[ANN][YAC] yacoin: yet another altcoin. START is now.

[Fernandez]

Noob question - can I use Pentium 4s for this?

I have two Core i3s on the case; but I have a few Pentium 4 PCs lying around. Wondering whether I can make use of them.

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[p00chie]

yay. after finally managing to get my userrights (and some coffee to calm me down)
i managed to compile it but after starting the daemon i get:

root@ubuntu:~/yacoin/src# ./yacoind -daemon -gen -addnode=82.211.30.212
YaCoin server starting
YaCoin: Error initializing database environment /root/.yacoin! To recover, BACKUP THAT DIRECTORY, then remove everything from it except for wallet.dat.

What could be the problem?
deleting the directory won't change the error

Some debugging info:
ERROR: CDB() : error Invalid argument (22) opening database environment
BDB0055 illegal flag specified to DB_ENV->open

[kalgecin]

try
./yacoind listtransactions
to see what you've got so far....

Thanks, but it was the first in the list above and it is empty.

Then you haven't got a thing not even an orphan

[Wolf Rainer]

[kalgecin]

lol  people want to mine coins and complain that their antivirus detects a "coin miner" 
what did you expect it to say? LOL!!

[kalgecin]

Bullshit.

Check the target time per block.

If the starting difficulty has been designed to ensure the first few miners rake in blocks way faster than the target time, then you are not witness to the fact no pre-mine happened, you are in fact participating in pre-mining.

The whole scam is to deliberately use insanely low difficulty so that in very short time a huge pre-mine will be accomplished by those few people who get in on the pre-mine.

Once the difficulty reaches target, then maybe normal mining rather than pre-mining commences.

The start difficulty should be high enough that blocks will take far LONGER than target time UNLESS many miners get in on it.

Instead though the scammers deliberately set it way too low, so that an entire massive pre-mine can take place EVEN IF plenty of miners get in on it.

By recruiting miners into the pre-mine scam, they hope to basically bribe them into colluding with them in pulling off a huge pre-mine right in front of everyone's eyes.

-MarkM-

I'm fairly new to the cryptocoin game.  Could you highlight some coins that DIDN'T do this on launch?  (Seems all the recent ones have, so I'm curious)

I don't recall ever hearing that Bitcoin did. The starting difficulty of bitcoin was high enough that testnet needed to be 1/16 the difficulty of main net in order for small numbers of machines to be able to do tests, because with the normal net's difficulty it would take more machines than testers usually used, or something like that.

There is no need to guess, doubt or be uninformed on the topic. All cryptocoins have blockchain, publicly visible database of all transactions that ever happened and there are block times
written for anyone to check them at any time. Bitcoin blockchain reveals it is by far the most properly launched cryptocoin. Start with the genesis block and check times for blocks after it.
It can be seen blocks were being found around 10 minutes appart on average which is desired Bitcoin block time, so no bullshits there:

http://blockexplorer.com/testnet/block/000000000933ea01ad0ee984209779baaec3ced90fa3f408719526f8d77f4943

that's a testnet block!! http://blockexplorer.com/block/000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f is the first block

[LOG123]

Well people we should leave this be, with a bit of luck this coin will never even make it to an exchange and will discourage further sloppy releases of crypto currencies......

[XRcode]

Config file:

addnode=80.82.69.232
rpcuser=what_Ever_You_Want
rpcpassword=1234
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rcpallowip=192.168.1.*
rpcport=8108
port=7688
daemon=1
server=1

[kalgecin]

Well people we should leave this be, with a bit of luck this coin will never even make it to an exchange and will discourage further sloppy releases of crypto currencies......

[e521]

Bullshit.

Check the target time per block.

If the starting difficulty has been designed to ensure the first few miners rake in blocks way faster than the target time, then you are not witness to the fact no pre-mine happened, you are in fact participating in pre-mining.

The whole scam is to deliberately use insanely low difficulty so that in very short time a huge pre-mine will be accomplished by those few people who get in on the pre-mine.

Once the difficulty reaches target, then maybe normal mining rather than pre-mining commences.

The start difficulty should be high enough that blocks will take far LONGER than target time UNLESS many miners get in on it.

Instead though the scammers deliberately set it way too low, so that an entire massive pre-mine can take place EVEN IF plenty of miners get in on it.

By recruiting miners into the pre-mine scam, they hope to basically bribe them into colluding with them in pulling off a huge pre-mine right in front of everyone's eyes.

-MarkM-

I'm fairly new to the cryptocoin game.  Could you highlight some coins that DIDN'T do this on launch?  (Seems all the recent ones have, so I'm curious)

I don't recall ever hearing that Bitcoin did. The starting difficulty of bitcoin was high enough that testnet needed to be 1/16 the difficulty of main net in order for small numbers of machines to be able to do tests, because with the normal net's difficulty it would take more machines than testers usually used, or something like that.

There is no need to guess, doubt or be uninformed on the topic. All cryptocoins have blockchain, publicly visible database of all transactions that ever happened and there are block times
written for anyone to check them at any time. Bitcoin blockchain reveals it is by far the most properly launched cryptocoin. Start with the genesis block and check times for blocks after it.
It can be seen blocks were being found around 10 minutes appart on average which is desired Bitcoin block time, so no bullshits there:

http://blockexplorer.com/testnet/block/000000000933ea01ad0ee984209779baaec3ced90fa3f408719526f8d77f4943

that's a testnet block!! http://blockexplorer.com/block/000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f is the first block

Correct, a mistake but all written above stays.

maybe bitcoin is the most properly launched because it had no fiat value at the time, things have changed quite a bit

[Kruncha]

Just playing around, feel free to use it.

