as a loan player. When he is to choose between the offer from Al-Hilal and the offer from Real Madrid, the one makes him the richest soccer player in the world and the other makes his dream come true and gives him the chance to win the title of the best soccer player in the world.

Liverpool isn't even playing in the Champions League! I am 99.99% sure that this news can't be right. Financially, it makes no sense and in terms of his ambitions, it again makes no sense.

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July 30, 2023, 03:32:03 PM
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I would say although they were fortunate, it's still a risky deal as Hojlund is quite young and we don't know for certain how quickly he will adjust to Premier League. So given this it is a risky gamble according to me as it can be turn out to be good and also bad later on - we don't know yet for certain. I would say signing Kane would have been much better but it seems United has put their eggs in the basket now so there is no turning back.

Hope United gets the performance from him as they hope to get. All eyes will be on him and he has to perform facing this pressure.
Actually, it is quite difficult to adapt to the Premier League because it will be very tight, and for me only Haaland was successful in the first season as a scorer a lot and also being a player who is feared by opponents, I still hope Hojlund can do the same as Haaland even though you say this there is a risk of him being added At still young, his flight hours are still not many, but Erik Ten Hag already knows Hojlund's potential as a striker who is wanted.

About Kane it was still very difficult to keep moving to a Premier League club, now only strongly linked to Bayern Munich, not knowing the extent of their negotiations it seemed still difficult for Spurs to sell him, here it was much better Erik Ten Hag moved quickly with his search despite his expensive price of 75m EUR.

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July 30, 2023, 03:46:34 PM
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James Rodriguez transferred to Sao Paulo. I thought he was older, he was only 32. His career has been on the decline since he left Everton for Al Rayyan in 2021. He was transferred to the Premier League while playing for Real Madrid, he always played in bad clubs after Everton. He last played for Olympiakos in Greece. He stayed only one season there. I don't know why he changes teams every season and can't hold on to the clubs he goes to. He was once legendary, but now he doesn't seem to be performing as expected. In every transfer period, the possibility of him coming to the Turkish league was talked about, we didn't hear such news this season.

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July 30, 2023, 04:01:13 PM
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It's true that it doesn't make sense to see Man United management reject West Ham offer and set a price of 40 million poundsterling for Maguire. I think very few clubs dare to offer Maguire 40 million, because his playing statistics are not good. It is possible that one of the best options now for Maguire is to move away from Old Trafford and look for another club on loan.

In a situation like this, Maguire could lose his place in the England national team at the Euro 2024. I think in order to maintain his performance he has to leave United immediately, even with a scenario as a loan player.
Actually, West Ham United bid offering 20 million euro due not any teams yet interested for signing Harry Maguire, he hasn't special performance with Manchester United last season and most placed in the bench. Realistic with West Ham United bid offer for signing Harry Maguire, not in the scheme under Erik ten Hag and United can get fresh fund for signing new player. Option loan can't give profitable for Manchester United because not get fees transfer, I don't think United agree for loan Maguire to West Ham United or other teams can't give profitable, its right sell Maguire in this time transfer if not in scheme for next season.

Dilemma for Harry Maguire, stay with Manchester United and not get regular position will make him loss chance to participants with England national team for Euro 2024.

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July 30, 2023, 04:05:40 PM
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Spending a whooping amount of Rasmus Hojlund who barely 20 years is a bad idea. He's a youngster and Atalanta valued him to be very expensive, that's just the terrible idea between these Seria A clubs. They ways offered players at hugh sum because these players are hyped. Manchester united is ready to pay €85million for the Denmark international, the deal slightly to be completed. Erik Ten Hag is ready to bring in the new striker, he's good and knows basically how to position in front of goal, signing such a long-term contract is beneficial for the red devils. 

Manchester United are very keen on sealing this deal after reaching an agreement with Atalanta for Rasmus Hojlund on a five year deal until 2028 with options to extend until 2029. Manchester will be happy to get their target signed and ready before the season kicksoff but I really feel the price tag for him is much, I expected something between 45 to 55 million but in terms of player quality and age I think it’s a good signing for Manchester United.

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July 30, 2023, 04:16:01 PM
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James Rodriguez transferred to Sao Paulo. I thought he was older, he was only 32. His career has been on the decline since he left Everton for Al Rayyan in 2021. He was transferred to the Premier League while playing for Real Madrid, he always played in bad clubs after Everton. He last played for Olympiakos in Greece. He stayed only one season there. I don't know why he changes teams every season and can't hold on to the clubs he goes to. He was once legendary, but now he doesn't seem to be performing as expected. In every transfer period, the possibility of him coming to the Turkish league was talked about, we didn't hear such news this season.

