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So now we are back to cause and effect? Evolution does fit cause and effect because as you said god has no cause therefore everything he did is random.
Again, you show your deceptiveness. Just because we don't know much about the nature of God, doesn't mean that He doesn't use cause and effect, even if He, Himself, had no cause. It doesn't mean that He doesn't use random, either. But nature shows that random doesn't exist within it, simply by the fact that nature's cause was God. And since god has no cause it renders everything random unless you now claim god has a cause. If the cause of everything is ultimately a causeless cause then everything is truly random. God having no cause is simply something that shows that God is outside of the universe. C&E is a universe thing. But you are not following the logic. Say a computer has a cause, the human that made it and the human itself has a cause and so on until god which is the cause of everything, right? However because god has no cause, as you claim, that makes everything else random in the sense that everything was created randomly by something with no cause. It doesn't matter that the computer had a cause because ultimately what made the computer exist in the first place is something without a cause therefore random. That's why evolution exists because mutations are essentially random. Why do you assume randomness? It's not logical to say that something outside of the universe necessarily follows or doesn't follows laws - has or doesn't have randomness - but certainly not laws of the universe. If it were the laws of the universe that it followed, it would be part of the universe. The closest that we easily, scientifically see within the universe, that doesn't follow the laws of the universe as we know them, is "nothing." We don't really know what the laws of empty space - nothing - are. We understand all kinds of laws regarding the material and energy that exist within the empty space of the universe. But the laws of the empty space itself have not been clearly defined. If someone does know, he isn't expressing it very well. How much less can we understand if God, outside of the universe altogether, has laws or not, and what they might be, except when He reveals them to us? You claimed god has no cause, though, didn't you? If something has no cause it means is random, I'm not assuming anything, I'm simply following your logic. What caused the random and what effect did it have?.. Has anyone fell over?..So why did you fall over if no random..But we know people fall over.. We know things evolve but just like falling over that's how the random works.. I am not telling you Astargath i am just adding to get it into badeckers head.. I don't know, badecker just doesn't make much sense anymore, he is now just desperately trying to hold his position. First, he argued evolution is impossible because some things show that it is impossible. I debunked them. Then he said that because everything has a cause, mutations cannot be random so I said, if everything has a cause then we are just going to have infinite regression, this has a cause, this cause has a cause and so on for infinity and it doesn't solve anything. Then he said that ''god'' which he claims is the creator of everything actually has no cause, which violates his whole argument of ''everything has a cause''. If his argument is based on everything having a cause then he is actually saying that evolution is true because he said himself that there is something without a cause and furthermore that ''something'' caused everything, rendering everything random intrinsically. I'm honored, that you think enough of me and my points to consider me like this. However, it makes you look awfully foolish to have to consider me rather than the topic. And especially when you are making me look like some kind of a professionally thinker that has made a mistake. Your dependence on me is amazing. But, I guess it's all you have since... Evolution has been proven to be a hoax.
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December 31, 2017, 11:14:38 PM |
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So now we are back to cause and effect? Evolution does fit cause and effect because as you said god has no cause therefore everything he did is random.
Again, you show your deceptiveness. Just because we don't know much about the nature of God, doesn't mean that He doesn't use cause and effect, even if He, Himself, had no cause. It doesn't mean that He doesn't use random, either. But nature shows that random doesn't exist within it, simply by the fact that nature's cause was God. And since god has no cause it renders everything random unless you now claim god has a cause. If the cause of everything is ultimately a causeless cause then everything is truly random. God having no cause is simply something that shows that God is outside of the universe. C&E is a universe thing. But you are not following the logic. Say a computer has a cause, the human that made it and the human itself has a cause and so on until god which is the cause of everything, right? However because god has no cause, as you claim, that makes everything else random in the sense that everything was created randomly by something with no cause. It doesn't matter that the computer had a cause because ultimately what made the computer exist in the first place is something without a cause therefore random. That's why evolution exists because mutations are essentially random. Why do you assume randomness? It's not logical to say that something outside of the universe necessarily follows or doesn't follows laws - has or doesn't have randomness - but certainly not laws of the universe. If it were the laws of the universe that it followed, it would be part of the universe. The closest that we easily, scientifically see within the universe, that doesn't follow the laws of the universe as we know them, is "nothing." We don't really know what the laws of empty space - nothing - are. We understand all kinds of laws regarding the material and energy that exist within the empty space of the universe. But the laws of the empty space itself have not been clearly defined. If someone does know, he isn't expressing it very well. How much less can we understand if God, outside of the universe altogether, has laws or not, and what they might be, except when He reveals them to us? You claimed god has no cause, though, didn't you? If something has no cause it means is random, I'm not assuming anything, I'm simply following your logic. What caused the random and what effect did it have?.. Has anyone fell over?..So why did you fall over if no random..But we know people fall over.. We know things evolve but just like falling over that's how the random works.. I am not telling you Astargath i am just adding to get it into badeckers head.. I don't know, badecker just doesn't make much sense anymore, he is now just desperately trying to hold his position. First, he argued evolution is impossible because some things show that it is impossible. I debunked them. Then he said that because everything has a cause, mutations cannot be random so I said, if everything has a cause then we are just going to have infinite regression, this has a cause, this cause has a cause and so on for infinity and it doesn't solve anything. Then he said that ''god'' which he claims is the creator of everything actually has no cause, which violates his whole argument of ''everything has a cause''. If his argument is based on everything having a cause then he is actually saying that evolution is true because he said himself that there is something without a cause and furthermore that ''something'' caused everything, rendering everything random intrinsically. I'm honored, that you think enough of me and my points to consider me like this. However, it makes you look awfully foolish to have to consider me rather than the topic. And especially when you are making me look like some kind of a professionally thinker that has made a mistake. Your dependence on me is amazing. But, I guess it's all you have since... Evolution has been proven to be a hoax. Yeah, that doesn't really respond to what I said. Happy new year badecker.
