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I'm a fan of NVO, but the fact of the matter is that everyone and their grandmother are now creating their own DEX. The longer it takes for NVO to launch, the less of an impact that it will have in the market space. Currently, we have Flyp.me, which is a decentralized exchange that has been up and running since August. They are still relatively unknown, but they're gaining more volume each month. The only way that NVO succeeds is if there is continued exponential demand for cryptocurrencies.
It looks like a new exchange gets launched every week and some of them will offer fiat to crypto exchange. The more time that passes, the less of an impact NVO will have when it eventually launches. Just my 2 cents.
Well, considering my grandmother would have a hard time understanding how to turn on a computer, let alone know what crypto is, let alone how to set up a DEX, and assuming that most grandmothers are in a similar situation to my own, I'm pretty sure the quality level of all of these grandmothers' DEXes is nothing to worry about compared to the complexity of the NVO DEX. As for flyp.me, it relies on other centralized exchanges to perform a trade, holds funds in a centralized wallet to facilitate trades, and sends centralized funds programmatically once your own funds are transmitted on the blockchain. It is NOT a DEX. It's just a web front end (with an api) that allows you to trade using other exchanges' liquidity anonymously. That's it. You still must trust the flyp.me operators to perform the trade. Just like any other centralized exchange. I guess that we can conclude that your grandmother isn't a candidate, but mine is. You may have a point about Flyp.me not being a DEX, but NEX definitely is. No matter how you slice it, NVO's novelty will be lost in a sea of DEXes about to be launched.
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January 31, 2018, 12:02:47 AM |
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I'm a fan of NVO, but the fact of the matter is that everyone and their grandmother are now creating their own DEX. The longer it takes for NVO to launch, the less of an impact that it will have in the market space. Currently, we have Flyp.me, which is a decentralized exchange that has been up and running since August. They are still relatively unknown, but they're gaining more volume each month. The only way that NVO succeeds is if there is continued exponential demand for cryptocurrencies.
It looks like a new exchange gets launched every week and some of them will offer fiat to crypto exchange. The more time that passes, the less of an impact NVO will have when it eventually launches. Just my 2 cents.
Well, considering my grandmother would have a hard time understanding how to turn on a computer, let alone know what crypto is, let alone how to set up a DEX, and assuming that most grandmothers are in a similar situation to my own, I'm pretty sure the quality level of all of these grandmothers' DEXes is nothing to worry about compared to the complexity of the NVO DEX. As for flyp.me, it relies on other centralized exchanges to perform a trade, holds funds in a centralized wallet to facilitate trades, and sends centralized funds programmatically once your own funds are transmitted on the blockchain. It is NOT a DEX. It's just a web front end (with an api) that allows you to trade using other exchanges' liquidity anonymously. That's it. You still must trust the flyp.me operators to perform the trade. Just like any other centralized exchange. I guess that we can conclude that your grandmother isn't a candidate, but mine is. You may have a point about Flyp.me not being a DEX, but NEX definitely is. No matter how you slice it, NVO's novelty will be lost in a sea of DEXes about to be launched. Let me know when your grandmother makes a DEX, then, I guess. I'm sure it will be world class.  I'll let your goalpost moving slide there, in order to point out that the draw of NVO isn't "novelty" - it's infinite extensibility through the cross-blockchain plugin system and pure counterparty protection. It's not about being first (although that's an enormous benefit), it's about being technologically superior. And, you're really not using very good examples to further your argument right now - NEX is only for use on the NEO chain. Hardly worth writing home about compared to a true cross-chain DEX that NVO aspires to be.
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January 31, 2018, 12:08:28 PM |
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Do we have an approx date on exchange launch? Website says q1
End of March is what they've been communicating on slack as well as telegram, so let's hope that's still the case 
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January 31, 2018, 02:00:06 PM |
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I'm a fan of NVO, but the fact of the matter is that everyone and their grandmother are now creating their own DEX. The longer it takes for NVO to launch, the less of an impact that it will have in the market space. Currently, we have Flyp.me, which is a decentralized exchange that has been up and running since August. They are still relatively unknown, but they're gaining more volume each month. The only way that NVO succeeds is if there is continued exponential demand for cryptocurrencies.
