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June 28, 2023, 01:21:48 PM
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Players have their priorities and they make their choices but if I were Maddison, I would not want to involve with Tottenham now they are not playing in any Europe competitions. They are not also sure of going home with any trophy coming season. While we all solicit for Harry Kane to leave Tot for a trophy career, Maddison really wants to join him.

But it will be a good business for Tottenham if this happens. But who will score the goals since Kane is leaving?
At least Maddison ever won a trophy, so even though he will not able to get any trophy in Tottenham, he can retire without any regret Cheesy

As good as squad that Tottenham have, they can't win any trophy and only able to qualify for Champions league or Europa league.

If Kane really leaving Tottenham, there's will be no player who's good to score a goal except Son. Tottenham would become a mediocre team when Kane leaving them, they're always become a black horse in Premier League.
Well Tottenham is already a mediocre team considering the game and the result and if Tottenham didn't have Kane and Son, not only would there really be no one to score, but Tottenham would probably be fighting for survival.

In any case for Maddison it's better to be at Tottenham than at Leicester. It's clear that Tottenham probably won't win a trophy, but Maddison will play in the Premier League and should get into the England squad for Euro 2024.
He's not a bad player. During the season he managed to score 10 goals and give 9 assists. So £40m is not such a big price to pay for such a player.

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June 28, 2023, 01:49:33 PM
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It seems that they are trying to minimize expenses. They retained Kroos and Modric for a period of one year. It can wait for the funds to come back in. Anceloti has the opportunity to choose players. It seems that the management planned this to save costs. Although Modric and Kroos are getting old, they are still able to perform well. Moreover, plus Bellingham, he can learn from the two of them.
Your assumptions are very reasonable, Modric and Kroos are still able to contribute well at a high level, Real Madrid chose to cut costs by offering these two players short-term contracts. Real Madrid is one of the busiest clubs in the transfer market this time, they have to prepare large amounts of money to bring in several new players.

After losing several players such as Benzema, Hazard, Marco Asensio and Mariano Diaz, Real Madrid focus in the transfer market this summer is on the front lines. Mbappe is still in the negotiation stage with PSG, Osimhen as a second option if they fail to sign Mbappe. The need for several new players requires a strategy in spending money, extending the contracts of Modric and Kroos as an option to save expenses made by Real Madrid.

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June 28, 2023, 01:57:58 PM
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Now Manchester City have pulled out of Declan Rice deal. I think though Manchester City might not have prioritize Rice but they would have taken him in if he had chosen them... So, the OPTICS now is that, for once Arsenal beat a top team to the signing of a "top player" ! And also they were negotiating a deal with the Leipzig defender Gvardiol, so I felt like they can’t pay more than what Arsenal offered, if they do it they are fucked because Leipzig will ask for more money which will put Manchester City in a tight spot.
So they had a very tough decision to make Rice or The Croatian defender. Now they might go all in for Gvardiol.

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Modric and Kroos are still able to contribute well at a high level, Real Madrid chose to cut costs by offering these two players short-term contracts.
Modric is an Important player for both his country and his club. Aside the reason of cutting cost, Real Madrid need the experience that these players have. Also they have spent years in Real Madrid and it will be good to have them around to usher in the new generation of Real Madrid's midfield. In very serious games, there will be a good combination of old and experienced with the young, vibrant and talented in Real Madrid's midfield, that is something very good.

Now they might go all in for Gvardiol.
This guy was one of the discoveries from the world cup, he will be an important player for Manchester City as they try to defend the three titles they won last season.

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June 28, 2023, 02:05:00 PM
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Modric and Kroos are still able to contribute well at a high level, Real Madrid chose to cut costs by offering these two players short-term contracts.
Modric is an Important player for both his country and his club. Aside the reason of cutting cost, Real Madrid need the experience that these players have. Also they have spent years in Real Madrid and it will be good to have them around to usher in the new generation of Real Madrid's midfield. In very serious games, there will be a good combination of old and experienced with the young, vibrant and talented in Real Madrid's midfield, that is something very good.

Now they might go all in for Gvardiol.
This guy was spectacular in the world cup, he will be an important player for Manchester City as they try to defend the three titles they won last season.
Modric is one of the oldest players at Real Madrid and there is no doubt that Modric's experience understands the strategy that Real Madrid always uses to win every game. yes, although a short-term contract would be better because if at this time Real Madrid is able to bring in young players from other teams I think it will be stronger because as you said the combination of old players with younger players will be very good and able to strengthen Madrid's performance.

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June 28, 2023, 02:22:10 PM
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Use your heads, boys Grin
We could not compete for Mbappe even when we were chasing the title and going to CL finals, and that was before he signed the huge PSG deal.

We won't be in the CL and we have nowhere near enough money for that (both the transfer and the salary), even if you see a million links quoted from Mbappe's mother herself, it won't be happening.

