BiblePay - New Coin Launch - Official Thread

[emdes]

WTF?!

Yeah, WTF 

[616westwarmoth]

So we have to run multiple daemons to get better rewards (HPS2)? It seems the pool reward algorithm is wrong? All the shares are equal no matter the difficulty of the share is?

One 10-CPU machine with 1 miner gives 29k HPS2.
One 10-CPU machine with 10 miners gives 120k HPS2.

29k to 120k. it is 4 times reward.
This will let us create many many workers in the pool.

Btw, you can consolidate your workers so we dont have massive long list of miners in the leaderboard- once you know your avg HPS2, you can point two or more daemons at one workerid and should see the increased HPS2 now.  The HPS itself will be wrong, but HPS2 should rise.

Ah, I've only looked at HPS when I tested that and I guess I didn't give enough time for HPS2 to rise.

But does this mean I can point all of my separate machines to just one workerid, or does that apply only to the nodes on the same machine?

I've not done it personally, but you can point multiple machines at one workerID.  It will show only one of their "reported" HPS but the HPS2 will be the actual aggregate.  Would be interesting to test out if a singular workerID with multiple machines pointed to it is worse than multiple workerIDs with multiple machines.

[slovakia]

im tested 2 machines with 1 miner= result is same= i came back with ghost miners......1shit 1-2core for 20-40€ do better result like ryzens,xeons etc hard brute CPUs

all mining is very weird

[warbird023]

Out of curiosity while I compile.. I had a question. Is the command below assigning the password = pwd to BBP root just so it can write in and out without issue?

BP_ROOT=$(pwd)

No, BP_ROOT is not the root account, its the BiblePay Root Directory argument, and pwd is not the password, but the 'current working compile directory'.  Its needed to make BerkleyDb4.8 work in linux.  The reason we cant go to 5.1+ is we are staying with Bitcoin compatibility for the wallet format.

Wow.. i was way off! LOL. thank you for the explanation. Well along those lines, im still tech. challenged. I have installed the linux miner on 4 computers.
Using the instructions on Reddit, line for line.. 2 of them worked and 2 of them give me this error when trying to launch the GUI

m4tsby@LinuxLiteOpterons:~/biblepay$ cd src
m4tsby@LinuxLiteOpterons:~/biblepay/src$ cd qt
m4tsby@LinuxLiteOpterons:~/biblepay/src/qt$ ./biblepay-qt
bash: ./biblepay-qt: No such file or directory

How that can be with all distros being basically the same, all deb based?

These instructions were followed - Note: GUI will be built automatically only if you meet the requirements for qt library, i.e. make sure you ran this line before compiling:

sudo apt-get install libqt5gui5 libqt5core5a libqt5dbus5 qttools5-dev qttools5-dev-tools libprotobuf-dev protobuf-compiler

Hi m4tsby,

You probably haven't had met the requirements for building GUI. Run the apt-get line again:

sudo apt-get install libqt5gui5 libqt5core5a libqt5dbus5 qttools5-dev qttools5-dev-tools libprotobuf-dev protobuf-compiler

And make sure that you have no errors in the output. You probably will have some - when you resolve them and have successfully installed these libraries just rebuild the biblepay.

If you have additional problems, we should probably move this discussion to reddit (linux install thread) in order not to clutter this forum here.

I am also having the same issues as listed above, have tried to rebuild to no avail.

I am also having an issue with pool mining, All was running fine, no changes made yet now it says "poolmining:false"??

Are you shure that the List of needed Packages is complete?
I can build the biblepayd but not the qt binary in the Actual Version.
All mentioned Packages are installed on the System.

The Build of the qt Version 1.0.3.7 has been possible on the same System.

I think that some packages are missing from the Install guide and whatever is missing comes natively installed with larger distros. The guide instructions installed fine with Mint, Ubuntu 14, Xubuntu, but will not compile the GUI on Linux Lite, or Lubuntu.  This is my thought at least but I agree Ill take this offline to the Reddit post as to not add noise to the thread. Slack channel will be nice for support as well.  Thanks All 

Found it. On my Debian 8 System, installing the Package libqt5webkit5-dev solves my Problem.

[nananaminer]

Created a bash script to automatically install Biblepay daemon on linux, configure it and start mining in the pool using @togoshige's reddit guide.

