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Author Topic: [40+ PH] SlushPool (slushpool.com); World's First Mining Pool  (Read 3926681 times)
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April 05, 2011, 03:57:58 PM
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Yeahhhh im confused....
2861 2011-04-05 15:33:16 0:07:49 17885 0.07731319 -  invalid  
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Aside from that, Fuck slush's pool, Your completely favoring 24/7 miners, i hit stop,start as fast as humanly fucking possible and one of my shares goes completely invaild, After its already gone through 80 of the 120 confirmations

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April 05, 2011, 04:06:49 PM
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What's the situation with blocks such as #2861 in the "Block History" section of the BPM stats page where it shows "Block #" as 0 with an invalid blockexplorer.com link and lists the validity as "Confirmed" immediately?

Is that a real block, or a bug, or something else?  Is the reward for such blocks valid?

Looks like bug, but I never see it before. Now I'm not at home so I marked the block as invalid manually. From blockexplorer it looks like the block is ours, but I have to search logs and see what exactly happen. If block is really ours, I'll mark it as valid and distribute the reward for it, of course.

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April 05, 2011, 04:14:43 PM
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Your completely favoring 24/7 miners

That's your opinion. Excuse me, but I'm tired by explaining same things again for the same people who don't understand simple graphs.

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i hit stop,start as fast as humanly fucking possible and one of my shares goes completely invaild

How is invalid share related to score system? And why are you 'hitting stop and start as fast as humanly fucking possible'? Sorry, I had to miss something here.

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After its already gone through 80 of the 120 confirmations

Are you talking about block validations? Block is checked after next 90 blocks. If block is invalid, it's marked on stats page. Otherwise the reward is distributed after 100 confirmations.

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April 05, 2011, 04:16:54 PM
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Aside from that, Fuck slush's pool, Your completely favoring 24/7 miners, i hit stop,start as fast as humanly fucking possible and one of my shares goes completely invaild, After its already gone through 80 of the 120 confirmations

That's now how shares degrade. It's a function based on time, it doesn't matter if you are currently mining or not. Old shares used to be worth as much as new shares, but that allowed for some cheating. You could increase your payout by switching between multiple pools. Now that shares degrade over time, that method is not beneficial.

Why not just run your miner 24/7?
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April 05, 2011, 04:18:31 PM
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Looks like bug, but I never see it before. Now I'm not at home so I marked the block as invalid manually. From blockexplorer it looks like the block is ours, but I have to search logs and see what exactly happen. If block is really ours, I'll mark it as valid and distribute the reward for it, of course.
Strange indeed.  Thanks for the prompt reply.  Sounds about like my luck; I just start on this and within an hour bugs start popping up.  ;-)

And I have no idea what JackRabiit is talking about, although it sounds like he thinks that block being marked invalid had something to do with him specifically, as a result of him clicking "Stop" and "Start" quickly in succession?

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April 05, 2011, 09:38:13 PM
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If you want to script, you already have the information needed to determine the estimated reward from each miner account.  Take the sum of the scores for all your miners.  Then, for each miner, the estimated reward is (estimated_reward * (miner_score / total_score)).

yes, thanks, that will do.

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April 05, 2011, 10:19:26 PM
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Yar to all statements aimed at me.
"why i hit stop/start fast"- I was changing the -f command from -f1 to -f150
/facepalm@#ofblockvalidations

And it's heavily prommenient that i've bashed slush unfairly,
How is invalid share related to score system? And why are you 'hitting stop and start as fast as humanly fucking possible'? Sorry, I had to miss something here.
I am wondering how it's realted myself...

And what a truely mean isnt that your favoring 24/7 miners, It's that your pool has protection from attacks simmiliar to Raulo's attack wich indirectly causes 24/7 miners to function more fluidly than any on/off miner whom I THINK would get stale shares from when thier miner goes down

Sorry for the blunt english

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April 06, 2011, 09:51:21 AM
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What's the situation with blocks such as #2861 in the "Block History" section of the BPM stats page where it shows "Block #" as 0 with an invalid blockexplorer.com link and lists the validity as "Confirmed" immediately?

Is that a real block, or a bug, or something else?  Is the reward for such blocks valid?

Looks like bug, but I never see it before. Now I'm not at home so I marked the block as invalid manually. From blockexplorer it looks like the block is ours, but I have to search logs and see what exactly happen. If block is really ours, I'll mark it as valid and distribute the reward for it, of course.

