[4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool

[slush]

Cannot fix it, checked on another machine with same result.
Maybe a problem with my account.

I can't remember how long the cache for this graph is, but it is definitely just a cache issue.

[gusti]

Cannot fix it, checked on another machine with same result.
Maybe a problem with my account.

I can't remember how long the cache for this graph is, but it is definitely just a cache issue.

Strange is that last figure in graph belongs to 20th, but pop-up says 19th.

[theGECK]

Cannot fix it, checked on another machine with same result.
Maybe a problem with my account.

I can't remember how long the cache for this graph is, but it is definitely just a cache issue.

Strange is that last figure in graph belongs to 20th, but pop-up says 19th.

FYI slush, I'm seeing the same thing here. Couldn't see the pop-up from my last post since I was writing/checking from my tablet, and pop-ups don't work very well (if at all) with a mobile device.

[slush]

FYI slush, I'm seeing the same thing here. Couldn't see the pop-up from my last post since I was writing/checking from my tablet, and pop-ups don't work very well (if at all) with a mobile device.

Well, cache is set to one hour, so this should not be the problem. Which browsers do you use? Maybe this is just the JS problem.

[theGECK]

FYI slush, I'm seeing the same thing here. Couldn't see the pop-up from my last post since I was writing/checking from my tablet, and pop-ups don't work very well (if at all) with a mobile device.

Well, cache is set to one hour, so this should not be the problem. Which browsers do you use? Maybe this is just the JS problem.

Problem happens on a Windows XP machine: Google Chrome 9.0.597.94, Firefox 3.5.14. Internet Explorer 8.0.6001.18702 reports this error:

"Webpage error details

User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; InfoPath.2; FDM; Zune 4.0)
Timestamp: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:47:58 UTC

Message: 'window.G_vmlCanvasManager' is null or not an object
Line: 554
Char: 17
Code: 0
URI: http://mining.bitcoin.cz/media/js/flot/jquery.flot.js"

[G-Nugget]

The issue with the dates on the popups for the graphs all being one day slow looks like a js issue.  I haven't been able to mess with it yet, but the code looks like it would be easy to just add 1 to the date on the popup, and assuming that the x axis is correct on the dates, this would fix that.

[slush]

Problem happens on a Windows XP machine: Google Chrome 9.0.597.94, Firefox 3.5.14. Internet Explorer 8.0.6001.18702 reports this error:

Damn, looks like flop isn't working in IE8 properly. Upgrade to flop trunk should fix that. I'll add this to my TODO. Firefox and Chrome works for me without a problem.

[theGECK]

Chrome is my primary browser, and the pop-up date is different from the date at the bottom of the graph. I did Internet Explorer and Firefox for testing purposes - I rarely use them. The pop-up in both Chrome and Firefox is one day behind the graph's label.

Which one should we assume is correct?

[slush]

Chrome is my primary browser, and the pop-up date is different from the date at the bottom of the graph. I did Internet Explorer and Firefox for testing purposes - I rarely use them. The pop-up in both Chrome and Firefox is one day behind the graph's label.

Can you post the screenshot, please? I don't see any troubles in Chrome and Firefox. In IE8 I see no graphs at all, which is known bug of used version of Flot JS library.

[slush]

I'm going to add the third server. Because of cloning, I have to shutdown second one, so pool will operate on one server for few minutes.

[theGECK]

Chrome is my primary browser, and the pop-up date is different from the date at the bottom of the graph. I did Internet Explorer and Firefox for testing purposes - I rarely use them. The pop-up in both Chrome and Firefox is one day behind the graph's label.

Can you post the screenshot, please? I don't see any troubles in Chrome and Firefox. In IE8 I see no graphs at all, which is known bug of used version of Flot JS library.

I attached screenshots of the pool rewards instead of personal - it acts the same way. You can see the selected date on the first picture 31.1.2011, but the label on the graph says Feb. 1. The second picture does the same thing with a different date. Chrome and Firefox do the same thing, Internet Explorer does not display any graph but says there is an error on the page, which I copied and pasted to you.

Edit: I can't upload images to this post, because the upload folder is full. Here are links to the pictures on ImageShack.