All instructions included in the script, feel free to fork/edit it for your needs.

https://gist.github.com/anonymous/d1c1d35e3c8f67f5fb2e204479fa5c6b

Basic usage: 1. Download script, 2. sudo chmod +x install_biblepay.sh 3. ./install_biblepay.sh {number of mining threads} {pool worker name}

@bible_pay You can add the script to the repo or the wiki under installation guides if you would like.

Cheers

[seasonw]

Solo mining
One 10-CPU machine with 1 miner gives 52k HPS.
One 10-CPU machine with 10 miners gives 60k HPS.
Ten 1-CPU machines with 1 miner each give 100k HPS.

Pool mining
One 10-CPU machine with 1 miner gives 29k HPS2.
One 10-CPU machine with 10 miners gives 120k HPS2.
Ten 1-CPU machines with 1 miner each give 170k HPS2.

Good testing results, thanks for sharing @inblue. I have one question:

The next test I did was running 10 daemons on 10 separate 1-CPU machines (the CPU is the same as in the 10-CPU machine) and also genproclimit 2 as before.

So, the 1-CPU machine is same CPU as you used to test on 10-CPU? Xeon Skylake?

[nsummy]

I'm sure this has been asked but I can't find the info anywhere.  What is the difference between hps and hps2 on the pool?  I know this is still kind of in beta, but that pool website can't possibly be anymore clunky and non-intuitive!

[slovakia]

description
10-CPU  ... 1CPU with 10cores    .... all this is mishmash where anybody doesnt know basic

nsmummy for mining isnt important HPS 1 but HPS2 that's how it looks

[inblue]

Solo mining
One 10-CPU machine with 1 miner gives 52k HPS.
One 10-CPU machine with 10 miners gives 60k HPS.
Ten 1-CPU machines with 1 miner each give 100k HPS.

Pool mining
One 10-CPU machine with 1 miner gives 29k HPS2.
One 10-CPU machine with 10 miners gives 120k HPS2.
Ten 1-CPU machines with 1 miner each give 170k HPS2.

Good testing results, thanks for sharing @inblue. I have one question:

The next test I did was running 10 daemons on 10 separate 1-CPU machines (the CPU is the same as in the 10-CPU machine) and also genproclimit 2 as before.

So, the 1-CPU machine is same CPU as you used to test on 10-CPU? Xeon Skylake?

Of course CPU is the same, otherwise what kind of a test would that be? I thought that was clear in the parentheses in that sentence you quoted.

[pinball_wizard]

Interesting coin...so you can only cpu mine it??

[bible_pay]

I'm sure this has been asked but I can't find the info anywhere.  What is the difference between hps and hps2 on the pool?  I know this is still kind of in beta, but that pool website can't possibly be anymore clunky and non-intuitive!

From a technical perspective, its not clunky (as its smooth as silk, with ajax callbacks), so thats false.

From the non-intuitive perspective, its actually that you dont know how to use it yet - its not non-intuitive.

Non intuitive is if you are trying to write a letter and the option is hidden, but with the pool, everything is available from the left menu and labeled. 

Maybe jealousy is the word?  Do you want to port it to another coin?

[bible_pay]

Interesting coin...so you can only cpu mine it??

Yes, and if anyone ever finds a way to run it in a GPU or an ASIC, let us know, as our new slack team will add a guard around the miner and start using mining keypairs that expire hourly.  We will implement the feature that makes Biblepay CPU only permanently.

[nsummy]

I'm sure this has been asked but I can't find the info anywhere.  What is the difference between hps and hps2 on the pool?  I know this is still kind of in beta, but that pool website can't possibly be anymore clunky and non-intuitive!

From a technical perspective, its not clunky (as its smooth as silk, with ajax callbacks), so thats false.

From the non-intuitive perspective, its actually that you dont know how to use it yet - its not non-intuitive.

Non intuitive is if you are trying to write a letter and the option is hidden, but with the pool, everything is available from the left menu and labeled. 

Maybe jealousy is the word?  Do you want to port it to another coin?

LOL look, I didn't mean to offend you, but saying "its actually that you don't know how to use it yet" proves my point.  Lets start with the basic fact that the Help Guide link doesn't work which is the one place I would expect to learn how to use the site.  The pool doesn't explain the difference between hps1 and hps2, and why there is a mismatch.  The letter writing thing to the orphans is a mystery as to what it is exactly.  I could keep going but I think it should be obvious.  Either way I didn't create the post to ridicule a website, I honestly just wanted to know what the hps2 was.

