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Author Topic: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees  (Read 703566 times)
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August 19, 2017, 07:05:45 PM
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While this pump has been interesting, the simple fact is that bitcoin cash will simply be just another alt coin until it gains the significant adoption by outside parties that bitcoin has.

I had thought that this would be its big advantage - adoption - if you already have the software and systems for using bitcoin, you already have the systems for using bitcoin cash.  However, as this article points out, that's not the case, more was changed than just the block size which made it tougher for trezor to support bitcoin cash than initially thought.

While I might keep some bitcoin cash in case I'm wrong, unless adoption picks up, this coin will just be another alt coin, similar maybe to litecoin, not worthless, but no big deal as coins with real innovation come along.


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August 19, 2017, 07:15:57 PM
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Cute , guess you lost money.

Don't blame me because you are dim witted.
feel free to fuck off

Bitcoin Cash 24 hour Trading Volume is $3,029,520,000    higher than old 1mb Bitcoin $2,894,220,000 , at the time of this post.

╥Aztek

You say some interesting things.
But for those of us who are not very technical at all, could you or (anyone) kindly do a point by point comparison of the technologies?

On one hand what does BTC have and on the other side what does BCC have.

This would take me forever to do so I would understand if no one has the time.

Or maybe someone either already knows or it has been done and a link can be posted.

Good day.

I can't quite remember off the top of my head somebody can get more technical.

From what I understood is that BCC remains truer to the BTC before the switch than the BTC now does to the BTC before August 1st.
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August 19, 2017, 07:24:21 PM
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Then we are back where it started and all your eggs are in one basket. If BCH has a catastrophic flaw that becomes exposed after BCS 'withers and dies' then we are all fucked and the cryptocurrency world comes tumbling down. It isn't a popular view, but I am in favor of multiple successful branches of Bitcoin.

Hardly ,
I choose Bitcoin Cash for the Bitcoin winner, but I still hold litecoin and other alts that hold potential in a few years to replace Cash.
But Bitcoin Cash will be the dominate for years to come.
Counterfeit offchain transactions by LN segwitcoin is no different from using a bank.
And if I wanted a bank,  I just use the banks. But Banks like LN can seize your funds whenever they please , to truly own something it has to be onchain.
Offchain the other entity owns it and you just pray they give it back when you need it.


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Peace Out , I leave you to the regularly scheduled Old Paid Bitcoin Trolls to start their fudding back up. Not that it will matter.

Don't be sad.This is a video for you  Grin
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August 19, 2017, 07:24:38 PM
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Cute , guess you lost money.

Don't blame me because you are dim witted.
feel free to fuck off

Bitcoin Cash 24 hour Trading Volume is $3,029,520,000    higher than old 1mb Bitcoin $2,894,220,000 , at the time of this post.

╥Aztek

You say some interesting things.
But for those of us who are not very technical at all, could you or (anyone) kindly do a point by point comparison of the technologies?

On one hand what does BTC have and on the other side what does BCC have.

This would take me forever to do so I would understand if no one has the time.

Or maybe someone either already knows or it has been done and a link can be posted.

Good day.

I can't quite remember off the top of my head somebody can get more technical.

From what I understood is that BCC remains truer to the BTC before the switch than the BTC now does to the BTC before August 1st.

No, one of them is Bitcoin and one is not
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August 19, 2017, 07:26:10 PM
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Then we are back where it started and all your eggs are in one basket. If BCH has a catastrophic flaw that becomes exposed after BCS 'withers and dies' then we are all fucked and the cryptocurrency world comes tumbling down. It isn't a popular view, but I am in favor of multiple successful branches of Bitcoin.

Hardly ,
I choose Bitcoin Cash for the Bitcoin winner, but I still hold litecoin and other alts that hold potential in a few years to replace Cash.
But Bitcoin Cash will be the dominate for years to come.
Counterfeit offchain transactions by LN segwitcoin is no different from using a bank.
And if I wanted a bank,  I just use the banks. But Banks like LN can seize your funds whenever they please , to truly own something it has to be onchain.
Offchain the other entity owns it and you just pray they give it back when you need it.


╥Aztek


Peace Out , I leave you to the regularly scheduled Old Paid Bitcoin Trolls to start their fudding back up. Not that it will matter.

Don't be sad.This is a video for you  Grin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gfntBEI3Aw

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August 19, 2017, 07:37:59 PM
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I can't quite remember off the top of my head somebody can get more technical.

From what I understood is that BCC remains truer to the BTC before the switch than the BTC now does to the BTC before August 1st.

wow. you're a persuasive guy.

bitcoin has the best developers, the most acceptance, blocks which actually arrive on time rather than being gamed, and its mining and development isn't 100% controlled by one entity.

bcash does not.
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August 19, 2017, 07:39:40 PM
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I can't quite remember off the top of my head somebody can get more technical.

From what I understood is that BCC remains truer to the BTC before the switch than the BTC now does to the BTC before August 1st.

