Any word on amd vega hash rates?

[Shnikes101]

Ok, all we know now that we need blockchain drivers to get good speed with Vegas.
It works only in win10 and only if your motherboard is fresh enough to have UEFI bios. With legacy bios you will get BSOD when installing driver.
The problem with blockchain driver is buggy power management.
And you definitely need downvolt to keep your HBM2 cool and non-throttling.
If you have Vega56 you can follow Hellae instructions (respect!) to get good speed with moderate power (~1300mhz gpu, 920-950mhz hbcc, 0.9-0.92v)
But if you have Vega64 his route I think will not work so you need some special hack.
I do have one that can make your Vega64air or Vega64 Liquid to run at 0.9v with ~1400gpu/1100hbm getting approx 150w from the wall with speed 1990h/s xmr.
It is still 0.4 eth )) I'm greedy )))

:cough: softpowerplaytable mod :cough: :cough:

[Hellae]

Miner settings are standart - 2 threads with 2016 and 1800 intensity.

Vega 56 crashes with 1800 on the second thread. That might explain the hash difference.

Currently doing 1850 H/s with 2016+1600 threads.

I tried 1850 intensity  for the second thread, got 2000+ hashrate but soon crashed.
2016+1800 seems stable so far

Is it worth investing in Vega for mining purposes, or should one just stick with AMD RX 580 series.

It depends how much you believe in Monero.
Best card to mine XMR seems to be Vega 56, with 1850 H/s @ 150W for only 399$ (good luck on that price).

Assuming 399 and ignoring power bill, at current monero price each Vega 56 reaches its ROI in 4 months.

A Vega64 (499$) with rednoW's secret improvements, reaches ROI in 5 months, and each next month does $8.41 over Vega 56.
After those 5 months, it will take 11 months (100$ / 8.41$) to have Vega 64 netting more income than the Vega 56.

Now... will XMR continue to rise or fall? Some point it as the coin that BTC always wanted to be, and in the Deep Web XMR seems to be more used than BTC.

Ignoring the future of XMR, Vega 56 + XMR is today one of the best GPU/Coin pairs, if not the best, to reach ROI.

I'm new on mining, so feel free to correct me if I'm making no sense somewhere.

[thevictimofuktyranny]

Miner settings are standart - 2 threads with 2016 and 1800 intensity.

Vega 56 crashes with 1800 on the second thread. That might explain the hash difference.

Currently doing 1850 H/s with 2016+1600 threads.

I tried 1850 intensity  for the second thread, got 2000+ hashrate but soon crashed.
2016+1800 seems stable so far

Is it worth investing in Vega for mining purposes, or should one just stick with AMD RX 580 series.

It depends how much you believe in Monero.
Best card to mine XMR seems to be Vega 56, with 1850 H/s @ 150W for only 399$ (good luck on that price).

Assuming 399 and ignoring power bill, at current monero price each Vega 56 reaches its ROI in 4 months.

A Vega64 (499$) with rednoW's secret improvements, reaches ROI in 5 months, and each next month does $8.41 over Vega 56.
After those 5 months, it will take 11 months (100$ / 8.41$) to have Vega 64 netting more income than the Vega 56.

Now... will XMR continue to rise or fall? Some point it as the coin that BTC always wanted to be, and in the Deep Web XMR seems to be more used than BTC.

Ignoring the future of XMR, Vega 56 + XMR is today one of the best GPU/Coin pairs, if not the best, to reach ROI.

I'm new on mining, so feel free to correct me if I'm making no sense somewhere.

I did a test run and RX Vega 56 was getting a 7%-8% reject rate from expired blocks.

So, the profitability is always 8% below the mining calculators and then you have to factor in the inefficiency for pools to doing the hashes, which further reduces mining payouts.

And, I could not get RX Vega 56 above 1300 hashes.

I think it, it is a bold claim to say anyone will be able to make those returns on mining XMR!

[Jackkyy]

Miner settings are standart - 2 threads with 2016 and 1800 intensity.

Vega 56 crashes with 1800 on the second thread. That might explain the hash difference.

Currently doing 1850 H/s with 2016+1600 threads.

I tried 1850 intensity  for the second thread, got 2000+ hashrate but soon crashed.
2016+1800 seems stable so far

Is it worth investing in Vega for mining purposes, or should one just stick with AMD RX 580 series.

