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August 11, 2017, 07:10:55 AM
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Will Bitcoin Cash rise again. The price is going up and down
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August 11, 2017, 07:15:59 AM
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Will Bitcoin Cash rise again. The price is going up and down
yea bitcoin will go back up to its price of over $3k...

while bitcoin cash will drop from its current ath of $3500ish to under $300 or lower when it forks again.

bcc = btc
btc = bcc

Technically Bitcoin is a fork and Bitcoin Cash is the original blockchain.When the hard fork occurred, people had access to the same amount of coins on Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash.- NIST
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August 11, 2017, 10:21:02 AM
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congrats to arviecnt on making $350 of BCH profit on 1 dice bet at LuckyGames Dice







after seeing him hit that bet, i had to play a little. good start. i'm happy making 0.01BCH  Cool








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August 11, 2017, 10:48:34 AM
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Will Bitcoin Cash rise again. The price is going up and down
yea bitcoin will go back up to its price of over $3k...

while bitcoin cash will drop from its current ath of $3500ish to under $300 or lower when it forks again.

bcc = btc
btc = bcc

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August 11, 2017, 11:55:01 AM
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What is the plan with BCH? There is absolutely 0 effort in marketing or brand building going on... on the contrary there is massive fud all over the internet against BCH and apparently nobody finds it worth providing a counter argument to any of this....

I find everything relating to BCH very peculier... massive fud from Core ( to an extend they dominate headlines in Forbes, and other major outlets), and fud is usually out of fear..... massive obstruction by anti-miners to stop the diff adjustments... which is again a sign some parties definitely see BCH as a potentially fatal thread...

Absolutely no marketing or promotion anywhere to be found... this one i find most peculier... Because if the Aug1 fork was about presenting a better alternative, the logical approach would be to show vision, do marketing and win hearts and minds of the crytpo community... But there is no effort at all to any of this...

This tells me the ''plan'' is not about ''satoshi's true vision'' per se... it is reliant on just economics... It seems BCH knows that the mining profitability is the most important key for success, and this profit advantage is inevitably being reached soon if i understand correctly.... So they are just sitting there waiting and waiting for the right moment...? Does this mean a rocket pump will be imminent once miners can earn more on BCH?


The plan for BCC/BCH is the same plan that was announced by Satoshi Nakamoto many years ago. Bitcoin Kore has derailed Satoshi's original vision severely, to the point that they forced users, miners, and node operators to adopt Segwit, a "solution" that is neither needed nor useful. The real problem was that Kore refused to remove an artifical blocksize limit which caused Bitcoin fees to skyrocket and the Bitcoin network to become very slow. I'm summarizing 2+ years of arguing here and elsewhere.

Kore is panicked because the BCC fork worked, people are mining it, and the value is fairly steady around 0.1BTC. Kore constantly trolls and FUDs about anything that is not theirs - this is actually not normal behavior in a business environment. BCC and crippled-BTC can co-exist and likely will for the next few years.

No one needs to market BCC - it's simply "Bitcoin", without a bunch of unnecessary crap added on by Kore. BTC now has become corrupted and less useful. My guess is that the Bitcoin Cash devs are busy writing code, fixing bugs, and concentrating on getting BCC adopted for payments and exchanges. I think it speaks in their favor that they didn't roll out some fancy graphics and hire a shrill bozo like Samson Mow to bleat out tweets... "Substance not Spin".

Next there will be drama with the Segwit 2x fork. Eventually Kore will launch the Lightning Network, with much fanfare and pumping of BTC exchange rates. My prediction is a lukewarm reception, other than big hype from idiots like Tone Vays.

At the end of the day, the markets will decide... is there something wrong with "relying on economics"?


