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August 25, 2017, 09:51:54 AM
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DGB is around 220 (top diff ever) to 450/per card.
So still DGB can be most profitable, but it depends on luck factor on pool, time to sell etc.

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August 25, 2017, 10:26:59 AM
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Since Vega isn't competitive... 18 more 1080tis!

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Inno3D twin X2 cards, $680 usd each. Each card comes with Destiny 2, a mousepad, and 3dmark/vrmark too.

Assuming worst case scenario, a 80% crypto crash, the cards can be resold for at least $550 usd each in the bank. $130 at risk per GPU. A little over a month to recoup the $130 at risk.

Ps: If anyone wants to buy the Destiny 2 code for $20, pm me. Note the code is region limited.

* This promotion is available for Hong Kong, Thailand, Vietnam, Philippines, Indonesia and Taiwan only. For other region, please check with NVIDIA website for the valid resellers / etailers.

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August 25, 2017, 10:55:27 AM
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DGB is around 220 (top diff ever) to 450/per card.
So still DGB can be most profitable, but it depends on luck factor on pool, time to sell etc.

how can you reach 450 per day / card ??

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August 25, 2017, 10:59:10 AM
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DGB is around 220 (top diff ever) to 450/per card.
So still DGB can be most profitable, but it depends on luck factor on pool, time to sell etc.

how can you reach 450 per day / card ??
100% TDP, +150cc, leave mem clock, cross fingers that diff in 24h will not spike hard.
It really depends on day, in some (DGB 0.025$) I was getting 450 DGB from 2 cards. At peaks (DGB 0.008$) I've got nearly 900 for 2.
More miners = less coins.

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August 25, 2017, 11:10:55 AM
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Do you think DGB will reach next month more than 5cent?
Because of the Citibank award?

                                 
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August 25, 2017, 11:13:58 AM
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Well, Citibank awards are main DGB topic from june... So I really don't know, I think that DGB can potentialy be at .1$ end of this year, but in crypto - everything can happen.
It's good choice to leave some (~10-15%) of coins at wallet, to let it grow in price.
But DGB chart dont look promising enough for .05$ in September. But ANYTHING could happen Smiley

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August 25, 2017, 12:10:24 PM
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60-70 per day per card

Are you using ccminer?
Which TDP, clock, temp you have?
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August 25, 2017, 12:23:00 PM
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Im getting 4000 dgb in 24 h with 11x gtx 1080ti and 5xGtx 1070s...

Could get to 5k 24 h... Not worth. My tdp is at 200w and oc +100 - 500mem

                                 
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August 25, 2017, 12:48:50 PM
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Something has happened -I cannot seem to get DGB skein Alexis miner at the regular speed of 900mh/s with my 1080ti

My 1080 was running at 600-630 but the 1080ti is 750-800 max.


What's changed? I did clean driver installation and nada?!
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Something has happened -I cannot seem to get DGB skein Alexis miner at the regular speed of 900mh/s with my 1080ti

My 1080 was running at 600-630 but the 1080ti is 750-800 max.


What's changed? I did clean driver installation and nada?!
Which drivers are You using?
I suggest You to download latest CUDA from Nvidia, and install drivers from it - the new drivers don't work in my 1080ti rig.

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Something has happened -I cannot seem to get DGB skein Alexis miner at the regular speed of 900mh/s with my 1080ti

My 1080 was running at 600-630 but the 1080ti is 750-800 max.


What's changed? I did clean driver installation and nada?!
Which drivers are You using?
I suggest You to download latest CUDA from Nvidia, and install drivers from it - the new drivers don't work in my 1080ti rig.


It's 385.41 ?  it was latest downloaded via nVidia's website.

So strange. I always used to get close to 940-950 mh/s now i'm at 700s
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Something has happened -I cannot seem to get DGB skein Alexis miner at the regular speed of 900mh/s with my 1080ti

My 1080 was running at 600-630 but the 1080ti is 750-800 max.


What's changed? I did clean driver installation and nada?!
Which drivers are You using?
I suggest You to download latest CUDA from Nvidia, and install drivers from it - the new drivers don't work in my 1080ti rig.


It's 385.41 ?  it was latest downloaded via nVidia's website.

So strange. I always used to get close to 940-950 mh/s now i'm at 700s

Downgrade to previous drivers
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August 25, 2017, 12:58:49 PM
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Something has happened -I cannot seem to get DGB skein Alexis miner at the regular speed of 900mh/s with my 1080ti

My 1080 was running at 600-630 but the 1080ti is 750-800 max.