We hear the same names every season in the Turkish press. James Rodriguez was one of them. I think this is a game of managers. I think they cooperated with the press to market the football players who cannot play in the elite clubs of Europe to our clubs. On the other hand, I think James Rodriguez has always had an unstable performance. His goal against Uruguay in the 2014 World Cup was fantastic. Then he transferred to Real Madrid. But his performance there fell short of expectations. And finally, as expected, he transferred to many football teams like a traveller. I'm pretty sure James Rodriguez made a lot of money. Cheesy

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July 30, 2023, 04:30:49 PM
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I've already said that the bid for Harry Maguire is more business-oriented and I'm not really interested in continuing to discuss why Manchester United don't want to let Maguire go because we're in the midst of welcoming our target which is a sticker and that will be between Manchester United and Rasmus Hojlund.

Hojlund himself personally really wanted to join and strengthen Manchester United but was held back due to the agreement with Atalanta who wanted a higher price than Manchester United offered and within 16 hours ago via Romano's twitter, we got the news that an agreement with Atalanta has been made so this is would be great news for us as Manchester United supporters for an additional €70m.
Last season he only played 16 times at Mamchester United, a very significant decrease in playing opportunities in Erik's coaching era, because the previous season he always got a lot of minutes to play with 30 appearances. I think I can already what will happen in the next season, that is, there will not be many more opportunities he will get, unless he can improve his performance so that the coach can give confidence.
He came when Manchester United was still being coached by Ole and there were not many choices of center defenders. Naturally, he gets enough playing minutes so that Gareth Southgate still puts his name into the England national team squad. Different trainers have different strategies. Erik ten Hag and Ole are two coaches who carry different strategies with the same goals. We know Erik with his firm decisions towards players, anchor Maguire, Cristiano Ronaldo is not forgiven when he violates.

Is there a desire to urge Mamchester UNited to sell him immediately? I think he should do it, because his position is very threatened.
If your question is directed at me, the answer is selling immediately to save his career. But the push for Manchester United and Erik tem Hag to sell him, I can't answer.

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July 30, 2023, 04:37:22 PM
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The price of 20 million will not be considered by Manchester United even if Maguire does not show signs of success at Manchester United.
Currently it is rumored that Manchester United set a price of 50 million for a Maguire which actually seems unlikely there is also a club that wants Cheesy
I think the possibility of selling 30-35 is still possible but for 50 million it is very difficult for a Maguire.

At the moment, actually I think Manchester United can still release this player but of course the price is reduced because if it is maintained it will only waste a lot of money with this kind of performance.

I think the 20 million euro offer for Harry Maguire is good. Because there are not many clubs that want to transfer Harry Maguire and Harry Maguire's annual salary is very high. If I remember correctly, his annual salary was around 10 million euros. Furthermore, Manchester United took the team captaincy from him. Also, Erik Ten Hag didn't give Maguire many chances to play last season. I think he won't give Maguire a lot of chances in the new season either. All things considered together, I think it would be a good choice for Manchester United to sell Harry Maguire for 20 million euros.
Yep, his salary is 9.8 million for a season and it should be 20 million offer can still be considered if Manchester United does not want him but maybe in this case they want to minimise losses because we know that the purchase of Maguire is very expensive and Manchester United does not want to release it very cheaply.
But if you look at his current performance, it is actually difficult to give a high price to Maguire whose performance in the last few seasons looks very ordinary and actually decreased greatly when he was at Manchester United.
This is like a dilemma indeed but if I can judge I think the offer price from Westham can still be considered if indeed Ten Hag does not include Maguire in his plans.

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July 30, 2023, 04:40:30 PM
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Harry Maguire was recently stripped of the Manchester United captaincy by Erik ten Hag and must now decide whether to complete the move, with West Ham interested. I believe Manchester United will complete this transfer. They no longer use him. They want to replace him with another player immediately. They are looking to see if another club will offer a higher price.
Maguire is under tremendous pressure at MU. Whenever he came out to hold the ball, boos rang out, and the Manchester United fans no longer wanted him to stay. Maguire is young, only 30 years old. He should leave this transfer window, find a new club and get back in shape.

