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September 07, 2017, 04:45:15 AM
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September 07, 2017, 04:49:35 AM
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Agree with Litex. The project has a working product which proves it's legitimate beyond doubt.

Also my 2 cents on Fran Strajnar: I've personally worked with him before and he's not necessarily the easiest person to work with. He's quite self-centered and inconsistent in his dealings so wasn't too glad when this project brought him as escrow. Hopefully they'll find someone better.
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September 07, 2017, 05:41:11 AM
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I feel bad about this project, can wcx be successful?

Why not?

I do not understand why so much negativity and so much air shaking. The project works, the beta version works, everything that the authors of the project promise - they do in time. Personally, I do not see any scam in this case.

Considering the fact that now there is no ICO and simply there can not be any scam (because at the moment there is no fundraising) - then why pour the negative on the project

They still have many server problems and from my digging, probably very poor security. "works" is too good of a word for now. As for "can't be a scam" .... I am pretty sure they already opened for pre-ico deposits, and without escrow like they kept stating. Sure, closed now after collecting funds... There is also a good amount of funds on their semi-secure platform that is prime for being "hacked and stolen". So, plenty of ways for them to exit.

Not saying they will. Am still thinking 50/50 chance.
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September 07, 2017, 06:20:23 AM
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I feel bad about this project, can wcx be successful?

Why not?

I do not understand why so much negativity and so much air shaking. The project works, the beta version works, everything that the authors of the project promise - they do in time. Personally, I do not see any scam in this case.

Considering the fact that now there is no ICO and simply there can not be any scam (because at the moment there is no fundraising) - then why pour the negative on the project

They still have many server problems and from my digging, probably very poor security. "works" is too good of a word for now. As for "can't be a scam" .... I am pretty sure they already opened for pre-ico deposits, and without escrow like they kept stating. Sure, closed now after collecting funds... There is also a good amount of funds on their semi-secure platform that is prime for being "hacked and stolen". So, plenty of ways for them to exit.

Not saying they will. Am still thinking 50/50 chance.

You're making complete fool out of yourself again benjismarket. You screamed scam and the very next day WCX comes out with their fully working exchange  Cheesy Cheesy take a hike and stop promoting your shitty ICO, nobody want it

"from my diggging" they have poor security? please show us how you hacked all the wallets? lol
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September 07, 2017, 06:41:20 AM
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Fran (our former escrow) recently asked to obtain residence information of our directors who are private key holders, as well as KYC information for investors in our ICO and presales. This requirement was not in the contract we had signed with him and we were assured we would not need to provide such information to him. For that reason we were obliged to terminate the escrow arrangement.

If the email posted above is true, we're unhappy with Fran's behavior and tone after his termination as escrow, since he had confidential access to WCX's product development and knew of our legitimacy well ahead of the public.

Moving forward we're likely to be focused on the product development (WCX) rather than the ICO for the next week or so. Presales are currently closed but we expect to announce new escrow managers and re-open them soon.

this is true that the lack of informations about WCX is not good for your communication, please change your policy and make some news about the team. I like your product, i like the interface, everything, but you also need to provide more clarity about your project , many peoples dont understand why its so secret to hide simple informations ... make some efforts guys
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September 07, 2017, 07:06:05 AM
Last edit: September 07, 2017, 09:17:45 AM by o48o
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I just received this email from Fran Strajnar:



Take from it what you will. In case you think this is just FUD, feel free to contact him personally to confirm.

Fran (our former escrow) recently asked to obtain residence information of our directors who are private key holders, as well as KYC information for investors in our ICO and presales. This requirement was not in the contract we had signed with him and we were assured we would not need to provide such information to him. For that reason we were obliged to terminate the escrow arrangement.

If the email posted above is true, we're unhappy with Fran's behavior and tone after his termination as escrow, since he had confidential access to WCX's product development and knew of our legitimacy well ahead of the public.

Moving forward we're likely to be focused on the product development (WCX) rather than the ICO for the next week or so. Presales are currently closed but we expect to announce new escrow managers and re-open them soon.

You seriously are going to perform an ICO as an anonymoys developers of centralized exchance without disclosing your indentity to ANYONE? You are not going to get registered? Well i guess that explains why aren't you dealing with banks. And "built by Apple & Wall St team" well i quess we can't confirm that either. You can claim to have any CV you want.

Anyway, i am out. I can't believe i was so blind, you don't even got terms of service, i guess i was getting greedy.

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September 07, 2017, 07:21:55 AM
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What difference does it make if they anonymous or not you fool? When has being or not being anonymous made any changes?

