Evolution is a hoax

[BADecker]

You still haven't shown proof that everything has a cause, though.

Sure I have.

You forget...

Everything is moving in the universe, because absolute zero is not quite attainable.

Movement means action.

Action means existence of reaction - Newton's 3rd Law.

This means that there is cause and effect in everything, which means there are programmed changes, not random mutations like Evolution theory says.

However, if absolute zero were attained somewhere in the universe, it wouldn't be in an evolving mutation. Absolute zero means no movement. No movement means no change... no mutation.

Evolution is a hoax.

However even if everything is in motion, what matters is the cause/causes of all the motions and you can't prove or show all the causes of all the motions, can you? True randomness exists, at least it's just the way quantum mechanics works. It may seem a bit unsatifactory to just have to accept the randomness, but remember that quantum mechanics is only a mathematical model - one that so far successfully describes the universe we see around us. All mathematical models are based on some assumptions, and the randomness in making measurements is one of these assumptions. It's possible that some deeper model will be developed one day, and this model will explain why the randomness occurs. However there is no such model at the moment, nor even a hint of one.

Oh dear. You forgot to read the post you are replying to.

I don't have to prove the causes of all the motions. It is sufficient to show that all the motions have causes, which is something that Newton proved with his 3rd law.

If you want to start to prove evolution, you have to find at least one effect that doesn't have a cause.

Quantum anything is simply complex probability. Probability indicates that we don't know. If we knew, we wouldn't need probability to attempt to find out. We wouldn't need quantum. Quantum takes into account C&E. It doesn't ever leave C&E behind. That is the reason it is as successful as it is. But its proof is in the engineering of whatever model quantum shows us.

The thing that this tells us is that evolution is something that we don't know to have fact behind it. There is no engineering to back up any evolution quantum model that might be in existence. The probability of evolution in this form or in that form cancels itself out. The quantum models might be there. Now let's find some engineering that can prove which quantum model is most or absolutely correct. Since evolution hasn't been proven, we don't know that it is correct. When we look at the things that oppose it, we find that evolution can't be real, no matter how many quantum possibilities exist.

Evolution is a hoax.
Astargath is a hoax.

[BADecker]

You still haven't shown proof that everything has a cause, though.

Sure I have.

You forget...

Everything is moving in the universe, because absolute zero is not quite attainable.

Movement means action.

Action means existence of reaction - Newton's 3rd Law.

This means that there is cause and effect in everything, which means there are programmed changes, not random mutations like Evolution theory says.

However, if absolute zero were attained somewhere in the universe, it wouldn't be in an evolving mutation. Absolute zero means no movement. No movement means no change... no mutation.

Evolution is a hoax.

what makes you think that everything that's alive you can touch and hold?..

What makes you think that I think that? Blah, blah, blah, blab, blab, blab. You say nothing.

[BADecker]

Why do I have to prove this? Remember, it is you who are embracing evolution. Prove that there is even one causeless effect.

Radioactive decay

No proof. But examples of the opposite, which I have already shown you.

Evolution is a hoax.
Astargath is a hoax.

Radioactive decay is studied by the brightest minds, they have concluded that it is indeed truly random.  You don't need any outside influence to get the isotope to decay. The decay is random just like (almost) all other Quantum Mechanical phenomena.

excatly right. dawkins told us to believe this new type of advanced science which is the proff of millions of years old fossils and their age being true

So, Dawkins is one of the high priests of your religion. Believe him, or believe fact. Take your pick.

Evolution is a hoax.

[ichsan ardi]

Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE

its just a theory, not a fact. and even darwin himself doubt of his own theory.. So, dont think to hard about it dude

[Vod]

Poor BD - it's Santa's birthday today and he is in a fetal position, rocking back and forth chanting "evolution is a hoax".

This is what happens when you spend high school high as a kite. 

[popcorn1]

You still haven't shown proof that everything has a cause, though.

Sure I have.

You forget...

Everything is moving in the universe, because absolute zero is not quite attainable.

Movement means action.

Action means existence of reaction - Newton's 3rd Law.

This means that there is cause and effect in everything, which means there are programmed changes, not random mutations like Evolution theory says.

However, if absolute zero were attained somewhere in the universe, it wouldn't be in an evolving mutation. Absolute zero means no movement. No movement means no change... no mutation.

Evolution is a hoax.

what makes you think that everything that's alive you can touch and hold?..

What makes you think that I think that? Blah, blah, blah, blab, blab, blab. You say nothing.

Because that's all you think and that's that ..

[Astargath]

You still haven't shown proof that everything has a cause, though.

Sure I have.

You forget...

Everything is moving in the universe, because absolute zero is not quite attainable.

Movement means action.

Action means existence of reaction - Newton's 3rd Law.

This means that there is cause and effect in everything, which means there are programmed changes, not random mutations like Evolution theory says.

However, if absolute zero were attained somewhere in the universe, it wouldn't be in an evolving mutation. Absolute zero means no movement. No movement means no change... no mutation.

Evolution is a hoax.

However even if everything is in motion, what matters is the cause/causes of all the motions and you can't prove or show all the causes of all the motions, can you? True randomness exists, at least it's just the way quantum mechanics works. It may seem a bit unsatifactory to just have to accept the randomness, but remember that quantum mechanics is only a mathematical model - one that so far successfully describes the universe we see around us. All mathematical models are based on some assumptions, and the randomness in making measurements is one of these assumptions. It's possible that some deeper model will be developed one day, and this model will explain why the randomness occurs. However there is no such model at the moment, nor even a hint of one.

Oh dear. You forgot to read the post you are replying to.

I don't have to prove the causes of all the motions. It is sufficient to show that all the motions have causes, which is something that Newton proved with his 3rd law.