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I like Maddison, I think it is a good addition to the Spurs team. Still won't be enough for them to make the wanted step up and reach the top 4.

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June 28, 2023, 02:34:33 PM
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Now Manchester City have pulled out of Declan Rice deal. I think though Manchester City might not have prioritize Rice but they would have taken him in if he had chosen them... So, the OPTICS now is that, for once Arsenal beat a top team to the signing of a "top player" ! And also they were negotiating a deal with the Leipzig defender Gvardiol, so I felt like they can’t pay more than what Arsenal offered, if they do it they are fucked because Leipzig will ask for more money which will put Manchester City in a tight spot.
So they had a very tough decision to make Rice or The Croatian defender. Now they might go all in for Gvardiol.

Manchester City is not going after Declan Rice anymore. So of course it is Arsenal. As we can see from the tweet of Fabrizio Romano, Arsenal is expected to get him very quickly. And honestly don’t think any other club is going to offer more than what Arsenal is offering right now.
With Declan Rice out of the way, Manchester City can now concentrate on getting other players.

Honestly, I think being more than what Arsenal is offering for Declan Rice right now is not a value for money in the end. So Manchester City made the right decision in my opinion.


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June 28, 2023, 02:38:29 PM
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Modric and Kroos are still able to contribute well at a high level, Real Madrid chose to cut costs by offering these two players short-term contracts.
Modric is an Important player for both his country and his club. Aside the reason of cutting cost, Real Madrid need the experience that these players have. Also they have spent years in Real Madrid and it will be good to have them around to usher in the new generation of Real Madrid's midfield. In very serious games, there will be a good combination of old and experienced with the young, vibrant and talented in Real Madrid's midfield, that is something.

I don't follow the spanish League that closely so i have seen Modric play only in the Champions League and of course also during the World cup thks Winter and in every performance that i have seen of him i had the impression that he plays like a 28 year. For me it was not nlticeable that he is already 38 years old. There are only good and Bad players and modric is one of the best. So if you have the chance to sign a player like him for another year, then you should definitely do that.
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June 28, 2023, 02:44:29 PM
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Now Manchester City have pulled out of Declan Rice deal. I think though Manchester City might not have prioritize Rice but they would have taken him in if he had chosen them... So, the OPTICS now is that, for once Arsenal beat a top team to the signing of a "top player" ! And also they were negotiating a deal with the Leipzig defender Gvardiol, so I felt like they can’t pay more than what Arsenal offered, if they do it they are fucked because Leipzig will ask for more money which will put Manchester City in a tight spot.
So they had a very tough decision to make Rice or The Croatian defender. Now they might go all in for Gvardiol.
It was the right decision for Manchester City to withdraw from the competition for Declan Rice. Now we know very well how exorbitant the transfer fee wanted by West Ham for a player whose contribution is only counted for one season. Arsenal are on track to land Declan Rice with their latest offer and are set to break a club record transfer if this is agreed by West Ham.

Actually, Manchester City was not too confused even though they failed to get Declan Rice because the squad is still quite capable for next season. The focus now is on establishing their next target for Gvardiol and that is much easier for Manchester City to land in the summer.
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June 28, 2023, 02:48:57 PM
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Use your heads, boys Grin
We could not compete for Mbappe even when we were chasing the title and going to CL finals, and that was before he signed the huge PSG deal.

We won't be in the CL and we have nowhere near enough money for that (both the transfer and the salary), even if you see a million links quoted from Mbappe's mother herself, it won't be happening.

PSG should start calculating their losses because no team would pay such a large release clause, and Mbappe should start learning Chinese or Arabic because no team in Europe pays such high salary unless he is willing to cut it.

Real Madrid, Newcastle United, and Chelsea are the only clubs in Europe capable of triggering such a release clause but I don't see it happening.

I like Maddison, I think it is a good addition to the Spurs team. Still won't be enough for them to make the wanted step up and reach the top 4.

Thought he was going to Newcastle earlier before now, what changed? That's a great addition to the Spur team tbh.

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June 28, 2023, 02:51:07 PM
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Interesting development in Declan Rice transfer rumours today. Manchester City had first bid of 80m Euro fixed + 10m Euro addons before West Ham and Arsenal as expected made their third bid of 100m Euro fixed + 5m Euro addons [1]. City's bid was rejected and Arsenal bid is still on the table. Today, Romano has reported that City is now out of the race [2]for Declan rice, City don't want to be in the bidding war is what Romano reports. Now it is very close for Arsenal as City is out of the race and there is no other clubs in the race for Declan Rice.

Right now West Ham and Arsenal are discussing about the structure and payment terms of the fixed fee amount. It is very close now for Arsenal.