What's changed? I did clean driver installation and nada?!
Which drivers are You using?
I suggest You to download latest CUDA from Nvidia, and install drivers from it - the new drivers don't work in my 1080ti rig.


It's 385.41 ?  it was latest downloaded via nVidia's website.

So strange. I always used to get close to 940-950 mh/s now i'm at 700s
This one don't work for me, I'm using one included in cuda toolkit (382.xx)

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Something has happened -I cannot seem to get DGB skein Alexis miner at the regular speed of 900mh/s with my 1080ti

My 1080 was running at 600-630 but the 1080ti is 750-800 max.


What's changed? I did clean driver installation and nada?!
Which drivers are You using?
I suggest You to download latest CUDA from Nvidia, and install drivers from it - the new drivers don't work in my 1080ti rig.


It's 385.41 ?  it was latest downloaded via nVidia's website.

So strange. I always used to get close to 940-950 mh/s now i'm at 700s
This one don't work for me, I'm using one included in cuda toolkit (382.xx)



GPU#0:GeForce GTX 1080 Ti, 922.16MH/s
[2017-08-25 09:19:04] GPU#0:GeForce GTX 1080 Ti, 4.4MH/W, 0.53MH/Mhz
[2017-08-25 09:19:04] GPU#0:GeForce GTX 1080 Ti, 69C(F:71%) 1753/5005MHz(211W)

It worked- had to reinstall the miners lol Deleted the entire miner folder and unzipped the folder and boom. Back over 900 lol
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August 25, 2017, 01:09:53 PM
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60-70 per day per card

Are you using ccminer?
Which TDP, clock, temp you have?

I don't think this is accurate. You're probably looking at more like 50-55 coins per day per card at best based on my last week's stats. Admittedly I run at 80% power cap, but only lose about 2MH per card for doing this.
Core +200
Memory - 500
Fan sits around 50%, with the cards running at 74-75 degrees

This is with tpruvot's latest ccminer 32bit release and latest drivers installed
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August 25, 2017, 01:18:49 PM
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60-70 per day per card

Are you using ccminer?
Which TDP, clock, temp you have?

I don't think this is accurate. You're probably looking at more like 50-55 coins per day per card at best based on my last week's stats. Admittedly I run at 80% power cap, but only lose about 2MH per card for doing this.
Core +200
Memory - 500
Fan sits around 50%, with the cards running at 74-75 degrees

This is with tpruvot's latest ccminer 32bit release and latest drivers installed

Did you tried 64bit version?
Is it stable?
Mine crash.
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August 25, 2017, 01:20:54 PM
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60-70 per day per card

Are you using ccminer?
Which TDP, clock, temp you have?

I don't think this is accurate. You're probably looking at more like 50-55 coins per day per card at best based on my last week's stats. Admittedly I run at 80% power cap, but only lose about 2MH per card for doing this.
Core +200
Memory - 500
Fan sits around 50%, with the cards running at 74-75 degrees

This is with tpruvot's latest ccminer 32bit release and latest drivers installed

Did you tried 64bit version?
Is it stable?
Mine crash.

I use 32bit it's better and faster

                                 
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August 25, 2017, 01:26:58 PM
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btw just another observation.

With 1080 doing it's mining I can watch youtube videos. 1440p works fine.

With 1080ti - my 1440p videos stop working without buffering over and over again .

Maybe it leaves nothing on the table while mining ? compared to 1080?
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August 25, 2017, 01:34:31 PM
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Don't know why You have such issues. Did you swap file size = card memory ? I'm running 100gb swap/4go ram for 5 1080ti, still computer is pretty usable, 2 staking nodes, storj 1tb share, web browser, sometimes HOMM3, when I'm bored and have only my smartphone nearby.

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August 25, 2017, 02:02:10 PM
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I've got an MSI 1080 Ti that I can barely get above 250 H/s in equihash.  Similar issues across other algos.  I've got 16x Tis from different manufacturers and this is the first one to give me issues.  Should this be RMA'd?  I've tried:

--hard uninstall/reinstall of drivers
--swapping board slots
--swapping riser cards/cables
--current and previously stable drivers

The card is currently set at 100% power/+25 gpu/+300 mem and it is consistently pulling at ~45% power.  It shares the rig with two other 1070 GTXs running at 65% power with no issues.  Power draw from the wall is not an issue.  1200W PSU.
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