It looks like a new exchange gets launched every week and some of them will offer fiat to crypto exchange. The more time that passes, the less of an impact NVO will have when it eventually launches. Just my 2 cents.
Well, considering my grandmother would have a hard time understanding how to turn on a computer, let alone know what crypto is, let alone how to set up a DEX, and assuming that most grandmothers are in a similar situation to my own, I'm pretty sure the quality level of all of these grandmothers' DEXes is nothing to worry about compared to the complexity of the NVO DEX. As for flyp.me, it relies on other centralized exchanges to perform a trade, holds funds in a centralized wallet to facilitate trades, and sends centralized funds programmatically once your own funds are transmitted on the blockchain. It is NOT a DEX. It's just a web front end (with an api) that allows you to trade using other exchanges' liquidity anonymously. That's it. You still must trust the flyp.me operators to perform the trade. Just like any other centralized exchange. I guess that we can conclude that your grandmother isn't a candidate, but mine is. You may have a point about Flyp.me not being a DEX, but NEX definitely is. No matter how you slice it, NVO's novelty will be lost in a sea of DEXes about to be launched. If I had a dollar for every person who thinks all of these limited dex's coming out have any candle to hold to the depth of NVO.... The only one I can think of that will be competition is Blocknet - and even with them they are limited to coins that utilize the lightning network. NVO has stated from the beginning a release time of Q1 2018 - and here we are not even through with the first month of Q1 and folks are starting to complain.
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bkbirge
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January 31, 2018, 02:15:58 PM |
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We need more FUD here, I want more coins cheaper.
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January 31, 2018, 03:02:40 PM |
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We need more FUD here, I want more coins cheaper.
y, lets keep it up. i have some, but i wanna buy more. ok, my 2 cents: NVO...useless coins, useless project. always late on the party DEX? who needs it? wallet? omg, i have plenty wallets now. im sure it is a scam. devs are walking from each project right? i'd be buying at 1 cents. seems like a nice price. crypto's are dying soon. better have dollars. or gold. or girls.
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migello
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February 01, 2018, 10:00:29 AM |
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or girls.
i am a simple man, No NVST = No girls 
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February 01, 2018, 09:48:59 PM |
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How come your project have last update in Github in june 2017?
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Wilson623
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February 02, 2018, 06:16:25 AM |
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We need more FUD here, I want more coins cheaper.
Is it cheap enough now? 
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radiumsoup
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February 02, 2018, 02:33:53 PM |
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How come your project have last update in Github in june 2017?
Because having a public github repository is unnecessary at this stage. They have paid developers who don't need community input. Indeed, community input right now would probably slow development. Additionally, certain technology is apparently patentable, and the dev team wants to secure a patent before making the affected technology public - at minimum, they want a professional code audit before release. All of those things taken together means no public repository for now.
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February 02, 2018, 05:43:03 PM |
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I really hope something happens with the NVO wallet. I have tried so many times to sweep my several thousand NVST tokens using Counterpary without success. I feel like a hostage to Counterparty and thus and NVST due to the problems with moving my tokens.
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radiumsoup
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February 02, 2018, 06:05:37 PM |
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I really hope something happens with the NVO wallet. I have tried so many times to sweep my several thousand NVST tokens using Counterpary without success. I feel like a hostage to Counterparty and thus and NVST due to the problems with moving my tokens.
I trust you've tried the info here, right? https://counterpartytalk.org/t/sweep-private-keys-issue/2325/94a hosted version is available at https://sweep.nvo.party/ - run by community member TSWR
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February 02, 2018, 06:40:40 PM |
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I really hope something happens with the NVO wallet. I have tried so many times to sweep my several thousand NVST tokens using Counterpary without success. I feel like a hostage to Counterparty and thus and NVST due to the problems with moving my tokens.
I trust you've tried the info here, right? https://counterpartytalk.org/t/sweep-private-keys-issue/2325/94a hosted version is available at https://sweep.nvo.party/ - run by community member TSWR I will give those two a chance tonight. So far I have only tried using the Counterpary (and Coindaddy) main sites. Thanks!
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February 02, 2018, 07:24:39 PM |
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I really hope something happens with the NVO wallet. I have tried so many times to sweep my several thousand NVST tokens using Counterpary without success. I feel like a hostage to Counterparty and thus and NVST due to the problems with moving my tokens.