They explain not revealing ID of key holder for security, it s agreeable. But how can you think just a little, MT GOX was not anonymous and they got hacked and doomed. Same with Bitfinex, not anonymous they got massive hack and stealing funds. What the fuck does id or no ID make a difference anyway? Think one little bit, use your brain

99% of ICOs are scammy as is known and many show the faces of their "teams" lol. In the end its about how good the business is and if they can deliver the product and WCX did. 99% of ICOs only make promises, no product, and stupid investors send money based on "team" photos. if you still believe WCX is scam even after they made their product live and working, you can judge the quality of product for yourself its right in front of your eyes, maybe the only ICO I see do this BEFORE the ICO, something is wrong with your head if you think still "scam"
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September 07, 2017, 07:29:11 AM
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@wcxofficial Where are you guys based at?
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September 07, 2017, 07:41:10 AM
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What difference does it make if they anonymous or not you fool? When has being or not being anonymous made any changes?

They explain not revealing ID of key holder for security, it s agreeable. But how can you think just a little, MT GOX was not anonymous and they got hacked and doomed. Same with Bitfinex, not anonymous they got massive hack and stealing funds. What the fuck does id or no ID make a difference anyway? Think one little bit, use your brain

99% of ICOs are scammy as is known and many show the faces of their "teams" lol. In the end its about how good the business is and if they can deliver the product and WCX did. 99% of ICOs only make promises, no product, and stupid investors send money based on "team" photos. if you still believe WCX is scam even after they made their product live and working, you can judge the quality of product for yourself its right in front of your eyes, maybe the only ICO I see do this BEFORE the ICO, something is wrong with your head if you think still "scam"

Hey, i can see that you have some referral coins that you want to cash out.. Cheesy Scams with working products is nothing new, they just won't develope it further if they don't want to. And i wouldn't worry so much about stealing just an ICO money, because NOTHING keeps them for taking btc in the exchance as well. Why wouldn't they? They have nothing to lose.
If you really can't see a difference for giving your money to an anonymous poster or confirmed people with linkedin accounts, please invite your friends too; scams need more people like you to thrive.

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September 07, 2017, 07:58:51 AM
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The project turns out to be very confusing. So, Waiting for the new Escrow..
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September 07, 2017, 08:20:59 AM
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Fran (our former escrow) recently asked to obtain residence information of our directors who are private key holders, as well as KYC information for investors in our ICO and presales. This requirement was not in the contract we had signed with him and we were assured we would not need to provide such information to him. For that reason we were obliged to terminate the escrow arrangement.

If the email posted above is true, we're unhappy with Fran's behavior and tone after his termination as escrow, since he had confidential access to WCX's product development and knew of our legitimacy well ahead of the public.

Moving forward we're likely to be focused on the product development (WCX) rather than the ICO for the next week or so. Presales are currently closed but we expect to announce new escrow managers and re-open them soon.



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So.....

1.  Where are the presale monies at right now?

2.  Did presale monies go into an existing escrow account with Fran? Yes/No

3.  If Yes, did you get the monies back from Fran?  Yes/No

4.   What kind of escrow contract allows a party to back out for reasons not stipulated in the contract?

5.  The escrow contract didn't have stipulations as to what would happen if one party wanted to reneg?  Contract should have stipulated the funds going ONLY TO ANOTHER ESCROW (otherwise it was never really a valid escrow).

It sounds like wcex has control of the funds again.  True/Fase  (See #1.)




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September 07, 2017, 08:45:05 AM
Last edit: September 07, 2017, 08:56:06 AM by Coiner_
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I contacted both. Seems like the escrow is butthurt, he breach the contract with WCX so WCX fired him, now he talking shit about them. He was set to make some millons from the ICO...

Evidence? Surely you realize I can't take your claims at face value.

Agree with Litex. The project has a working product which proves it's legitimate beyond doubt.

That's a non-sequitur.

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Also my 2 cents on Fran Strajnar: I've personally worked with him before and he's not necessarily the easiest person to work with. He's quite self-centered and inconsistent in his dealings so wasn't too glad when this project brought him as escrow. Hopefully they'll find someone better.

Fran Strajnar is literally the worst person in crypto. Virtually nobody wants to work with him. I don't know why WCEX chose him as escrow in the first place.

Both Newbie accounts with < 5 posts registered within hours of each other now saying much the same thing. Apart from the fact that you are most likely alts of the same person, there's no evidence for that claim.