I don't think Manchester United will let Maguire go for 20 million and complete the deal with West Ham. The price clause offered by West Ham is far below Manchester United's expectations, even though as we know Maguire is getting worse and no one wants him there anymore including Manchester United fans. Seeing these conditions I am quite concerned to see Maguire who is constantly under pressure, but there is nothing he can do other than leave because there is no place for him anymore at Manchester United. Manchester United want 35-40 million for any club interested in Maguire. If another club bids more than West Ham then Manchester United will not hesitate to sign a deal. He is 30 years old, old enough for him to be in the EPL and I think he will most likely go to the Arab League if one of the Arab clubs makes an offer, for his age most of them would choose to go there with the aim of increasing their finances. I'll still be waiting for an update on Maguire.

Letting Harry Maguire go for only 20 million is certainly a big loss for the club. But I also do not believe that there are any other better options to be honest. Because even if they get another offer for him, I don’t think any club is going to offer more than 24/25 million for him. And by not selling him, or stalling, they are probably going to run out of options. I think it will be better for Manchester United to let him go. At this 20 million and not paying him the salary that they are paying already is a win situation for Manchester United in my opinion.

It is probably true that if they get an offer from the Saudi league, they are certainly going to get more money. But is there going to be an offer from the Saudi league? At the moment they are trying to get popular players in the league. And I don’t think Harry Maguire fits the description to be honest.

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July 30, 2023, 04:41:53 PM
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Defense is one of the things that Chelsea must improve next season and they have reached an agreement with Axel Disasi from AS Monaco. It is reported that the contract duration is 5 years with a total cost of 45 million euros and this will be a new strength for Chelsea to be able to correct last season's mistakes which often lost the ball in the defensive area which made them often lose. Axel Disasi will also replace Wesley Fofana who was injured some time ago. We'll see how Chelsea will be under Pochettino's leadership later and hope they can do their best.

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July 30, 2023, 05:11:03 PM
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Letting Harry Maguire go for only 20 million is certainly a big loss for the club. But I also do not believe that there are any other better options to be honest. Because even if they get another offer for him, I don’t think any club is going to offer more than 24/25 million for him.

It is actually not a bad decision to actually let him go for that amount or even to loan him out. First of all, he has high weekly wage and it looks like he is going to stay on the bench for most of the time next season so I dont see why should we keep him in the team only for him to be a bench warmer. Aside from that, everyone knows how bad he is therefore there is no reason to actually keep him in the team

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Letting Harry Maguire go for only 20 million is certainly a big loss for the club. But I also do not believe that there are any other better options to be honest. Because even if they get another offer for him, I don’t think any club is going to offer more than 24/25 million for him.

It is actually not a bad decision to actually let him go for that amount or even to loan him out. First of all, he has high weekly wage and it looks like he is going to stay on the bench for most of the time next season so I dont see why should we keep him in the team only for him to be a bench warmer. Aside from that, everyone knows how bad he is therefore there is no reason to actually keep him in the team
Actually for me 20m is indeed a price that make a loss but with poor performance Harry Maguire deserves that price because indeed Maguire no longer worth keeping because he doesn have a good contribution to the club and making the decision to use him as a backup just wasting money to pay him.
Slightly baffled by the goal of United management but I have a feeling this is something they are up to but the terrified Harry Maguire fans are throwing tantrums again like never before.
Or maybe the United coach just trying to provide an opportunity to fix all of Maguire bad things last season but it seems like it will only be in vain.
If we look at it from my point of view, it seems that Harry Maguire himself actually want to move to another club to try his luck at another club

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July 30, 2023, 05:31:37 PM
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Letting Harry Maguire go for only 20 million is certainly a big loss for the club. But I also do not believe that there are any other better options to be honest. Because even if they get another offer for him, I don’t think any club is going to offer more than 24/25 million for him.

It is actually not a bad decision to actually let him go for that amount or even to loan him out. First of all, he has high weekly wage and it looks like he is going to stay on the bench for most of the time next season so I dont see why should we keep him in the team only for him to be a bench warmer. Aside from that, everyone knows how bad he is therefore there is no reason to actually keep him in the team

Harry Maguire did not have good games on the field last season, his mistakes were always in the highlight, and he had a suicide goal that was quite burdensome for the team, the price was fairly expensive with unstable performance. If in bandrol at a low price is a natural thing at this time, or lent it may be better than being maintained with such conditions, even though you have to swallow losses.

On the other hand financially is difficult, but the team needs to take action that should provide benefits to the team from its performance, I think this decision is the right decision rather than providing blind salary to him.

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July 30, 2023, 05:38:07 PM
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Letting Harry Maguire go for only 20 million is certainly a big loss for the club. But I also do not believe that there are any other better options to be honest. Because even if they get another offer for him, I don’t think any club is going to offer more than 24/25 million for him.