Damn, why the price of this player so expensive even more expensive than Haaland when he was brought in from Dortmund, does he have a good record so far?
I also read other news that Declan Rice has the potential to surpass the highest transfer record in the Premiere League which is currently held by Enzo Fernández when Chelsea signed him for €121 million, honestly I'm not sure it's worth the price it would be better for Manchester City to find another alternative.

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June 28, 2023, 02:57:07 PM
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Manchester City is not going after Declan Rice anymore. So of course it is Arsenal. As we can see from the tweet of Fabrizio Romano, Arsenal is expected to get him very quickly. And honestly don’t think any other club is going to offer more than what Arsenal is offering right now.
With Declan Rice out of the way, Manchester City can now concentrate on getting other players.

The way I see this attitude of Man City dropping out of the bid for Rice is as if they wanted to force Arsenal's hand. I doubt that Arteta would have upped the bid if he hadnt seen the competition. But from an honest standpoint, I don't understand why they would splash such an amount on a player that isn't worth it. Instead he would have seriously chased Brighton defensive midfielder, Moises Caicedo.
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June 28, 2023, 03:16:40 PM
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The way I see this attitude of Man City dropping out of the bid for Rice is as if they wanted to force Arsenal's hand. I doubt that Arteta would have upped the bid if he hadnt seen the competition. But from an honest standpoint, I don't understand why they would splash such an amount on a player that isn't worth it. Instead he would have seriously chased Brighton defensive midfielder, Moises Caicedo.

I always knew Manchester City will not sign Declan Rice. They have no real need for him. You can only spend that amount of money for a player that you really need, plus a player that is actually worth it. If Man City didn't have Rodri, I'm certain they would have bought Rice.
Arsenal actually needs Declan Rice, but not for that price. If I was Arsenal I wouldn't spend that kind of money on Rice.
I honestly don't know what Man City really wanted Rice in the first place.
I hope Arsenal gets Rice though, because they've spent a lot of time on him and they really need a good player in that position. I wonder how they would strengthen other part of their squad if they spend over 100million on a single player.

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June 28, 2023, 03:35:00 PM
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Damn, why the price of this player so expensive even more expensive than Haaland when he was brought in from Dortmund, does he have a good record so far?
I also read other news that Declan Rice has the potential to surpass the highest transfer record in the Premiere League which is currently held by Enzo Fernández when Chelsea signed him for €121 million, honestly I'm not sure it's worth the price it would be better for Manchester City to find another alternative.

Player doesn't have to have a good record. If he perfectly fits and adapts into most roles in his position then his value easily crosses above 50-60m Euro mark nowadays.

About Haaland, let's throw in another example- Mac Allister (35m Euro),what happened was the clubs (City, Liverpool) triggered the release clause in the contract for the player. In such scenarios, the current club of the player has to accept the bid and in that case the player's choice is what matters if multiple clubs have triggered the release clause. In case of Haaland, the release clause was 60m Euro and in case of Mac Allister it was 35 m Euro. Now in case of Rice, there is no release clause present so club can accept/reject any bid they want. The race between City and Arsenal spiked the value and which is why he is going for 100m Euro around.

Arsenal needs a DM right now which is why we have gone to this length in order to acquire Declan Rice. It's a gamble and I hope it turns out well.
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June 28, 2023, 03:37:36 PM
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Now Manchester City have pulled out of Declan Rice deal. I think though Manchester City might not have prioritize Rice but they would have taken him in if he had chosen them... So, the OPTICS now is that, for once Arsenal beat a top team to the signing of a "top player" ! And also they were negotiating a deal with the Leipzig defender Gvardiol, so I felt like they can’t pay more than what Arsenal offered, if they do it they are fucked because Leipzig will ask for more money which will put Manchester City in a tight spot.
So they had a very tough decision to make Rice or The Croatian defender. Now they might go all in for Gvardiol.
Manchester city had so many options. There are so many great midfielders available in the market with sense price compared with rice. There's no guarante if rice will perform like what already expected by arteta too.
That's why city was pulling itself out from the race to get rice from westham. Manchester city just need to find an alternative player which is very easy for a club that has won treble winners last season.
It can be said that if guardiola needs to pure more effort to find a great alternative for rice.

City has been doing the right thing by pulling out from the race to get rice. 100 millions are a lot of money for this time.
It's the time for manchester city to get a new great midfielder.

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June 28, 2023, 03:44:44 PM
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Now Manchester City have pulled out of Declan Rice deal. I think though Manchester City might not have prioritize Rice but they would have taken him in if he had chosen them... So, the OPTICS now is that, for once Arsenal beat a top team to the signing of a "top player" ! And also they were negotiating a deal with the Leipzig defender Gvardiol, so I felt like they can’t pay more than what Arsenal offered, if they do it they are fucked because Leipzig will ask for more money which will put Manchester City in a tight spot.
So they had a very tough decision to make Rice or The Croatian defender. Now they might go all in for Gvardiol.
Manchester city had so many options. There are so many great midfielders available in the market with sense price compared with rice. There's no guarante if rice will perform like what already expected by arteta too.
That's why city was pulling itself out from the race to get rice from westham. Manchester city just need to find an alternative player which is very easy for a club that has won treble winners last season.
It can be said that if guardiola needs to pure more effort to find a great alternative for rice.