For some strange reason, the sql command which saves blocknum and block hash to database failed. But block 116884 was succesfully confirmed and is ours, so I fixed block record in database manually and marked it as valid. Reward will be distributed at 10:00 UTC.

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April 06, 2011, 01:53:08 PM
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slush, I have a quick question. I haven't seen an FAQ section on your page so I thought I'd ask here.

With your pool is it ok to "log in" or use the same worker login on the same machine? Or do you require that I create different workers for each GPU? I have a Radeon 5970 and naturally it has two GPUs so that's why I'm asking. At the moment I have two separate workers - 1 for each GPU.

As a suggestion maybe you can add a FAQ section on your website so stupid questions such as mine can be answered? :p

Cheers!

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April 06, 2011, 04:37:01 PM
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With your pool is it ok to "log in" or use the same worker login on the same machine? Or do you require that I create different workers for each GPU? I have a Radeon 5970 and naturally it has two GPUs so that's why I'm asking. At the moment I have two separate workers - 1 for each GPU.

You're doing it right - separate workers for every instance, as is mentioned on homepage Wink.

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As a suggestion maybe you can add a FAQ section on your website so stupid questions such as mine can be answered? :p

Yes, I have few points to faq written already, have to finish that and publish Smiley.

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April 06, 2011, 07:42:07 PM
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In connection to recent security issues of other bitcoin site I want to clarify, that pool application does not store account passwords in paintext, but as hashes with random salt to avoid possible dictionary attacks. Also pool sources are built on technologies which does not allow SQL injection in any form. Finally, the profile page is using techniques against Cross site request forqery attack. It makes impossible to modify (for example) wallet address from malicious javascript. I care about overall pool security a lot.

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April 06, 2011, 07:43:36 PM
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In connection to recent security issues of other bitcoin application I want to clarify, that pool application does not store paintext password, but hashed passwords with random salt to avoid possible dictionary attacks. Also pool sources are built on technologies which does not allow SQL injection in any form. Finally, the profile page is using techniques against Cross site request forqery attack. It makes impossible to modify (for example) wallet address from malicious javascript. I care about overall pool security a lot.
This is very good to know, thanks!
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April 06, 2011, 09:18:03 PM
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With your pool is it ok to "log in" or use the same worker login on the same machine? Or do you require that I create different workers for each GPU? I have a Radeon 5970 and naturally it has two GPUs so that's why I'm asking. At the moment I have two separate workers - 1 for each GPU.

You're doing it right - separate workers for every instance, as is mentioned on homepage Wink.

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As a suggestion maybe you can add a FAQ section on your website so stupid questions such as mine can be answered? :p

Yes, I have few points to faq written already, have to finish that and publish Smiley.

Thanks for clearing that up. You know what's funny I've been to your page many times but never scrolled down to the bottom where you mention "Every instance of your miner needs its own worker account!!!"

Silly me. Well thanks for putting up with my newbieness :p


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April 07, 2011, 01:52:12 AM
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I just signed up on your pool, and dont have problem.
I did notice that you have tracking for google.

In the "My Account" page i see

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April 07, 2011, 01:54:16 AM
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Why do you track users for google? 

Because I'm curious how many people is going to the site?

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April 07, 2011, 01:57:54 AM
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Why do you track users for google?  

Because I'm curious how many people is going to the site?

Why depend on google though?  
AWstats is one of many a very good tracking program that you can run locally.
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April 07, 2011, 02:02:02 AM
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Why depend on google though? 

Well... why not? If you're scared that Google will steal your pool credentials, simply block him in AdBlock or similar.

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AWstats is one of many a very good tracking program that you can run locally.

But I don't want to run it locally. I have tens of sites on analytics already, so I just generated yet another javascript code and put it to template; work done under 1 minute.

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April 07, 2011, 02:03:53 AM
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Why depend on google though?  

Well... why not? If you're scared that Google will steal your pool credentials, simply block him in AdBlock or similar.

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AWstats is one of many a very good tracking program that you can run locally.

But I don't want to run it locally. I have tens of sites on analytics already, so I just generated yet another javascript code and put it to template; work done under 1 minute.

OK, I will just block with adblock then.  Good idea. Wink
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April 07, 2011, 02:50:19 AM
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I got another question about CFD.  I read your site, but it doesn't say what the vertical lines represent on the CFD graph.  Could you kindly explain this to me.  Why does it take so long to hit 100%, and what math would you do to calculate what 100% is?
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April 07, 2011, 03:49:47 AM
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Vertical axis is percentage.

"For example, the theoretical curve shows that 87% of blocks should be found after less that (2 * the current difficulty) shares."

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