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3218/poolerror1.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/364/poolerror2.jpg

[bitjet]

I'm going to add the third server. Because of cloning, I have to shutdown second one, so pool will operate on one server for few minutes.

hah you should do that more often, just nailed 3 blocks in <30 minutes.

[Voltaic]

I'm not concerned and neither should you be.  The points I make on this board are pretty much general "what ifs" when things get bigger.  I suppose pooled mining won't last that long.  However, if our IRS saw that the equivalent of 20+ million dollars comes into creation, you can be sure they want a piece.  In Las Vegas, if you win a large amount, they tax you right there.  I don't know if they'd let you go home with the chips on the promise to pay the tax when you come back and sell them to the cash cage.  They equate the win with money, just like the win of a car.  I don't know whether they'd tax the Bitcoins as cash, but they would impute a certain value to the Bitcoins and tax someone on that.  Now, here in the US, the IRS would realize that it was not completely feasable to tax the person who got the Bitcoins due to anonymity reasons, so I think they would tax mining pools here, theorizing that the mining pool actually took possession of the asset before passing it along, and have the mining pool do "withholding" just like an employer does with wages, or Vegas does with chip winnings.  Hopefully this flies under their radar, or we base the mining pool in Switzerland or the Grand Cayman Island.

I'd like to take this time to point out that no casino in Las Vegas taxes you on your winnings. They prefer you to be responsible.

What they do is give you a W2-G that shows your winnings, but withhold 0 taxes. This, then, forces you as the winner to be responsible to the IRS to pay taxes on it out of your own money. This makes sense from the casino end (Where they would have to track millions of W2-Gs, and hold onto millions of dollars in tax money, tracking everything), but not the player end (The Winner assumes that everything is taken care of, when it isn't).

It would, further, be impossible for the casino to calculate the tax rate they should be required to withhold. What if you win $500,000 more from other casinos? Technically you should have had more withheld from each individual win.

I say this from working (and of course, playing and winning) in casinos for the last 10 years, on top of designing the software required to run some of these casinos.

Of course, this is probably all OT, and should likely go somewhere in the Economics boards.

[gusti]

FYI slush, I'm seeing the same thing here. Couldn't see the pop-up from my last post since I was writing/checking from my tablet, and pop-ups don't work very well (if at all) with a mobile device.

Well, cache is set to one hour, so this should not be the problem. Which browsers do you use? Maybe this is just the JS problem.

Firefox 3.6.13, Vista.

[slush]

hah you should do that more often, just nailed 3 blocks in <30 minutes.

Haha

Three servers are up and running. Looks like it helped, invalid shares should be much less often.

[slush]

You can see the selected date on the first picture 31.1.2011, but the label on the graph says Feb. 1.

Thanks for the screenshots, I'll try to investigate it a bit. Looks like bug in rendering x-axis. That means info in should be correct.
Oh, which timezone are you? It might be the reason, because now I see that JS renders x-axis as UTC, but popup dates in local time of browser. As I'm UTC +1, I miss the difference until now.

[bobR]

hah you should do that more often, just nailed 3 blocks in <30 minutes.

Haha

Three servers are up and running. Looks like it helped, invalid shares should be much less often.

ok I hate to be stupid
How does this work with 3 servers

Think i got the new method part
smaller payout but more of them = the same daily profit

[xenon481]

hah you should do that more often, just nailed 3 blocks in <30 minutes.

Haha

Three servers are up and running. Looks like it helped, invalid shares should be much less often.

ok I hate to be stupid
How does this work with 3 servers

I assume there is a front end load balancer to direct the requests to an appropriate provider.

[theGECK]

Slush, I'm in UTC -6

Not to add another question for you to answer slush, but how will the push update change things? I mean from a practical view, I think I understand that the push will tell your miner to stop working on a block and get a new piece of work. Will the miners need to be modified to take advantage of the change?

[slush]

I mean from a practical view, I think I understand that the push will tell your miner to stop working on a block and get a new piece of work. Will the miners need to be modified to take advantage of the change?

There will be two possibilities how to use push:
a) Use miner which will understand the push protocol
b) Use getwork proxy, small script running on localhost, which will communicate with pool on push protocol and with miner on getwork protocol.