It depends how much you believe in Monero.
Best card to mine XMR seems to be Vega 56, with 1850 H/s @ 150W for only 399$ (good luck on that price).

Assuming 399 and ignoring power bill, at current monero price each Vega 56 reaches its ROI in 4 months.

A Vega64 (499$) with rednoW's secret improvements, reaches ROI in 5 months, and each next month does $8.41 over Vega 56.
After those 5 months, it will take 11 months (100$ / 8.41$) to have Vega 64 netting more income than the Vega 56.

Now... will XMR continue to rise or fall? Some point it as the coin that BTC always wanted to be, and in the Deep Web XMR seems to be more used than BTC.

Ignoring the future of XMR, Vega 56 + XMR is today one of the best GPU/Coin pairs, if not the best, to reach ROI.

I'm new on mining, so feel free to correct me if I'm making no sense somewhere.

For short term vega 56 is good
but in long term vega 64 is best for me

I see on many forums vega 56 have problem with chip

[Hellae]

Miner settings are standart - 2 threads with 2016 and 1800 intensity.

Vega 56 crashes with 1800 on the second thread. That might explain the hash difference.

Currently doing 1850 H/s with 2016+1600 threads.

I tried 1850 intensity  for the second thread, got 2000+ hashrate but soon crashed.
2016+1800 seems stable so far

Is it worth investing in Vega for mining purposes, or should one just stick with AMD RX 580 series.

It depends how much you believe in Monero.
Best card to mine XMR seems to be Vega 56, with 1850 H/s @ 150W for only 399$ (good luck on that price).

Assuming 399 and ignoring power bill, at current monero price each Vega 56 reaches its ROI in 4 months.

A Vega64 (499$) with rednoW's secret improvements, reaches ROI in 5 months, and each next month does $8.41 over Vega 56.
After those 5 months, it will take 11 months (100$ / 8.41$) to have Vega 64 netting more income than the Vega 56.

Now... will XMR continue to rise or fall? Some point it as the coin that BTC always wanted to be, and in the Deep Web XMR seems to be more used than BTC.

Ignoring the future of XMR, Vega 56 + XMR is today one of the best GPU/Coin pairs, if not the best, to reach ROI.

I'm new on mining, so feel free to correct me if I'm making no sense somewhere.

I did a test run and RX Vega 56 was getting a 7%-8% reject rate from expired blocks.

So, the profitability is always 8% below the mining calculators and then you have to factor in the inefficiency for pools to doing the hashes, which further reduces mining payouts.

And, I could not get RX Vega 56 above 1300 hashes.

I think it, it is a bold claim to say anyone will be able to make those returns on mining XMR!

I'm only claiming my scenario...

Without power bill, the calculator is telling I should have 0.10 XMR / day.

Maybe the pool where I am is just lucky but 7 days ago I started mining at 1400 H/s / Vega56. And its pretty easy to have it at 1400 cause it's just stock settings + HBCC on a 2016-8 thread.

Between some resets to apply new testings I improved the hash to 1600, then 1700, then 1800 and now 1850.

The pool already paid me 0.6532229730 XMR and there's already 0.0974204413 XMR due to my shares on latest block.

That's 0.7506434143 XMR, on pair with the calculator.

That's 4 months to ROI (GPUs only), give or take a few weeks depending on XMR price.

edit: as per valid/invalid shares I am with 22,174 valid and 4 invalid.

[thevictimofuktyranny]

Miner settings are standart - 2 threads with 2016 and 1800 intensity.

Vega 56 crashes with 1800 on the second thread. That might explain the hash difference.

Currently doing 1850 H/s with 2016+1600 threads.

I tried 1850 intensity  for the second thread, got 2000+ hashrate but soon crashed.
2016+1800 seems stable so far

Is it worth investing in Vega for mining purposes, or should one just stick with AMD RX 580 series.

It depends how much you believe in Monero.
Best card to mine XMR seems to be Vega 56, with 1850 H/s @ 150W for only 399$ (good luck on that price).

Assuming 399 and ignoring power bill, at current monero price each Vega 56 reaches its ROI in 4 months.

A Vega64 (499$) with rednoW's secret improvements, reaches ROI in 5 months, and each next month does $8.41 over Vega 56.
After those 5 months, it will take 11 months (100$ / 8.41$) to have Vega 64 netting more income than the Vega 56.