[Crypto-in-tha-blood]

WTF?!

Yeah, WTF 

Kind of my thoughts as well when I saw this.  I mean every aspect of the world has to be exploited in crypto, so why not religion too. 

[616westwarmoth]

Kind of my thoughts as well when I saw this.  I mean every aspect of the world has to be exploited in crypto, so why not religion too. 

The difference between exploitation (JESUS token/coin) and this is night and day.  This coin has charity in mind.  It has ZERO pre-mine.  ZERO dev reward.  It is a labor of love, and is supporting nearly 100 orphans through Compassion.com by it's being.  Everyone is entitled to their own opinions but to say this exploits religion shows your bias or ignorance.

[bible_pay]

I'm sure this has been asked but I can't find the info anywhere.  What is the difference between hps and hps2 on the pool?  I know this is still kind of in beta, but that pool website can't possibly be anymore clunky and non-intuitive!

From a technical perspective, its not clunky (as its smooth as silk, with ajax callbacks), so thats false.

From the non-intuitive perspective, its actually that you dont know how to use it yet - its not non-intuitive.

Non intuitive is if you are trying to write a letter and the option is hidden, but with the pool, everything is available from the left menu and labeled. 

Maybe jealousy is the word?  Do you want to port it to another coin?

LOL look, I didn't mean to offend you, but saying "its actually that you don't know how to use it yet" proves my point.  Lets start with the basic fact that the Help Guide link doesn't work which is the one place I would expect to learn how to use the site.  The pool doesn't explain the difference between hps1 and hps2, and why there is a mismatch.  The letter writing thing to the orphans is a mystery as to what it is exactly.  I could keep going but I think it should be obvious.  Either way I didn't create the post to ridicule a website, I honestly just wanted to know what the hps2 was.

Thanks for the input.

We will try to improve the pool to accomodate "newbies".  I apologize for offending you.

Does anyone want to volunteer to write a Help guide?  We can link to it from the Help | Help menu.

Have a nice day.

[slovakia]

bible_pay can you explain what HPS is important for mining?  1st or 2nd?

[616westwarmoth]

bible_pay can you explain what HPS is important for mining?  1st or 2nd?

HPS is the theory on your computer's Hash Per Second.   HPS2 is the effective hash rate you are achieving based on the number of shares you find.

[tryyouman]

Please let question.

The schedule is here: (205 blocks per day, 7 minute block targets):

Code:

        // Yearly decline of production by ~10% per year, projected ~14.54 Billion coins max by year 2050+.

	// Year:  2017, Subsidy: 20000, Emission: 1496500000, Grand Total: 1 496 500 000
	// Year:  2018, Subsidy: 18000, Emission: 1346850000, Grand Total: 2 843 350 000
	// Year:  2019, Subsidy: 16200, Emission: 1212165000, Grand Total: 4 055 515 000
	// Year:  2020, Subsidy: 14580, Emission: 1090948500, Grand Total: 5 146 463 500
	// Year:  2021, Subsidy: 13122, Emission: 981853650,  Grand Total: 6 128 317 150
	// Year:  2025, Subsidy: 8609,  Emission: 644194179,  Grand Total: 9 167 252 382
	// Year:  2030, Subsidy: 5083,  Emission: 380390221,  Grand Total: 11 541 488 001
	// Year:  2035, Subsidy: 3001,  Emission: 224616621,  Grand Total: 12 943 450 406
	// Year:  2040, Subsidy: 1772,  Emission: 132633868,  Grand Total: 13 771 295 175
	// Year:  2045, Subsidy: 1046,  Emission: 78318973,   Grand Total: 14 260 129 248
	// Year:  2050, Subsidy: 618,   Emission: 46246570,   Grand Total: 14 548 780 867

Is the schedule out of the current blocks?

The block reward breakdown is as follows:

100 Reward (example)
10 : Charity (sponsoring orphans, 100% goes to the orphans)
10 : MasterNode network (goes live at Christmas of 2017 - allows for rewards for running full sanctuary nodes, allows the coin to become a Charitable DAO organization, fully running by the community itself)
(Note this is 0 for the first 40000 blocks)
80 : Block Subsidy to the Node who mined the block using POB

Is MasterNode started from the 40000 blocks? When is it?

[macko20]

http://pasteboard.co/GMOVrAq.jpg

Is something wrong on the pool, or something change after 10k block. Miners raports only 1-2 shares and reset to 0.