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July 30, 2023, 05:15:53 PM
Last edit: July 30, 2023, 05:45:01 PM by klidex
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Letting Harry Maguire go for only 20 million is certainly a big loss for the club. But I also do not believe that there are any other better options to be honest. Because even if they get another offer for him, I don’t think any club is going to offer more than 24/25 million for him.

It is actually not a bad decision to actually let him go for that amount or even to loan him out. First of all, he has high weekly wage and it looks like he is going to stay on the bench for most of the time next season so I dont see why should we keep him in the team only for him to be a bench warmer. Aside from that, everyone knows how bad he is therefore there is no reason to actually keep him in the team
Actually for me 20m is indeed a price that make a loss but with poor performance Harry Maguire deserves that price because indeed Maguire no longer worth keeping because he doesn have a good contribution to the club and making the decision to use him as a backup just wasting money to pay him.
Slightly baffled by the goal of United management but I have a feeling this is something they are up to but the terrified Harry Maguire fans are throwing tantrums again like never before.
Or maybe the United coach just trying to provide an opportunity to fix all of Maguire bad things last season but it seems like it will only be in vain.
If we look at it from my point of view, it seems that Harry Maguire himself actually want to move to another club to try his luck at another club

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July 30, 2023, 05:31:37 PM
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Letting Harry Maguire go for only 20 million is certainly a big loss for the club. But I also do not believe that there are any other better options to be honest. Because even if they get another offer for him, I don’t think any club is going to offer more than 24/25 million for him.

It is actually not a bad decision to actually let him go for that amount or even to loan him out. First of all, he has high weekly wage and it looks like he is going to stay on the bench for most of the time next season so I dont see why should we keep him in the team only for him to be a bench warmer. Aside from that, everyone knows how bad he is therefore there is no reason to actually keep him in the team

Harry Maguire did not have good games on the field last season, his mistakes were always in the highlight, and he had a suicide goal that was quite burdensome for the team, the price was fairly expensive with unstable performance. If in bandrol at a low price is a natural thing at this time, or lent it may be better than being maintained with such conditions, even though you have to swallow losses.

On the other hand financially is difficult, but the team needs to take action that should provide benefits to the team from its performance, I think this decision is the right decision rather than providing blind salary to him.

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July 30, 2023, 05:38:07 PM
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Letting Harry Maguire go for only 20 million is certainly a big loss for the club. But I also do not believe that there are any other better options to be honest. Because even if they get another offer for him, I don’t think any club is going to offer more than 24/25 million for him.

It is actually not a bad decision to actually let him go for that amount or even to loan him out. First of all, he has high weekly wage and it looks like he is going to stay on the bench for most of the time next season so I dont see why should we keep him in the team only for him to be a bench warmer. Aside from that, everyone knows how bad he is therefore there is no reason to actually keep him in the team
The issue is not allowing Maguire to leave Man Utd for West Ham, but would he agree a pay-cut before agreeing a personal term with West Ham? Even if West Ham make an improve offer more than 20 million, because the club won't be able to pay as much as he earn in Man Utd with regards to his weekly wages, though a regular playing time will be guaranteed at West Ham which will help his career in England National team, though I agreed that 20 million is too small for a player of his calibre, however if West Ham increases their offer Man Utd should consider it because staying at Man Utd will limit his playing time, Varane, Martinez, Lindelof and Evans are favorites of Erik ten Hag in the central defence.

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Letting Harry Maguire go for only 20 million is certainly a big loss for the club. But I also do not believe that there are any other better options to be honest. Because even if they get another offer for him, I don’t think any club is going to offer more than 24/25 million for him. And by not selling him, or stalling, they are probably going to run out of options. I think it will be better for Manchester United to let him go. At this 20 million and not paying him the salary that they are paying already is a win situation for Manchester United in my opinion.
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I think Harry Maguire did not deserve a position in Manchester United’s defense following his poor performances and all the losses he has caused the team. Although he tried his best when he arrived at the club, he became a flop in the back four of Manchester United. Therefore, any amount they sold him for is better for them than keeping him to keep causing lapses in the team.

I am very sure that Manchester United will never regret letting him go for such an amount because they know that there are not too many teams bidding for him, so a move to West Ham United for 20 million is not a bad move.

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It is probably true that if they get an offer from the Saudi league, they are certainly going to get more money. But is there going to be an offer from the Saudi league? At the moment they are trying to get popular players in the league. And I don’t think Harry Maguire fits the description to be honest.
I doubt if such an offer will come for Harry Maguire, whose performance was very poor last season.
Saudi League teams are looking for popularity, which is why they are signing players they think have already made names in Europe so that it will make their fans concentrate on their league.