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January 01, 2018, 09:34:45 AM |
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Yeah evolution is a hoax. The only thing real is our god. Lets kill everyone who doesn't believe in our god. You live what you've learned. If you learn and observe enough you'll find the proof of evolution yourself. But if you live in an oppressive society, its hard to make you believe.
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January 01, 2018, 10:49:05 AM |
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The most read New Atlas stories of 2017This year our top science and technology news stories ranged from ancient death traps and otherworldly weapons to anti-aging breakthroughs and mega-aircraft. Read on to see what captured the imagination of you, our readers, in 2017.
100x faster, 10x cheaper: 3D metal printing is about to go mainstream
Desktop Metal – remember the name. This Massachussetts company is preparing to turn manufacturing on its head, with a 3D metal printing system that's so much faster, safer and cheaper than existing systems that it's going to compete with traditional mass manufacturing processes.
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Simulation suggests 68 percent of the universe may not actually exist
According to the Lambda Cold Dark Matter (Lambda-CDM) model, which is the current accepted standard for how the universe began and evolved, the ordinary matter we encounter every day only makes up around five percent of the universe's density, with dark matter comprising 27 percent, and the remaining 68 percent made up of dark energy, a so-far theoretical force driving the expansion of the universe. But a new study has questioned whether dark energy exists at all, citing computer simulations that found that by accounting for the changing structure of the cosmos, the gap in the theory, which dark energy was proposed to fill, vanishes.
Full story Read more at https://newatlas.com/2017-science-tech-news/52714/. Simulation suggests 68 percent of the universe may not actually exist..<BULLSHIT Example ..If i smash a rock and throw all the bits in space the bits will expand into the universe?.. Are we now saying the nothing is expanding and if the nothing is expanding then what is it expanding into more NOTHING? .. The universe has no ending otherwise will we hit the side or the bottom of the universe one day?.. Simulation suggests 68 percent of the universe may not actually exist. So how do you measure infinity so to say 68% of the universe may not exist is bullshit.. It's like having 68% of nothing . Do you want half of this nothing .. Get a tape measure and measure 68% of this wall but the wall goes on forever how will you know when to stop measuring to get to the point of 68% of the wall?.. So i thinks they need to get back to the drawing board and thinks again ..
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January 01, 2018, 11:54:44 PM Last edit: January 02, 2018, 12:08:50 AM by BADecker |
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300,000-year-old skulls that look shockingly like ours could rewrite the human origin storyBut new evidence outlined in two papers published in the journal Nature challenges that hypothesis. Instead, the authors describe recently discovered remains that suggest the first Homo sapiens showed up more than 100,000 years earlier than we thought in a place many experts didn't suspect.
The fossils could represent the earliest known examples of H. sapiens ever found (if confirmed by further research), and they serve as evidence that members of our species lived beyond sub-Saharan Africa.
In 1961, a crew of miners was plowing into a dense wall of limestone in a hilly region west of Marrakesh when they struck a soft patch. The hardened beige surface gave way to a mound of cinnamon-colored dirt. Peeking out of the earth was a sliver of human skull. Read more and watch the video at http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/archaeology/skulls-found-morocco-human-origins-discover-archaeology-a8047906.html.Evolution is a hoax.
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January 02, 2018, 12:16:21 AM |
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Bronze Age research appears to be headed toward an astonishing discovery Heck, I couldn’t even pronounce the word and didn’t even know how to say “hello” in Swedish, when I stepped off the ferry in Landskrona. You see . . . at the time, we did not even have diplomatic relations with Sweden because of the anger by the Swedish government over Richard Nixon’s orders to invade Cambodia and Laos and the use of anti-personnel bombs on Vietnamese civilians, which contained mica flakes that could not be detected by xrays. It was identical to a scene in Mission Impossible . . . I mean IDENTICAL.
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As fate would have it, my job was in the heart of the ancient Scandinavian Bronze Age Civilization . . . which was not even mentioned in the textbooks I had used in college. The rest of Scandinavia’s history was barely mentioned. Read more at https://globalwarming-arclein.blogspot.ca/2017/09/update-bronze-age-research-appears-to.html.Evolution is a hoax.