I trust you've tried the info here, right? https://counterpartytalk.org/t/sweep-private-keys-issue/2325/94a hosted version is available at https://sweep.nvo.party/ - run by community member TSWR I will give those two a chance tonight. So far I have only tried using the Counterpary (and Coindaddy) main sites. Thanks! Very good, glad I could help 
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crypt0kid
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February 04, 2018, 02:00:14 PM |
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I'm a fan of NVO, but the fact of the matter is that everyone and their grandmother are now creating their own DEX. The longer it takes for NVO to launch, the less of an impact that it will have in the market space. Currently, we have Flyp.me, which is a decentralized exchange that has been up and running since August. They are still relatively unknown, but they're gaining more volume each month. The only way that NVO succeeds is if there is continued exponential demand for cryptocurrencies.
It looks like a new exchange gets launched every week and some of them will offer fiat to crypto exchange. The more time that passes, the less of an impact NVO will have when it eventually launches. Just my 2 cents.
Well, considering my grandmother would have a hard time understanding how to turn on a computer, let alone know what crypto is, let alone how to set up a DEX, and assuming that most grandmothers are in a similar situation to my own, I'm pretty sure the quality level of all of these grandmothers' DEXes is nothing to worry about compared to the complexity of the NVO DEX. As for flyp.me, it relies on other centralized exchanges to perform a trade, holds funds in a centralized wallet to facilitate trades, and sends centralized funds programmatically once your own funds are transmitted on the blockchain. It is NOT a DEX. It's just a web front end (with an api) that allows you to trade using other exchanges' liquidity anonymously. That's it. You still must trust the flyp.me operators to perform the trade. Just like any other centralized exchange. I guess that we can conclude that your grandmother isn't a candidate, but mine is. You may have a point about Flyp.me not being a DEX, but NEX definitely is. No matter how you slice it, NVO's novelty will be lost in a sea of DEXes about to be launched. Let me know when your grandmother makes a DEX, then, I guess. I'm sure it will be world class.  I'll let your goalpost moving slide there, in order to point out that the draw of NVO isn't "novelty" - it's infinite extensibility through the cross-blockchain plugin system and pure counterparty protection. It's not about being first (although that's an enormous benefit), it's about being technologically superior. And, you're really not using very good examples to further your argument right now - NEX is only for use on the NEO chain. Hardly worth writing home about compared to a true cross-chain DEX that NVO aspires to be. My grandmother will be launching her DEX next month. I'll update you when it goes live  As for NVO and its competitors, only time will tell. I've invested a lot of money into this project, so I hope that it does well. We shall see in due time.
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February 05, 2018, 07:30:36 PM |
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Who crashed the NVST price? -_- It was perfect at $4+ Hope those people will regret when the DEX will be out
Have you seen the XCP and BTC charts lately? This is not an NVST crash, this is what it looks like when the whole market is attacked by a sleuth of bears. And I'm not normally one to support schadenfreude, but I'm sure they will feel some regret once things normalize and the DEX is operational and pumping out dividends. Personally, I hope that everyone who would be negatively affected by missing out would be able to get back in before they feel too bad about the whole thing.
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February 06, 2018, 01:12:14 AM Last edit: February 06, 2018, 01:31:39 AM by Wilson623 |
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"Get a perspective about the market! The price of Bitcoin today is still higher than it was just three months ago! In a long term view, Bicoin is still climbing. Forget about these short term ups and downs. If you are a short term investor, you need to get real" OK ... You are a hard sell crowd. Then let me show you a different perspective Bitcoin does this every year at this time: "This is the greatest buyers market in Cryptos that we've seen in the past six months. Buy the fucking dip!"by John McAfee - Verified account - @officialmcafee
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February 06, 2018, 01:28:58 PM |
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Really every beginning of the year the price of bitcoin decreases. But this time the correction was sharper, came many new people in the market who did not know these corrections and poured all in panic, too much bad news (FUD) from the Asian markets (India, South Korea and China). With China wanting to block access to foreign exchange in its territory, it could make the situation much worse in the future. Remaining only the p2p, for the chinese. Although this blocking is very difficult to be implemented in the short term.
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