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July 30, 2023, 06:11:44 PM
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Is Marcelo Vieira a good signing for Saudi Arabia's Al-Nassr? 
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July 30, 2023, 06:44:16 PM
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I don't think Manchester United will let Maguire go for 20 million and complete the deal with West Ham. The price clause offered by West Ham is far below Manchester United's expectations, even though as we know Maguire is getting worse and no one wants him there anymore including Manchester United fans. Seeing these conditions I am quite concerned to see Maguire who is constantly under pressure, but there is nothing he can do other than leave because there is no place for him anymore at Manchester United. Manchester United want 35-40 million for any club interested in Maguire. If another club bids more than West Ham then Manchester United will not hesitate to sign a deal. He is 30 years old, old enough for him to be in the EPL and I think he will most likely go to the Arab League if one of the Arab clubs makes an offer, for his age most of them would choose to go there with the aim of increasing their finances. I'll still be waiting for an update on Maguire.

Letting Harry Maguire go for only 20 million is certainly a big loss for the club. But I also do not believe that there are any other better options to be honest. Because even if they get another offer for him, I don’t think any club is going to offer more than 24/25 million for him. And by not selling him, or stalling, they are probably going to run out of options. I think it will be better for Manchester United to let him go. At this 20 million and not paying him the salary that they are paying already is a win situation for Manchester United in my opinion.

It is probably true that if they get an offer from the Saudi league, they are certainly going to get more money. But is there going to be an offer from the Saudi league? At the moment they are trying to get popular players in the league. And I don’t think Harry Maguire fits the description to be honest.

As a club that has been in this business for many years and multiple decades, I believe they are in a good position to know that having a player among them has some stretch of risk, it is unavoidable and that is what Maguire's fate has shown them, they can't deny that Maguire is no longer useful to them because even Erik has to remove the captain band from him to another player as that signifies a good leadership and we have not seen anything significant from Maguire, they better let him go while the offer is still reasonable, Maguire is a public figure that every club knows his poor performance, they wouldn't bid more than this price.

Saudi Arabia pro leagues know what they are doing, some people think the Arabians like Al-Hilal and others are just throwing money to buy worthless European players but they know why they are bringing some to their clubs. There are players that have spent their entire life in Laliga and Premier League with good fame, going to Saudi Arabia may be another means to remain relevant but to the clubs, their presence here is for recognition and an increase in sales of shirts and tickets. Maguire is a player that is known for scoring own goals, I bet even the underdeveloped clubs wouldn't break the bank to have him among them.

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July 30, 2023, 06:51:00 PM
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News from the Mirror and Twitter that Liverpool and PSG opened talks about Kylian Mbappe, it's about his loan status for 1 season after an offer from Al-Hilal rejected by Mbappe.

Is this a solution for PSG to earn money? There is no mention of how the total price will be installed if it is true that the loan status to Liverpool occurs, this seems to be still in the discussion stage and can happen or not.
It is already certain that Mbappe next season will be at Real Madrid on a free transfer.

I wonder who the initiator of these negotiations (if they really take place)? PSG's interest is understandable - they are trying to minimize the losses from the fact that Mbappe remains on their balance sheet. I don’t understand what Mbappe’s interest in this deal could be and I don’t understand what interesting things Liverpool can offer to interest Mbappe.
This loan deal for one year serves two purposes, It will bring in cash for psg, also allowing the 24-year-old player to complete his dream move to Real Madrid next year.
It's simple that Mbappe has no interest in this deal and will firmly reject it. His sole focus is on moving to Real Madrid once his time at psg comes to an end.
So, these types of news articles regarding Mbappe may be designed solely click bait and not trust-worthy, in this case not to take this seriously.

I thought this was just gossip, moreover I didn't find it in some of the media that I used to refer to. there is a theory that makes more sense to me, actually PSG have to let Mabppe go if they want to be safe in the following seasons. because after all, PSG have to sell some of their players because they have poured a lot of money. if not, it is very likely that PSG will be subject to FFP sanctions. Mbappe's transfer saga drama is not only about money, star players and keeping Mbappe with new contacts, in fact it is more complicated than I thought.

We know very well, PSG failed in their mega star project, they did not get the Champions League trophy even though they had many star players and spent a lot of money. if Mbappe leaves as a free agent in 2024, it won't just be a financial loss for them. however, they are more likely to be subject to FFP sanctions. like it or not, with this scenario PSG have to sell it. that's why, I said that the Mbappe transfer saga drama will be very tough.