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January 02, 2018, 12:20:50 AM |
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Were Modern Humans in Indonesia 73,000 Years Ago?The old school timeline, still widely taught, went something like this: Homo sapiens evolved into a distinct species from earlier hominins about 200,000 years ago in Africa and became anatomically modern humans (AMHs) about 100,000 years ago. Then, around 50,000 years ago, the AMHs headed out of Africa and spread through Eurasia, interbreeding with (and eventually replacing) Neanderthals and Denisovans. Read more at https://globalwarming-arclein.blogspot.ca/2017/08/were-modern-humans-in-indonesia-73000.html.Evolution is a hoax.
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January 02, 2018, 12:35:12 AM |
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Ancient Technology So Advanced We Still Don't Understand It Where did these out of place items come from? Would members of an advanced civilization, from say 10-15,000 years in the past, have simply stayed in one locale, or would they have moved out across the globe, taking their technology with them? Generally, we can suppose that the technology of highly advanced civilizations would tend to become widespread.
It follows in turn that we would expect to find evidence of their technology all over the planet. We will show many artifacts from antiquity which challenge our preconceptions about our predecessors' technology and level of scientific knowledge. Specializing in the ancient Sumerian culture, Sumer's advanced technology, and the evidence for ancient astronauts. Ancient Technology So Advanced We Still Don't Understand It
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKYt3AvPGrIEvolution is a hoax.
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January 02, 2018, 12:53:11 AM |
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Homo NalediBerger was overseeing a team of 60 people, some of whom were 18 meters below ground gathering fossils. "This was day two. Lives were in danger. This was the beginning of my hair turning really white," says Berger, of the University of the Witwatersrand in Johannesburg, South Africa. "I said 'No, and don't tell anyone. I don't want anyone distracted.'" Read more at http://globalwarming-arclein.blogspot.ca/2017/05/homo-naledi.html.Evolution is a hoax.
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January 02, 2018, 01:13:11 AM |
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A format for how evolution is made to seem real.
DNA scientists claim that Cherokees are from the Middle EastIn 1976 the North Carolina state government directed a team of professors to prove that the Cherokees had been in their state for at least 1000 years. It was called the North Carolina History Project. The archaeologists and historians justified their bonus paychecks by dutifully re-labeling all Native American archeological sites in the western third of the state as "Cherokee" or "Proto-Cherokee." The widespread Creek Indian place names were re-labeled "ancient Cherokee words whose meanings have been lost." Read more at http://globalwarming-arclein.blogspot.ca/2017/02/dna-scientists-claim-that-cherokees-are.html.Evolution is a hoax.
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January 02, 2018, 01:56:39 AM |
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Floridians And Mastodons Once CoexistedYou can disparage Florida Man all you'd like, but you'll likely agree that this more than 14,000 year-old Florida man is something to marvel at.
About 30 miles from Tallahassee, at an archaeological site known as Page-Ladson, archaeologists dove down about 30 feet deep into a sinkhole at the bottom of the Aucilla River in Florida. And it paid off. There they found bones and tools that showed the area may have been where early occupiers of what came to be known as America hunted mastodon about 14,550 years ago. That's right, a Florida man once roamed the land with Mastodon.
The site is a rare pre-Clovis site, which means they were a people that pre-date the Clovis people (a prehistoric Native American culture). Read more at https://www.popsci.com/floridians-and-mastodons-once-coexisted.Evolution is a hoax.
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January 02, 2018, 10:32:04 AM |
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Are you trying to prove the bible and your god are false? ''300,000-year-old skulls'' So you admit that 300k years ago life/earth/universe existed. Thanks for confirming that the bible is a hoax
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January 02, 2018, 12:08:49 PM |
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Graecopithecus freybergi..<<And he also believes we come from ape .. The ape moved to Africa because Europe was to cold then over time the human evolved from the ape after the ape moved to Africa to become a human being . And that's why an ape is hairy EUROPEAN ape to keep it warm .. Then over time the human come and lost loads of hair because it was warm in Africa so no need for to much hair.. Then the human like beings killed the apes they come from for food because the had a drought and was hungry.. YES BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW
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January 02, 2018, 12:54:18 PM |
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Ancient Technology So Advanced We Still Don't Understand It Where did these out of place items come from? Would members of an advanced civilization, from say 10-15,000 years in the past, have simply stayed in one locale, or would they have moved out across the globe, taking their technology with them? Generally, we can suppose that the technology of highly advanced civilizations would tend to become widespread.
It follows in turn that we would expect to find evidence of their technology all over the planet. We will show many artifacts from antiquity which challenge our preconceptions about our predecessors' technology and level of scientific knowledge. Specializing in the ancient Sumerian culture, Sumer's advanced technology, and the evidence for ancient astronauts. Ancient Technology So Advanced We Still Don't Understand It
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKYt3AvPGrIEvolution is a hoax. Ancient Technology So Advanced We Still Don't Understand It.. I DO .. It's made for idiots like you Badecker it's made of plastic Nothing ancient about it.. ..The way you think is ANCIENT.. Watch out you might fall off the end of the earth..
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