City has been doing the right thing by pulling out from the race to get rice. 100 millions are a lot of money for this time.
It's the time for manchester city to get a new great midfielder.

Alternative players are definitely needed to make the team stronger. If any of the regulars currently playing for Manchester City are out of the field due to injury, it will be very difficult for them to win the match. Basically, if there are some players outside the regular eleven, they can support the team during the period when the regular players of the team are absent due to injury. In that case, Manchester City may have defense and midfielders on their list. Because I believe defending goals is better than scoring goals. Because if the defense and midfielders perform well and can supply the ball well then the forwards will do well. So right now if Manchester City can find an alternative defender or midfielder then their team will be a more balanced team.

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June 28, 2023, 03:52:27 PM
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Im sure bayern will be giving up in bidding kane. It will not meet €100m.
Harry kane does not sincerely look like a player for Bayern Munich. Real Madrid looks more like a club for him but since they are no longer interested, Bayern Munich has picked up the race to sign him. Bayern Munich are the owners of the Bundesliga as they have shown winning the title over and over again in the last couple of years, if Tottenham agree to sell Harry kane to Bayern Munich, he will not play in all games but can be assured of winning something in his first season. A move to the Bundesliga does not favour every player like Sadio Mane,  I prefer Harry kane moves to an English club like Manchester United still.
I agree with you 100% because with Real Madrid I see a better future for Harry Kane, he has the qualities and attitude to succeed at Real Madrid. He also has good and experienced midfielders at Madrid just the same way Erling Haaland is enjoying life and scoring many goals at Manchester City that is the kind of privilege Harry Kane will enjoy at Real Madrid and certainly winning trophies is assured.

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June 28, 2023, 04:03:51 PM
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Damn, why the price of this player so expensive even more expensive than Haaland when he was brought in from Dortmund, does he have a good record so far?
I also read other news that Declan Rice has the potential to surpass the highest transfer record in the Premiere League which is currently held by Enzo Fernández when Chelsea signed him for €121 million, honestly I'm not sure it's worth the price it would be better for Manchester City to find another alternative.

The Enzo package was £106m, £65m fixed + add-ons, whereas the Daclan Rice deal is £105 million, £100m fixed + £5m add-ons, therefore Arsenal is paying more than Chelsea because there is a chance that Chelsea will not pay the add-ons if the contract requirements are not met.

If the bid is accepted, Daclan Rice will become the most expensive package.

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June 28, 2023, 04:04:50 PM
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PSG should start calculating their losses because no team would pay such a large release clause, and Mbappe should start learning Chinese or Arabic because no team in Europe pays such high salary unless he is willing to cut it.

Real Madrid, Newcastle United, and Chelsea are the only clubs in Europe capable of triggering such a release clause but I don't see it happening.
True, with the release of such a high price I don't think any club would want him to even make a proposal. I understand that PSG didn't want him to leave as a free agent because that could lead to a big loss, but if indeed PSG are charging such a high price as a solution to offset his losses then it's a bit unreasonable and unlikely for a European club to make an offer. I think it looks like PSG will go after Pro Arab clubs and they set that price for Arab clubs not Europeans, because they know that money is not a problem for Arab clubs. I don't really know if Mbappe will stick with his decision to stay and leave when his contract expires, or agree with PSG's decision to sell him.

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June 28, 2023, 04:31:04 PM
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According the report some media, Arsenal have submit bid offer 100 million euro for West Ham United to sign Declan Rice, its official bid from Arsenal for fighting race with Manchester City announced interest with West Ham United captain team Declan Race.  Looks excited with Arsenal bid offer 100 million euro and depend with Manchester City will bid above 100 million euro or back from fighting to sign Declan Rice.

Arsenal looks confident for reach deal agreement with Declan Rice and West Ham United due their bid offer 100 million euro, I don't sure Manchester City will give up because they have loss Gundogan and Declan Rice could be best option for replacing midfielder position empty in Manchester City.

Who will win for signing Declan Rice Arsenal or Manchester City?
Arsenal is certainly stepping up, unleashing a hefty 100 million euro gamble on Declan Rice! They're pulling no punches. Its the green light for a fierce face-off. Yet, Manchester City isnt sitting idle. They're eyeing Rice and, looking to replace Gundogan, could raise the ante with a higher bid.

The competition is fierce, and the thrill is real. Who will triumph, and importantly, where will Rice end up? I strongly believe MC will have a better chance in this competition

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