K.

[p00chie]

Config file:

addnode=80.82.69.232
rpcuser=what_Ever_You_Want
rpcpassword=1234
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rcpallowip=192.168.1.*
rpcport=8108
port=7688
daemon=1
server=1

do you use it under linux?
i was able to start the server with this config and:
./yacoind -daemon -gen -addnode=82.211.30.212 -genproclimit=4

But i cannot check my server status with
root@ubuntu:~/yacoin/src# ./yacoind -getstatus
YaCoin server starting
root@ubuntu:~/yacoin/src# YaCoin: Unable to bind to 0.0.0.0:7688 on this computer. YaCoin is probably already running.
YaCoin: Failed to listen on any port. Use -listen=0 if you want this.

Who can i check my stats?

[xibeijan]

There's some bounties for 1000 YAK over at the YAC bounty thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=200311.0

[Brewins]

Well people we should leave this be, with a bit of luck this coin will never even make it to an exchange and will discourage further sloppy releases of crypto currencies......

[XRcode]

Config file:

addnode=80.82.69.232
rpcuser=what_Ever_You_Want
rpcpassword=1234
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rcpallowip=192.168.1.*
rpcport=8108
port=7688
daemon=1
server=1

do you use it under linux?
i was able to start the server with this config and:
./yacoind -daemon -gen -addnode=82.211.30.212 -genproclimit=4

But i cannot check my server status with
root@ubuntu:~/yacoin/src# ./yacoind -getstatus
YaCoin server starting
root@ubuntu:~/yacoin/src# YaCoin: Unable to bind to 0.0.0.0:7688 on this computer. YaCoin is probably already running.
YaCoin: Failed to listen on any port. Use -listen=0 if you want this.

Who can i check my stats?

try just ./yacoind getinfo
or ./yacoind listtransactions

[LOG123]

Still finding blocks on my Q6600

[p00chie]

Config file:

addnode=80.82.69.232
rpcuser=what_Ever_You_Want
rpcpassword=1234
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rcpallowip=192.168.1.*
rpcport=8108
port=7688
daemon=1
server=1

do you use it under linux?
i was able to start the server with this config and:
./yacoind -daemon -gen -addnode=82.211.30.212 -genproclimit=4

But i cannot check my server status with
root@ubuntu:~/yacoin/src# ./yacoind -getstatus
YaCoin server starting
root@ubuntu:~/yacoin/src# YaCoin: Unable to bind to 0.0.0.0:7688 on this computer. YaCoin is probably already running.
YaCoin: Failed to listen on any port. Use -listen=0 if you want this.

Who can i check my stats?

try just ./yacoind getinfo
or ./yacoind listtransactions

thx
getinfo and not status

[Neverest]

try
./yacoind listtransactions
to see what you've got so far....

Thanks, but it was the first in the list above and it is empty.

Then you haven't got a thing not even an orphan

Hooray, I got something! And it's an .... orphan
{
        "account" : "",
        "category" : "orphan",
        "amount" : 24.87000000,
        "confirmations" : 0,
        "generated" : true,
        "txid" : "82c018a5eb36ef792886520de4b929186fe92b2940510b21409d95f94560cf78",
        "time" : 1368185369,
        "timereceived" : 1368185371
    }
At least it seems I can keep it running as it seems to do something...

[Kruncha]

try
./yacoind listtransactions
to see what you've got so far....

Thanks, but it was the first in the list above and it is empty.

Then you haven't got a thing not even an orphan

Hooray, I got something! And it's an .... orphan
{
        "account" : "",
        "category" : "orphan",
        "amount" : 24.87000000,
        "confirmations" : 0,
        "generated" : true,
        "txid" : "82c018a5eb36ef792886520de4b929186fe92b2940510b21409d95f94560cf78",
        "time" : 1368185369,
        "timereceived" : 1368185371
    }
At least it seems I can keep it running as it seems to do something...

Me too, after 24 hours I finally get:
{
"account" : "",
"category" : "orphan",
"amount" : 24.84000000,
"confirmations" : 0,
"generated" : true,
"txid" : "e8d84b5f2a9624c5c03ce46f9368d97289d4b515e5e201d02540b6d71b8dc423",
"time" : 1368185837,
"timereceived" : 1368185838
}

Luck is not with me

K.

[Sondey10mg]

Still having problems here! Compiling went ok but can't open the yacoind!

compiling
.........
o obj/scrypt-x86_64.o obj/scrypt-jane.o -Wl,-z,relro -Wl,-z,now   -Wl,-Bdynamic -l boost_system -l boost_filesystem -l boost_program_options -l boost_thread -l db_cxx -l ssl -l crypto -l miniupnpc -Wl,-Bdynamic -l z -l dl -l pthread
ziggy@ubuntu:~/yacoin/src$ ./yacoind -daemon -gen -addnode=82.211.30.212
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::runtime_error'
  what():  locale::facet::_S_create_c_locale name not valid

What've I done wrong?