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The Saudi Arabian giants Al-Nassr have again taken an interest in former Real Madrid left back Marcelo Vieira to bring them their former teammate Cristiano Ronaldo. to make their duos again with their best understanding of each other. 
Cristiano Ronaldo and Marcelo Vieira formed a massive partnership with each other at Real Madrid. Marcelo Vieira and Cristiano Ronaldo made 332 appearances with a combined 33 goals. So is it possible for them to reunite again? Give us your thoughts. 
I think in this case it's not a matter of whether it's good or not but whether it's still feasible or not and for the size of the Arab League and with the exposure of Marcelo of course it's still quite feasible.
He's still 35 years old and I think he's still very useful in lower competitions than Europe so in that sense I think he's still capable enough to compete.
On the other hand, he will also reunite with Ronaldo and of course that's still expected for me who really liked Marcelo's style of play when he was in Madrid.
Although in this case there must be a lot of decline in performance but to be in the Arab competition I think Marcelo is still capable.

But I still haven't found much news about Marcelo going to Al Nassr until now.

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July 30, 2023, 07:15:51 PM
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Is Marcelo Vieira a good signing for Saudi Arabia's Al-Nassr? 
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The Saudi Arabian giants Al-Nassr have again taken an interest in former Real Madrid left back Marcelo Vieira to bring them their former teammate Cristiano Ronaldo. to make their duos again with their best understanding of each other. 
Cristiano Ronaldo and Marcelo Vieira formed a massive partnership with each other at Real Madrid. Marcelo Vieira and Cristiano Ronaldo made 332 appearances with a combined 33 goals. So is it possible for them to reunite again? Give us your thoughts. 

I think it is very much possible for them to reunite again with each other. I think we should remember that the Saudi club actually wanted Cristiano Ronaldo really bad. I heard the news that when Cristiano Ronaldo decided to go to Al nassr the player who actually had the number seven jersey really did not want to give up the number for Cristiano Ronaldo. The club actually terminated his contract and gave Cristiano Ronaldo number seven jersey. So I think we can say that Cristiano Ronaldo does have some influence over the decisions that are generally taken by the club.

So there is always a chance that if Cristiano Ronaldo wants he might actually influence the club in bringing in the player that he actually wants. Naturally, this is only speculation on my part; however, I firmly believe that this possibility holds merit.

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July 30, 2023, 07:22:09 PM
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I don't think Manchester United will let Maguire go for 20 million and complete the deal with West Ham. The price clause offered by West Ham is far below Manchester United's expectations, even though as we know Maguire is getting worse and no one wants him there anymore including Manchester United fans. Seeing these conditions I am quite concerned to see Maguire who is constantly under pressure, but there is nothing he can do other than leave because there is no place for him anymore at Manchester United. Manchester United want 35-40 million for any club interested in Maguire. If another club bids more than West Ham then Manchester United will not hesitate to sign a deal. He is 30 years old, old enough for him to be in the EPL and I think he will most likely go to the Arab League if one of the Arab clubs makes an offer, for his age most of them would choose to go there with the aim of increasing their finances. I'll still be waiting for an update on Maguire.
The situation with Harry Maguire at Manchester United brings up important questions about the risks that come with player success. Maguire's performance has gotten worse, and it looks like Manchester United will decide to part ways with him soon. West Ham's offer of $20 million may not match the club's valuation, but given Maguire's present form, is any other team likely to offer much more? Maybe the best thing for them to do is to let Maguire go while the deal is still good. Possible deals from the Arab League could be more lucrative, but they depend on Maguire's popularity, which seems doubtful right now. Its a scary situation, and we're looking forward to hearing more

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July 30, 2023, 07:22:56 PM
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PSG are trying to make a move for Ousmane Dembele and complete the transfer as soon as possible according to the source below.

The source: https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/38087818/ousmane-dembele-set-seal-psg-transfer-barcelona-sources

Dembele has a release clause which is worth around €50m now. However it is said that this opportunity is closing on Monday. PSG had better act faster if they want to seal this deal. Barcelona's hands are tied in this situation and they will hope for Dembele to choose to stay. However his contract is already ending in one year. Xavi really likes to have him at his team so maybe he might affect his decision positively somehow.
I heard about a swap deal between Dembele and Neymar but I don't see it in the news. I didn't find what Dembele wants but it appears that a move to PSG is close and serious so Barcelona captain start talking about it and say that Dembele should remain in the team since it has the best squad.
Such move will facilitate the departure of Mbappe a bit since the situation in PSG doesn't seem to be perfect with a loss even though it is a friendly one vs Osaka.