Now... will XMR continue to rise or fall? Some point it as the coin that BTC always wanted to be, and in the Deep Web XMR seems to be more used than BTC.

Ignoring the future of XMR, Vega 56 + XMR is today one of the best GPU/Coin pairs, if not the best, to reach ROI.

I'm new on mining, so feel free to correct me if I'm making no sense somewhere.

I did a test run and RX Vega 56 was getting a 7%-8% reject rate from expired blocks.

So, the profitability is always 8% below the mining calculators and then you have to factor in the inefficiency for pools to doing the hashes, which further reduces mining payouts.

And, I could not get RX Vega 56 above 1300 hashes.

I think it, it is a bold claim to say anyone will be able to make those returns on mining XMR!

I'm only claiming my scenario...

Without power bill, the calculator is telling I should have 0.10 XMR / day.

Maybe the pool where I am is just lucky but 7 days ago I started mining at 1400 H/s / Vega56. And its pretty easy to have it at 1400 cause it's just stock settings + HBCC on a 2016-8 thread.

Between some resets to apply new testings I improved the hash to 1600, then 1700, then 1800 and now 1850.

The pool already paid me 0.6532229730 XMR and there's already 0.0974204413 XMR due to my shares on latest block.

That's 0.7506434143 XMR, on pair with the calculator.

That's 4 months to ROI (GPUs only), give or take a few weeks depending on XMR price.

edit: as per valid/invalid shares I am with 22,174 valid and 4 invalid.

Can you PM the name of pool - seems to have a very good server implementation - seriously better than the one I tested on!

[Hellae]

Miner settings are standart - 2 threads with 2016 and 1800 intensity.

Vega 56 crashes with 1800 on the second thread. That might explain the hash difference.

Currently doing 1850 H/s with 2016+1600 threads.

I tried 1850 intensity  for the second thread, got 2000+ hashrate but soon crashed.
2016+1800 seems stable so far

Is it worth investing in Vega for mining purposes, or should one just stick with AMD RX 580 series.

It depends how much you believe in Monero.
Best card to mine XMR seems to be Vega 56, with 1850 H/s @ 150W for only 399$ (good luck on that price).

Assuming 399 and ignoring power bill, at current monero price each Vega 56 reaches its ROI in 4 months.

A Vega64 (499$) with rednoW's secret improvements, reaches ROI in 5 months, and each next month does $8.41 over Vega 56.
After those 5 months, it will take 11 months (100$ / 8.41$) to have Vega 64 netting more income than the Vega 56.

Now... will XMR continue to rise or fall? Some point it as the coin that BTC always wanted to be, and in the Deep Web XMR seems to be more used than BTC.

Ignoring the future of XMR, Vega 56 + XMR is today one of the best GPU/Coin pairs, if not the best, to reach ROI.

I'm new on mining, so feel free to correct me if I'm making no sense somewhere.

I did a test run and RX Vega 56 was getting a 7%-8% reject rate from expired blocks.

So, the profitability is always 8% below the mining calculators and then you have to factor in the inefficiency for pools to doing the hashes, which further reduces mining payouts.

And, I could not get RX Vega 56 above 1300 hashes.

I think it, it is a bold claim to say anyone will be able to make those returns on mining XMR!

I'm only claiming my scenario...

Without power bill, the calculator is telling I should have 0.10 XMR / day.

Maybe the pool where I am is just lucky but 7 days ago I started mining at 1400 H/s / Vega56. And its pretty easy to have it at 1400 cause it's just stock settings + HBCC on a 2016-8 thread.

Between some resets to apply new testings I improved the hash to 1600, then 1700, then 1800 and now 1850.

The pool already paid me 0.6532229730 XMR and there's already 0.0974204413 XMR due to my shares on latest block.

That's 0.7506434143 XMR, on pair with the calculator.

That's 4 months to ROI (GPUs only), give or take a few weeks depending on XMR price.

edit: as per valid/invalid shares I am with 22,174 valid and 4 invalid.

Can you PM the name of pool - seems to have a very good server implementation - seriously better than the one I tested on!

PM Sent.

Note that those values are for 3 x Vega 56, running at a total of ~5500 H/s @ 570W measured at the wall, and that only after the 3rd day I reached over 5000 H/s.

[oskar_n8]

Hello,
I am new here and keen about this discussion! :-)
What I like to learn from you is how you define the powerconsum of your card:
Example:
System idle without card: 23 Watt
System idle with one Vega: 45 Watt
System mining xmr: 180 Watt

How do you calculate power from wall with this values.