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August 11, 2017, 12:39:08 PM
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Enjoy the pump 1.7 - 2.6
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August 11, 2017, 01:10:59 PM
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Price is going up and down there are still many people who want to dump their Bcc at the right price, I don't know when will this coin stabilize its price I still have mine in my wallet and will wait until it reaches $ 1000 because it's free money so I am comfortable if the price is falling but of course looking forward to get rich here.
m8, im unsure on how much you have looked  into this,
but things are not as they may seem.
Hodl your bcc and buy more if u can, the current bitcoin we know, apart from possibly be-coming centralised more than ever also...

http://www.trustnodes.com/2017/08/08/bitcoin-cash-superior-segwit2x-says-bitcoin-core-developer-blockstream-cto

While some Bitcoin Core developers, especially Blockstream employees, clearly do not like the hardfork part of segwit2x and are now more publicly coming out against it, presumably to persuade the rest of the network to not support it.

They therefore are seemingly preparing for another split between Bitcoin Core and segwit2x with the project soon to lock out segwit2x node clients.

That comes just hours after segwit was locked-in in the Bitcoin Core nodes, with live production ready use expected around the end of the month.

It is what many big blockers predicted would happen. Namely, after segwit locks in, Blockstream employees in particular, but others too, would come out against the hardfork part and strongly argue against it until miners back out.

WTF  Shocked Shocked https://medium.com/@freetrade68/announcing-bcash-8b938329eaeb
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August 11, 2017, 01:56:52 PM
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Enjoy the pump 1.7 - 2.6

Never trust a Newbie  Wink

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August 11, 2017, 05:23:03 PM
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Enjoy the pump 1.7 - 2.6

Never trust a Newbie  Wink
That's discrimination man. I've been a newbie once. Better to say "Always ignore non-sense/non-constructive post from anyone".
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August 11, 2017, 07:00:34 PM
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Enjoy the pump 1.7 - 2.6

1.7 - 2.6 of what?

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August 11, 2017, 07:15:17 PM
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Enjoy the pump 1.7 - 2.6

1.7 - 2.6 of what?



what ever it may be , the price is surging up a bit..slowly but its going up!!!
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August 11, 2017, 07:19:48 PM
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Quick Q- Does BCH have a regularly scheduled difficulty adjustment at 2016 blocks like BTC does? I understand the emergency DA with the 12hr MTP stuff, but wondered if there was a normal DA as well.

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August 11, 2017, 09:38:39 PM
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There could be 3 Bitcoins soon

1- bcc - forked from the original chain, upgraded blocks, close to orginal satnak version.
2- btc segwit - another fork but with a controversial 2nd layer, leading to possible centralised bitcoin.
3- standard btc - the one we have all known, 1mb , no segwits, with slow tx.

Which one will you choose as the real bitcoin?

im defo 100% with #1

Technically Bitcoin is a fork and Bitcoin Cash is the original blockchain.When the hard fork occurred, people had access to the same amount of coins on Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash.- NIST
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August 11, 2017, 09:47:08 PM
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There could be 3 Bitcoins soon

1- bcc - forked from the original chain, upgraded blocks, close to orginal satnak version.
2- btc segwit - another fork but with a controversial 2nd layer, leading to possible centralised bitcoin.
3- standard btc - the one we have all known, 1mb , no segwits, with slow tx.

Which one will you choose as the real bitcoin?

im defo 100% with #1

Dont you mean
1 - BCC
2 - Segwit
3 - Segwit2x
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August 11, 2017, 09:52:41 PM
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There could be 3 Bitcoins soon

1- bcc - forked from the original chain, upgraded blocks, close to orginal satnak version.
2- btc segwit - another fork but with a controversial 2nd layer, leading to possible centralised bitcoin.
3- standard btc - the one we have all known, 1mb , no segwits, with slow tx.

Which one will you choose as the real bitcoin?

im defo 100% with #1

Dont you mean
1 - BCC
2 - Segwit
3 - Segwit2x

yea, i think so, tbh at times i do get confused between segwit and segwit 2x lol..
but yea , 3 types of btc on the way.

Technically Bitcoin is a fork and Bitcoin Cash is the original blockchain.When the hard fork occurred, people had access to the same amount of coins on Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash.- NIST
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August 11, 2017, 10:27:22 PM
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There could be 3 Bitcoins soon

1- bcc - forked from the original chain, upgraded blocks, close to orginal satnak version.
2- btc segwit - another fork but with a controversial 2nd layer, leading to possible centralised bitcoin.
3- standard btc - the one we have all known, 1mb , no segwits, with slow tx.