Such swap deal would be amazing for Barcelona on paper. Because Neymar is a way more skilled player than Dembele that's for sure. But even if it is a possible deal it is still risky for them on one hand. Because Neymar is an injury-prone player as everyone knows. He missed so many games last season also.

Besides is such swap deal even possible between Barcelona and PSG now? Because there is a huge difference between the amount of salaries these players have. While Dembele's salary is €12m yearly it is €56m for Neymar. Maybe this might cause some problems with FFP rules even if Barcelona manage to meet Neymar's demands.

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Or maybe the United coach just trying to provide an opportunity to fix all of Maguire bad things last season but it seems like it will only be in vain.

Pretty sure Ten Haag is not doing that, otherwise he wont be giving short term contract to Johny Evans. He tried to get rid of Maguire by giving that short term contract so any decent offer for Maguire will most likely be accepted. The fact that until now that there isnt any team reported to be giving official bids for Maguire totally shows how bad he currently is

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July 30, 2023, 07:40:14 PM
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Letting Harry Maguire go for only 20 million is certainly a big loss for the club. But I also do not believe that there are any other better options to be honest. Because even if they get another offer for him, I don’t think any club is going to offer more than 24/25 million for him. And by not selling him, or stalling, they are probably going to run out of options. I think it will be better for Manchester United to let him go. At this 20 million and not paying him the salary that they are paying already is a win situation for Manchester United in my opinion.

The best option is to sell Maguire at the 20 million price they’re offering. We all know that Harry Maguire has lost form in the pitch completely, this is among the factors that Manchester United are willing to let him go and also had him gave the captain position to Bruno Fernandes. If I was in Manchester United shoes, I’ll gladly accept the money to further not to incur more loss at a later time when his value will have been reduced more than now.

Defense is one of the things that Chelsea must improve next season and they have reached an agreement with Axel Disasi from AS Monaco. It is reported that the contract duration is 5 years with a total cost of 45 million euros and this will be a new strength for Chelsea to be able to correct last season's mistakes which often lost the ball in the defensive area which made them often lose. Axel Disasi will also replace Wesley Fofana who was injured some time ago. We'll see how Chelsea will be under Pochettino's leadership later and hope they can do their best.

Pochettino keeps strengthening Chelsea ahead of next season premier league. We have seen how he has been doing well in the preseason games and this has raised the hopes of many Chelsea supporters that the team will do better next season. By adding new players to the defensive line is a great idea to make the team stronger and unbreakable to penetrate in during attacking games on them. Many people already have high expectations for them, I hope they don’t disappoint later.

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Callum Hudson-Odoi was loaned to Leverkusen last season and i have to says his performance wasn't too impressive that's why Leverkusen didn't permanent him and Callum Hudson-Odoi is the player from Chelsea academy and he got promote since 2020 to senior team but indeed he was a bit unlucky because since Tuchel era until Potters he was unable to earn trust from those managers and at Leverkusen too last season Xabi Alonso didn't always putting him at Leverkusen starting lineup and Hudson-Odoi even always be played as substitution player

However Fulham so far the most serious team who want him but indeed Chelsea want not less than 8 millions but Fulham only dare to bid 4 millions but the negotiation still on progress and probably Fulham are willing to raised their bid and Hudson-Odoi don't want to staying at Chelsea anymore especially after Mauricio Pochettino will not include him in his plans for next season so Hudson-Odoi hopes he can moved permanent from Chelsea

Callum Hudson- Odoi was predicted to be one of the rising young players in the premier league few years ago has unfortunately we have not been seeing the flourishing side of his career recently. His performance in recent seasons have not been rosy as one would expect and now there is a possibility of leaving the club this summer. I believe Fulham will be a good side for him, they have many young players and I believe he can build his confidence again.

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July 30, 2023, 07:46:38 PM
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Is Marcelo Vieira a good signing for Saudi Arabia's Al-Nassr? 
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The Saudi Arabian giants Al-Nassr have again taken an interest in former Real Madrid left back Marcelo Vieira to bring them their former teammate Cristiano Ronaldo. to make their duos again with their best understanding of each other. 
Cristiano Ronaldo and Marcelo Vieira formed a massive partnership with each other at Real Madrid. Marcelo Vieira and Cristiano Ronaldo made 332 appearances with a combined 33 goals. So is it possible for them to reunite again? Give us your thoughts. 