Cheers

Oskar

[rednoW]

Hello,
I am new here and keen about this discussion! :-)
What I like to learn from you is how you define the powerconsum of your card:
Example:
System idle without card: 23 Watt
System idle with one Vega: 45 Watt
System mining xmr: 180 Watt

How do you calculate power from wall with this values.

Cheers

Oskar

My numbers are diff between mining and idle mode. It is easier to get and one can always add idle wattage of his system.

[oskar_n8]

Hello,
I am new here and keen about this discussion! :-)
What I like to learn from you is how you define the powerconsum of your card:
Example:
System idle without card: 23 Watt
System idle with one Vega: 45 Watt
System mining xmr: 180 Watt

How do you calculate power from wall with this values.

Cheers

Oskar

My numbers are diff between mining and idle mode. It is easier to get and one can always add idle wattage of his system.

And how would you calculate  the powerconsum with my values?

[rednoW]

Hello,
I am new here and keen about this discussion! :-)
What I like to learn from you is how you define the powerconsum of your card:
Example:
System idle without card: 23 Watt
System idle with one Vega: 45 Watt
System mining xmr: 180 Watt

How do you calculate power from wall with this values.

Cheers

Oskar

My numbers are diff between mining and idle mode. It is easier to get and one can always add idle wattage of his system.

And how would you calculate  the powerconsum with my values?

135watt mining xmr.

[antantti]

Assuming 399 and ignoring power bill, at current monero price each Vega 56 reaches its ROI in 4 months.

Ignoring power bill 295x2, 390x2 and pro duo do close to 2k. Too bad their street prices also jumped this year.

But I must say these vega cryptonight numbers are the first thing in years in gpu mining that impressed me.

[oskar_n8]

Hello,
I am new here and keen about this discussion! :-)
What I like to learn from you is how you define the powerconsum of your card:
Example:
System idle without card: 23 Watt
System idle with one Vega: 45 Watt
System mining xmr: 180 Watt

How do you calculate power from wall with this values.

Cheers

Oskar

My numbers are diff between mining and idle mode. It is easier to get and one can always add idle wattage of his system.

And how would you calculate  the powerconsum with my values?

135watt mining xmr.

Okay, that made it clear for me

[SnOOpeRa]

Hi , i have a problem with new one Vega 64 rig ( 6 x Vega 64 ) , when using official AMD driver 17.9.1 there are no problems , everything is working as is should , i can get 38mhs eth stable and 44 exp stable with core 900 / 1100 memory on 875mv both using OverdriveNTool . Try to test xmr with this setup and geting about 650 per card , which is expectable , try to set on HBCC on every card , but cannot success , I can enable it only on 4 of 6 cards , other 2 set it on , apply , drivers resets itself and stay off , tryed anything and on card 2 and 3 cannot enable it ? Any ideas ?
And another question I try 23 Aug Blockchain driver , clean install , ddu , driver installs OK , but machine stuck with artefacats/grey lines/ grey screen seconds after start miner no matter eth or xmr , stuck on default settings , stuck on downclock/downvolt settings too, so I returned to 17.9.1 , any ideas what can I do/try to make blockchain driver to work ?

edit: Rig is with 8 gigs of ram, intel celeron 1151, 6x vega 64 , I have HBCC slider on all 6 cards , but only on 4 I can enable it and move the slider , virtual memory is set to 32gb ?  Maybe this is the problem 4 x 8gb = 32 , will try with 64gb virtual memory whats gonna happen ?

[tkachev]

Same problem. How much ram do you have in that rig?

[Jackkyy]

for 2 vega 64 card
how much ram need???

[KaydenC]

for 2 vega 64 card
how much ram need???

People on monero mining reddit are saying HBCC slider don't appear if you have 4 or 8gb ram, and 16 is the minimum. I only have 2 cards, so the slider appears even with 8GB.

[Jackkyy]

for other coin is ok??

and any test ZEC - whats a hasrate?

[KaydenC]

Side note anyone knows how to undervolt vega 64? I cap the clock speeds at 1070mhz. Hash rates starts at 1800 but quickly drops to 1600h/s, likely due to heat. HBM temps never exceed 70 degrees though.

[Jackkyy]

1600-1800H/s for ZEc per 1 card?