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September 07, 2017, 09:01:18 AM
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I admit I had been genuinely interested. BUT obviously this scam (now we all know!) is not doing too well, a lot of things going wrong even before the big ICO heist

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September 07, 2017, 09:13:05 AM
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Obviously this scam is not doing too well, a lot of things going wrong even before the big ICO heist

Try harder

That's the same kind of blanket statements that was thrown around in the beginning of the ELIX/TME project thread you just posted on (with anonymous devs no less) so perhaps it is you who should try harder.
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September 07, 2017, 10:25:45 AM
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I admit I had been genuinely interested. BUT obviously this scam (now we all know!) is not doing too well, a lot of things going wrong even before the big ICO heist

Try harder
When this happens, I no longer trust the project and no longer want to invest in wcx anymore

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September 07, 2017, 10:26:30 AM
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Obviously this scam is not doing too well, a lot of things going wrong even before the big ICO heist

Try harder

That's the same kind of blanket statements that was thrown around in the beginning of the ELIX/TME project thread you just posted on (with anonymous devs no less) so perhaps it is you who should try harder.

Mate, please come on, I don't see how this is related - at all. ELIX/TME project doesn't claim 'Apple & Wall St. Team' in the first place - it's just a little project that is not attracting any ICO money or investment money whatsoever.
This thing here is a different ballgame that is trying to get people to invest their funds and I'm just expressing my honest opinion. Announcing an escrow - said escrow saying that WCX refuses to disclose who they are - and WCX in return announcing 'we're unhappy with Fran's behavior'. Welcome to the Kindergarden! This is not only a red flag but truly ridiculous. Sorry to say.

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September 07, 2017, 11:21:06 AM
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Fran (our former escrow) recently asked to obtain residence information of our directors who are private key holders, as well as KYC information for investors in our ICO and presales. This requirement was not in the contract we had signed with him and we were assured we would not need to provide such information to him. For that reason we were obliged to terminate the escrow arrangement.

Do you anything to back this up? Like a screenshot of your email/telegram/slack/discord/x convo where he says that exactly? You clearly didn't use Skype or any other video platform since you're still anonymous to even him so it has to be one of those and I doubt he was calling in to Hong Kong everytime he wanted to communicate with you guys.

I'm asking this since this side of your story has so far not been corroborated.

Obviously this scam is not doing too well, a lot of things going wrong even before the big ICO heist

Try harder

That's the same kind of blanket statements that was thrown around in the beginning of the ELIX/TME project thread you just posted on (with anonymous devs no less) so perhaps it is you who should try harder.

Mate, please come on, I don't see how this is related - at all. ELIX/TME project doesn't claim 'Apple & Wall St. Team' in the first place - it's just a little project that is not attracting any ICO money or investment money whatsoever.

Sure, they never claimed to be a team from every eye-catching establishment there is but they're anonymous nontheless and that is one issue a lot of people in here seem to find very hard to look past. And ELIX/TME did attract money in their brief ICO, however small.

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This thing here is a different ballgame that is trying to get people to invest their funds and I'm just expressing my honest opinion. Announcing an escrow - said escrow saying that WCX refuses to disclose who they are - and WCX in return announcing 'we're unhappy with Fran's behavior'. Welcome to the Kindergarden! This is not only a red flag but truly ridiculous. Sorry to say.

I do agree with this for the most part but your claim that they're a scam right now is just that, an opinion.
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September 07, 2017, 03:42:15 PM
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Lol at the FUDders. I love how they come in and blow air with absolutely no proof as they have done in the past. So they say WCX built and release a full functioning exchange (know how hard this is?) etc. all this so they can eventually take some money at an ICO? What kind of conspiracy bullshit is this?

On one side we have some FUDders which by the way still have 0 proof of any wrongdoing, they just blowing air and jerking, while on another hand we have WCX which have delivered on every single promise they made so far include a real live exchange. Mmm wonder which is real and which is fake...
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September 07, 2017, 04:04:52 PM
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I received this email couple hours ago.
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September 07, 2017, 04:35:55 PM
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Got an invite, even though i am very skeptic now, before i got into Coinigy i sure would have liked that kind of dashboard in place i was trading at.

Fran (our former escrow) recently asked to obtain residence information of our directors who are private key holders, as well as KYC information for investors in our ICO and presales. This requirement was not in the contract we had signed with him and we were assured we would not need to provide such information to him. For that reason we were obliged to terminate the escrow arrangement.

Do you anything to back this up? Like a screenshot of your email/telegram/slack/discord/x convo where he says that exactly? You clearly didn't use Skype or any other video platform since you're still anonymous to even him so it has to be one of those and I doubt he was calling in to Hong Kong everytime he wanted to communicate with you guys.

I'm asking this since this side of your story has so far not been corroborated.


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