It is actually not a bad decision to actually let him go for that amount or even to loan him out. First of all, he has high weekly wage and it looks like he is going to stay on the bench for most of the time next season so I dont see why should we keep him in the team only for him to be a bench warmer. Aside from that, everyone knows how bad he is therefore there is no reason to actually keep him in the team
The issue is not allowing Maguire to leave Man Utd for West Ham, but would he agree a pay-cut before agreeing a personal term with West Ham? Even if West Ham make an improve offer more than 20 million, because the club won't be able to pay as much as he earn in Man Utd with regards to his weekly wages, though a regular playing time will be guaranteed at West Ham which will help his career in England National team, though I agreed that 20 million is too small for a player of his calibre, however if West Ham increases their offer Man Utd should consider it because staying at Man Utd will limit his playing time, Varane, Martinez, Lindelof and Evans are favorites of Erik ten Hag in the central defence.

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Letting Harry Maguire go for only 20 million is certainly a big loss for the club. But I also do not believe that there are any other better options to be honest. Because even if they get another offer for him, I don’t think any club is going to offer more than 24/25 million for him. And by not selling him, or stalling, they are probably going to run out of options. I think it will be better for Manchester United to let him go. At this 20 million and not paying him the salary that they are paying already is a win situation for Manchester United in my opinion.
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I think Harry Maguire did not deserve a position in Manchester United’s defense following his poor performances and all the losses he has caused the team. Although he tried his best when he arrived at the club, he became a flop in the back four of Manchester United. Therefore, any amount they sold him for is better for them than keeping him to keep causing lapses in the team.

I am very sure that Manchester United will never regret letting him go for such an amount because they know that there are not too many teams bidding for him, so a move to West Ham United for 20 million is not a bad move.

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It is probably true that if they get an offer from the Saudi league, they are certainly going to get more money. But is there going to be an offer from the Saudi league? At the moment they are trying to get popular players in the league. And I don’t think Harry Maguire fits the description to be honest.
I doubt if such an offer will come for Harry Maguire, whose performance was very poor last season.
Saudi League teams are looking for popularity, which is why they are signing players they think have already made names in Europe so that it will make their fans concentrate on their league.


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I don't think Manchester United will let Maguire go for 20 million and complete the deal with West Ham. The price clause offered by West Ham is far below Manchester United's expectations, even though as we know Maguire is getting worse and no one wants him there anymore including Manchester United fans. Seeing these conditions I am quite concerned to see Maguire who is constantly under pressure, but there is nothing he can do other than leave because there is no place for him anymore at Manchester United. Manchester United want 35-40 million for any club interested in Maguire. If another club bids more than West Ham then Manchester United will not hesitate to sign a deal. He is 30 years old, old enough for him to be in the EPL and I think he will most likely go to the Arab League if one of the Arab clubs makes an offer, for his age most of them would choose to go there with the aim of increasing their finances. I'll still be waiting for an update on Maguire.

Letting Harry Maguire go for only 20 million is certainly a big loss for the club. But I also do not believe that there are any other better options to be honest. Because even if they get another offer for him, I don’t think any club is going to offer more than 24/25 million for him. And by not selling him, or stalling, they are probably going to run out of options. I think it will be better for Manchester United to let him go. At this 20 million and not paying him the salary that they are paying already is a win situation for Manchester United in my opinion.

It is probably true that if they get an offer from the Saudi league, they are certainly going to get more money. But is there going to be an offer from the Saudi league? At the moment they are trying to get popular players in the league. And I don’t think Harry Maguire fits the description to be honest.

As a club that has been in this business for many years and multiple decades, I believe they are in a good position to know that having a player among them has some stretch of risk, it is unavoidable and that is what Maguire's fate has shown them, they can't deny that Maguire is no longer useful to them because even Erik has to remove the captain band from him to another player as that signifies a good leadership and we have not seen anything significant from Maguire, they better let him go while the offer is still reasonable, Maguire is a public figure that every club knows his poor performance, they wouldn't bid more than this price.

Saudi Arabia pro leagues know what they are doing, some people think the Arabians like Al-Hilal and others are just throwing money to buy worthless European players but they know why they are bringing some to their clubs. There are players that have spent their entire life in Laliga and Premier League with good fame, going to Saudi Arabia may be another means to remain relevant but to the clubs, their presence here is for recognition and an increase in sales of shirts and tickets. Maguire is a player that is known for scoring own goals, I bet even the underdeveloped clubs wouldn't break the bank to have him among them.

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