If you want to start to prove evolution, you have to find at least one effect that doesn't have a cause.

Quantum anything is simply complex probability. Probability indicates that we don't know. If we knew, we wouldn't need probability to attempt to find out. We wouldn't need quantum. Quantum takes into account C&E. It doesn't ever leave C&E behind. That is the reason it is as successful as it is. But its proof is in the engineering of whatever model quantum shows us.

The thing that this tells us is that evolution is something that we don't know to have fact behind it. There is no engineering to back up any evolution quantum model that might be in existence. The probability of evolution in this form or in that form cancels itself out. The quantum models might be there. Now let's find some engineering that can prove which quantum model is most or absolutely correct. Since evolution hasn't been proven, we don't know that it is correct. When we look at the things that oppose it, we find that evolution can't be real, no matter how many quantum possibilities exist.

Evolution is a hoax.
Astargath is a hoax.

''It is sufficient to show that all the motions have causes, which is something that Newton proved with his 3rd law.'' No it's not. Where does newton 3rd law say that all motions have causes? You don't even know what the law says, do you? For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. (FOR EVERY ACTION) meaning that IF there is an action or cause then there is a reaction or effect. Thats only IF not that everything has a cause, nowhere in the law it says that everything has a cause. You are a dishonest liar.

[IL.Guerreiro]

Unintentionally a read an article in the internet last year (I forgot the site)  about how Darwin made up a story about this theory of evolution providing the made up story and fake evidences.

[Vod]

Unintentionally a read an article in the internet last year (I forgot the site)  about how Darwin made up a story about this theory of evolution providing the made up story and fake evidences.

You were sleeping at the time and it was a dream.

[BADecker]

Unintentionally a read an article in the internet last year (I forgot the site)  about how Darwin made up a story about this theory of evolution providing the made up story and fake evidences.

You were sleeping at the time and it was a dream.

In this case, the dream was right.   

[tantimutz]

In my own opinion, evolution is a hoax because of my religious beliefs. I believe that it is God who directly and immediately creates man in his own form, and not through different species.

[Vod]

Unintentionally a read an article in the internet last year (I forgot the site)  about how Darwin made up a story about this theory of evolution providing the made up story and fake evidences.

You were sleeping at the time and it was a dream.

In this case, the dream was right.   

Really?  Do you have a link where Darwin claims to have made up everything?

Or do you just believe anything you read?  

[BADecker]

Unintentionally a read an article in the internet last year (I forgot the site)  about how Darwin made up a story about this theory of evolution providing the made up story and fake evidences.

You were sleeping at the time and it was a dream.

In this case, the dream was right.   

Really?  Do you have a link where Darwin claims to have made up everything?

Or do you just believe anything you read?  

We were talking about the dream, and I was trusting that you had done your research into the dream.

[Vod]

We were talking about the dream, and I was trusting that you had done your research into the dream.

Trust I had done research into someone else's thoughts?

I'm not religious - I'm not gullible.  I vet things people write to me. 

[BADecker]

We were talking about the dream, and I was trusting that you had done your research into the dream.

Trust I had done research into someone else's thoughts?

I'm not religious - I'm not gullible.  I vet things people write to me. 

Oh dear. I made a mistake thinking that you were the responsible type.

[Vod]

We were talking about the dream, and I was trusting that you had done your research into the dream.

Trust I had done research into someone else's thoughts?

I'm not religious - I'm not gullible.  I vet things people write to me. 

Oh dear. I made a mistake thinking that you were the responsible type.

Well, learn from your mistakes.     I'm not going to waste any time analyzing a fairy tale dream.

[BADecker]

We were talking about the dream, and I was trusting that you had done your research into the dream.

Trust I had done research into someone else's thoughts?

I'm not religious - I'm not gullible.  I vet things people write to me. 

Oh dear. I made a mistake thinking that you were the responsible type.

Well, learn from your mistakes.     I'm not going to waste any time analyzing a fairy tale dream.

Yeah. If I had looked at your avatar, I would have realized...

 

[Vod]

We were talking about the dream, and I was trusting that you had done your research into the dream.

Trust I had done research into someone else's thoughts?

I'm not religious - I'm not gullible.  I vet things people write to me. 

Oh dear. I made a mistake thinking that you were the responsible type.

Well, learn from your mistakes.     I'm not going to waste any time analyzing a fairy tale dream.

Yeah. If I had looked at your avatar, I would have realized...

 

Realized what?  I worship the reality that gives us life, while you worship a fairy tale?  I have been posting that for months...  :/

[BADecker]

We were talking about the dream, and I was trusting that you had done your research into the dream.

Trust I had done research into someone else's thoughts?

I'm not religious - I'm not gullible.  I vet things people write to me. 

Oh dear. I made a mistake thinking that you were the responsible type.

Well, learn from your mistakes.     I'm not going to waste any time analyzing a fairy tale dream.

Yeah. If I had looked at your avatar, I would have realized...

 

Realized what?  I worship the reality that gives us life, while you worship a fairy tale?  I have been posting that for months...  :/

I looked at your avatar this time. LOL.

 

[Vod]

We were talking about the dream, and I was trusting that you had done your research into the dream.

Trust I had done research into someone else's thoughts?

I'm not religious - I'm not gullible.  I vet things people write to me. 

Oh dear. I made a mistake thinking that you were the responsible type.

Well, learn from your mistakes.     I'm not going to waste any time analyzing a fairy tale dream.

Yeah. If I had looked at your avatar, I would have realized...

 

Realized what?  I worship the reality that gives us life, while you worship a fairy tale?  I have been posting that for months...  :/

I looked at your avatar this time. LOL.

 

So it took you this long to realize I'm not brainwashed?