Satoshi would have preferred the community come to a consensus rather than create contentious hardforks. Oh well, he also made his program open sourced, and therefore permissionless. Therefore, let these rebels enjoy their coup.  Kiss
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Roger Ver on the Economic Code of Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash (August 2017)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R8ckM-TDHI
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August 19, 2017, 08:37:56 PM
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Hes an ass and clearly thinks hes superior to everyone so full of himself

on another note the last 10 mined blocks roundup courtesy of https://goo.gl/xLPsQn

As you can see its all the same miner/payout address but keep saying its decentralised


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479735	17SMJT44JbqtGMD9g1M6cZsmqD5b6Y9AbY
479734 17SMJT44JbqtGMD9g1M6cZsmqD5b6Y9AbY
479733 17SMJT44JbqtGMD9g1M6cZsmqD5b6Y9AbY
479732 17SMJT44JbqtGMD9g1M6cZsmqD5b6Y9AbY
479731 17SMJT44JbqtGMD9g1M6cZsmqD5b6Y9AbY
479730 17SMJT44JbqtGMD9g1M6cZsmqD5b6Y9AbY
479729 17SMJT44JbqtGMD9g1M6cZsmqD5b6Y9AbY
479728 17SMJT44JbqtGMD9g1M6cZsmqD5b6Y9AbY
479727 17SMJT44JbqtGMD9g1M6cZsmqD5b6Y9AbY
479726 17SMJT44JbqtGMD9g1M6cZsmqD5b6Y9AbY
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August 19, 2017, 08:41:44 PM
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no one else can be get any blocks because 1 miner owns 97% of the hash power and they are keeping their pool private
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August 19, 2017, 08:43:07 PM
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no one else can be get any blocks because 1 miner owns 97% of the hash power and they are keeping their pool private

And every BCH is still sat in the wallet waiting to be cashed out

http://blockdozer.com/insight/address/17SMJT44JbqtGMD9g1M6cZsmqD5b6Y9AbY
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August 19, 2017, 08:43:32 PM
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no one else can be get any blocks because 1 miner owns 97% of the hash power and they are keeping their pool private

Now mining bitcoin cash is more profitable so other miners will come and private pool miner hash % will down. I heard other pool also thinking to divert their hash power to bitcoin cash.
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August 19, 2017, 08:44:01 PM
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no one else can be get any blocks because 1 miner owns 97% of the hash power and they are keeping their pool private

they will open it up when they've fiddled with the difficulty enough to attract others and supported the price long enough to fool them into signing up.

i wonder who it could be? boy, that's a big mystery.
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August 19, 2017, 08:47:50 PM
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Well, we've seen lots of weird stuff in the alt market, but after last night and this morning, I think this is the weirdest of all.
Although I'm with the BTC side (segwit-coin, lol), I must admit that the BCH fanboys have some valid arguments.
BCH is indeed closer to the original version of bitcoin. Segwit is indeed a major modification.


I still don't believe that we'll see the flippening or parity, but this unstoppable rally is awesome.

BTW, Mr. Pumperitis, I'm sorry for being ironic and laughed at you, now I see you had a point...
I'm not saying you're totally right, but some things you said are true.


Now let's all enjoy the rest of the rally, and see where it stops...  Grin


No need to be sorry bro, im just glad you looked into it a bit deeper and came to your own conclusion  Smiley
A very honest post imo, and i respect that alot.
Gd luck and welcome to the family  Kiss

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August 19, 2017, 08:50:11 PM
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no one else can be get any blocks because 1 miner owns 97% of the hash power and they are keeping their pool private

they will open it up when they've fiddled with the difficulty enough to attract others and supported the price long enough to fool them into signing up.

i wonder who it could be? boy, that's a big mystery.

Well 1Mn8mkxYm6GGcdUH5Ts3XJN4Ujz4CJerbW was the dominant miner from the very start and has stopped mining since block 479650 but then this other big miner started at block 479653 and has taken its place ? I suspect they just changed there address there is no other explanation for the largest miner to just disapear and a new one comes and takes its place

Thats 12 blocks in a row now for miner 17SMJT44JbqtGMD9g1M6cZsmqD5b6Y9AbY
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August 19, 2017, 08:59:12 PM
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no one else can be get any blocks because 1 miner owns 97% of the hash power and they are keeping their pool private

they will open it up when they've fiddled with the difficulty enough to attract others and supported the price long enough to fool them into signing up.

i wonder who it could be? boy, that's a big mystery.

Well 1Mn8mkxYm6GGcdUH5Ts3XJN4Ujz4CJerbW was the dominant miner from the very start and has stopped mining since block 479650 but then this other big miner started at block 479653 and has taken its place ? I suspect they just changed there address there is no other explanation for the largest miner to just disapear and a new one comes and takes its place

Thats 12 blocks in a row now for miner 17SMJT44JbqtGMD9g1M6cZsmqD5b6Y9AbY


Hi guys. Am not very technically literate so plz humour a noob question from me.
I just found out a freind of mine has been holding 19 bitcoins since 2016.

Is it too late for her to get BCH now?

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August 19, 2017, 09:00:22 PM
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that qoute was an error on my part.
Thanks.

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Hi guys. Am not very technically literate so plz humour a noob question from me.
I just found out a freind of mine has been holding 19 bitcoins since 2016.

Is it too late for her to get BCH now?


No they are still there and will be forever until moved there is no time limit
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August 19, 2017, 09:09:17 PM
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Hi guys. Am not very technically literate so plz humour a noob question from me.
I just found out a freind of mine has been holding 19 bitcoins since 2016.

Is it too late for her to get BCH now?


No they are still there and will be forever until moved there is no time limit

Thanks a lot tekmobile for reply.
Can you plz post what  instructions my friend would need to follow in order to retreive and use the BCH.

*noob friendly* instructions please.
Thanks a million in advance.

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August 19, 2017, 09:24:30 PM
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If BCH become ''new Bitcoin'' it would be a step backward right now. It's just another altcoin and it's more centralized than decentralized with miner who have 97% hash power. And it's not even the best ''new Bitcoin''... You also have BTX which is technically better than BCH... Bitcoin will always be king and no one will take over.
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