Which one will you choose as the real bitcoin?

im defo 100% with #1

Dont you mean
1 - BCC
2 - Segwit
3 - Segwit2x

yea, i think so, tbh at times i do get confused between segwit and segwit 2x lol..
but yea , 3 types of btc on the way.

Is there any timeline on when the new split might occur?
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August 11, 2017, 11:09:58 PM
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^Not sure m8

Have you saw this?  , check out the comments
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10982  Shocked

Technically Bitcoin is a fork and Bitcoin Cash is the original blockchain.When the hard fork occurred, people had access to the same amount of coins on Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash.- NIST
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August 12, 2017, 12:28:15 AM
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bcc going over 0.1
get in asap  Wink

Technically Bitcoin is a fork and Bitcoin Cash is the original blockchain.When the hard fork occurred, people had access to the same amount of coins on Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash.- NIST
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August 12, 2017, 12:53:21 AM
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http://coinivore.com/2017/08/10/bitcoin-cash-superior-segwit2x-bitcoin-core-developer/
Gregory Maxwell, a Bitcoin Core developer, and Blockstream’s CTO, publicly stated on Reddit that the alternative to Bitcoin born on August 1st, Bitcoin Cash, is superior to Segwit2x.

“Bcash at least has replay protection and HF safe headers now (though it didn’t until it hit its difficulty adjustment rule). It is superior to S2X. It also doesn’t seek to force itself on anyone who doesn’t want it,” Maxwell said.

*It’s very interesting to see a Bitcoin Core developer state that BTC is essentially inferior to its newly split counter part Bcash which is supposed to fix most of the problems developers have with the current legacy BTC.

Could we witness a market reversal with BTC dropping in value as Bcash shoots up in value if Segwit2x fails? What do you think?




https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/08/08/bitcoin_core_fork_cryptocurrency/
For fork's sake! Bitcoin Core braces for another cryptocurrency split
BTC client software set to reject SegWit2x nodes



https://www.coindesk.com/full-steam-ahead-segwit2x-reconfirm-bitcoin-hard-fork-plan/
While the official statement is still being reviewed by the open-source group, it has achieved "general approval" from Segwit2x members, according to Bloq founder and Segwit2x developer Jeff Garzik.

As such, the confirmation is emerging as one of the first signs that bitcoin could be headed for more turbulent times ahead.
Since many bitcoin users don't support the change (at least not so quickly), the fork could lead to another split of the bitcoin network and the creation of another bitcoin cryptocurrency. Bitcoin cash, which split from the bitcoin blockchain last week, has already attracted criticisms for creating brand confusion, though its price (currently $318) has held steadier than some expected.



The way i see it now...bcc is pure bitcoin, no 2nd layer , no segwit clinging on...bcc improves bitcoin far more consist with the view of the dev..Mr Satoshi Nakamoto
The bitcoin btc is now stuck as segwit coin.

http://www.trustnodes.com/2017/07/23/bitcoin-cash-splitting-segwit
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So big blockers are rejecting segwit. Chain-split hard-forking to Bitcoin Cash, which continues the soft-limit and hard-limit approach laid down by Nakamoto and followed by the bitcoin network for much of its existence.

Technically Bitcoin is a fork and Bitcoin Cash is the original blockchain.When the hard fork occurred, people had access to the same amount of coins on Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash.- NIST
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August 12, 2017, 01:11:01 AM
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Everyone that sold off their bcc for "free money"..might be in for a shock of their life, when they realise they sold the REAL BITCOIN for under $300.
Theres still time, buy em back.

As for those that get their coins from polo,coinbase and other places....i seriously suggest you research this alot before selling your bcc.

Technically Bitcoin is a fork and Bitcoin Cash is the original blockchain.When the hard fork occurred, people had access to the same amount of coins on Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash.- NIST
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