I think it is very much possible for them to reunite again with each other. I think we should remember that the Saudi club actually wanted Cristiano Ronaldo really bad. I heard the news that when Cristiano Ronaldo decided to go to Al nassr the player who actually had the number seven jersey really did not want to give up the number for Cristiano Ronaldo. The club actually terminated his contract and gave Cristiano Ronaldo number seven jersey. So I think we can say that Cristiano Ronaldo does have some influence over the decisions that are generally taken by the club.

So there is always a chance that if Cristiano Ronaldo wants he might actually influence the club in bringing in the player that he actually wants. Naturally, this is only speculation on my part; however, I firmly believe that this possibility holds merit.

I would not use that as a proof that Ronaldo has some influence over the club. He has influence anyway and I am quite sure that he didn't even have to ask for the number 7 as it is well known that his entire brand CR7 is built around his jersey number for every product he is selling. He has influence because he is who he is and because he has this massive following on social media. The club was well advised to please him in whatever way they can so he is willing to be the best representative possible in public. Any small shenanigans like denying him his number would have led to bad club recognition. The club knew who they were signing.

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July 30, 2023, 07:50:19 PM
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Not a day goes by now without a team from Saudi Arabia bringing in another well-known player. I wonder where this is all going to take us, in the end we nobody wants to watch European leagues anymore because there aren't any good players left. The problem started with Neymar's transfer of over €200m, this transfer was the trigger for the other crazy sums. Now we have reached the point where money has no value and the Saudi teams are paying imaginary amounts. I now fear that football is slowly dying out.

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July 30, 2023, 07:53:18 PM
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The Saudi Arabian giants Al-Nassr have again taken an interest in former Real Madrid left back Marcelo Vieira to bring them their former teammate Cristiano Ronaldo. to make their duos again with their best understanding of each other. 
Cristiano Ronaldo and Marcelo Vieira formed a massive partnership with each other at Real Madrid. Marcelo Vieira and Cristiano Ronaldo made 332 appearances with a combined 33 goals. So is it possible for them to reunite again? Give us your thoughts. 
Marcelo... why not, he is also responsible for motivation with his positive attitude.

But what I find more interesting, the maybe transfer of Sadio Mane from FC Bayern Munich to Al-Nassr currently „in aktion“. Fabrizio Romano says there are only final details to be discussed. For Bayern Munich it would be the best, his salary is too high. A transfer fee of +35 million euros has been offered by Al-Nassr. In 3 days is the testmatch against Liverpool FC, I think Mane will not be there.

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July 30, 2023, 07:54:27 PM
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Is Marcelo Vieira a good signing for Saudi Arabia's Al-Nassr? 
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The Saudi Arabian giants Al-Nassr have again taken an interest in former Real Madrid left back Marcelo Vieira to bring them their former teammate Cristiano Ronaldo. to make their duos again with their best understanding of each other. 
Cristiano Ronaldo and Marcelo Vieira formed a massive partnership with each other at Real Madrid. Marcelo Vieira and Cristiano Ronaldo made 332 appearances with a combined 33 goals. So is it possible for them to reunite again? Give us your thoughts. 

Why not? This is a proven duo and I would be pleased to see it in action again. I think that in the next couple of seasons they will still be able to match the level of the Saudi league. But if you build a club with long-term plans, then obviously this is a temporary option - they are both already old, and if the level of the league continues to grow at such a pace, they will fall behind very quickly.

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July 30, 2023, 08:17:19 PM
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Some fans asked to Lukaku if he is going to Juventus and he said no.
I think we don't need to trust him, they were Inter's supporters so it makes sense if he lied to them, cause Juventus is their number 1 enemy.

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Not a day goes by now without a team from Saudi Arabia bringing in another well-known player. I wonder where this is all going to take us, in the end we nobody wants to watch European leagues anymore because there aren't any good players left. The problem started with Neymar's transfer of over €200m, this transfer was the trigger for the other crazy sums. Now we have reached the point where money has no value and the Saudi teams are paying imaginary amounts. I now fear that football is slowly dying out.

What do you mean there are no good players left in Europe? You're either looking too far ahead or you're confused. There are relatively few high quality players leaving for Saudi Arabia, and besides most of them are of an age where it's time to retire. The European football leagues are the base where absolutely all players who want to develop look to, the SPL on the contrary is for those who want to make money and it won't be long before we see this league at the top

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